Hope not.....

[johnno]

Has 'The Weapon' or this Stephen Danks character had any association with the Swans in the past?

Hope not!!!

[SydAFLFan]

Has 'The Weapon' or this Stephen Danks character had any association with the Swans in the past?

Hope not!!!

Not aware of any connection but one Sydney NRL club can not say the same thing.


Sacked Essendon sports scientist worked for NRL premiers
| Herald Sun

[SydAFLFan]

Also, found this on the Herald Sun website from a 2011 interview, "IT'S all overseen by Robinson, who lived in Texas in the mid-1990s as a steer wrestler and rodeo clown and made it as far as the World Steer Wrestling Association titles in Oklahoma. After studying at Texas Tech he returned home to take a position at the then-Sydney City Roosters, NSW Institute of Sport and Manly Sea Eagles before joining the Cats in late 2006. Robinson said he left Geelong on good terms in 2010, but quit the Suns after only 12 months for family reasons and the chance to work at a powerhouse of the AFL

Weapon of mass destruction - high-performance guru Dean Robinson | Herald Sun

[Triple B]

...lived in Texas in the mid-1990s as a steer wrestler and rodeo clown.....

...and now he's just a clown.

[Primmy]

...and now he's just a clown.

well we just don't know yet. The line may have been crossed, or its on the border, or...... however its another area the kids have to be aware of. Just because someone in authority says take this, you just HAVE to ask questions. I feel sorry for the kids if they have been compromised. Straight from school, and doing what you are told, it becomes ingrained. It is sometimes hard for the kids in particular to become mentally independent. I spent at least two years after I left school feeling guilty that I wasn't doing homework!

[Go Swannies]

well we just don't know yet. The line may have been crossed, or its on the border, or...... however its another area the kids have to be aware of. Just because someone in authority says take this, you just HAVE to ask questions. I feel sorry for the kids if they have been compromised. Straight from school, and doing what you are told, it becomes ingrained. It is sometimes hard for the kids in particular to become mentally independent. I spent at least two years after I left school feeling guilty that I wasn't doing homework!

Were you talking about Tippett's Crows contract as you wrote this? It could well apply there, too.

[Ludwig]

So many people close to football, journos, ex-players, doctors etc., are making sounds that this PED is going to be a really big thing. I cannot imagine that it's going away soon. This story is blowing up before our very eyes. 3 VFL players banned for drug use. Needles. The ABC reporting some specifics on the drugs in question, and saying that 12 players were involved (where do they get this sort of number from.) Every journo is jumping on the story from a different angle.

Like the Tippett story, as it turned out, where there's smoke, there's fire. For the 3 big wigs at Essendon to have come forward and do that press conference doesn't bode well.

Adelaide saying that they would never be ones to cheat the system made me laugh. See link:

Cookies must be enabled | Herald Sun

I hope for the sake of AFL that this is very limited and confined just to a few players at Essendon. I would hate to have what is looking like a very fruitful period for the Swans to be overshadowed by the drug stigma.

[R-1]

It's not limited or confined.

The Australian Crime Commission with some explosive but legally-constrained statements in their report today.

The ACC has identified specific high-performance staff, sports scientists and coaches within some codes who have condoned and/or orchestrated the administration of prohibited substances, and substances not yet approved for human consumption, to players.

Multiple players across some sporting codes and specific clubs within those codes are suspected of currently using or having previously used peptides, which could constitute an anti-doping rule violation. The level of suspected use of peptides varies between some sporting codes, however officials from a club have been identified as administering, via injections and intravenous drips, a variety of substances, possibly including peptides. Moreover, the substances were administered at levels which were possibly in breach of WADA anti-doping rules.

Widespread use of peptides has been identified, or is suspected by the ACC, in a number of professional sporting codes in Australia. Although the use of peptides appears to be more widespread in some major codes, individuals from a number of other sports are also suspected of using peptides.

Multiple players (in one code) from a number of clubs are suspected of currently using or having previously used peptides, which could constitute an anti-doping rule violation.

Some players have also been identified as sourcing peptides for personal use. An instance of team-based doping, orchestrated by some club officials and coaching staff, has also been identified.

Apart from the peptide?s anabolic effects, it has been found that injured elite athletes, particularly players from one sporting code, have been using peptides to assist in rehabilitating soft tissue injuries.

I hope to god we're clean but we shouldn't assume so, or that none of our players have independently acquired things they shouldn't have.

[Swansongster]

It's not limited or confined.

The Australian Crime Commission with some explosive but legally-constrained statements in their report today.








I hope to god we're clean but we shouldn't assume so, or that none of our players have independently acquired things they shouldn't have.

This drugs in sport conflagration is omenous. Methinks the Bombers are in big strife (which would explain their front-foot press conference - classic PR damage control). I'd like to see a statement from our club, reassuring us that we are clean, co-operative, pro-active and open to audit/more testing.

[Captain]

Funny that no one has actually tested positive though!

[R-1]

This current crop of substances is very very difficult to test for. Hardly surprising that with no specific evidence the AFL hasn't gone to the extent that something like cycling has done.

The difficulty of testing is why anti doping bodies have gone to a more investigative based approach.

[R-1]

One thing which gives me heart from a Swans perspective is we don't seem to have gone into a lot of the new fancy sports science stuff. We don't do altitude camps or stuff like that, for example.

[Swansongster]

Funny that no one has actually tested positive though!

Agreed. The Lance Armstrong methodology. Something about under carpets and sweeping.

[aardvark]

One thing which gives me heart from a Swans perspective is we don't seem to have gone into a lot of the new fancy sports science stuff. We don't do altitude camps or stuff like that, for example.

Yep... because you can't inject teamwork and desire.

[Primmy]

I am sorry I started the other thread, waiting for the other shoe to drop now.

However I can imagine couple of the boys being desperate enough. But I cannot see the management being involved. Just cannot. Stuey 1? Stuey 2? etc etc..... n.o.