Changes for round 7 v hawks - grand final rematch!

[Gezball]

In: Morton (not as sub!!)
Out: maybe Armstrong.. Lamb deserves to stay..

[Melbourne_Blood]

Changes for round 7 v hawks - grand final rematch!

Bradley Hill is a real danger man, Smith should get the job but he is lightning quick, reminds me of Jetta. No change for me unless Shaw is fit.

[Swansongster]

Will Shaw be back? You would think he is automatic if available.

I too would love to see Jed get a 2nd go on the big stage. I also agree that Morton would bring ghosts and variety.

[Southern Swan15]

Morton would be a good inclusion, not sure who comes out though, morton has done the job before and his grand final efforts will always be remembered.

[Nico]

No change.

[Gezball]

Morton kicked 5 in the reserves against a very good team (Lions reserves are reigning NEAFL premiers) before being benched at three quarter time to be a seniors emergency. I like Armstrong but I think Morton would give the team more.

I probably disagree w Shaw being rushed in if fit. He's a good player but he's been out for a while, I'd have him play a full game in the reserves first.

[ShockOfHair]

If Shaw isn't match fit he'd be a sensational sub.

Otherwise I can't see any changes. Morton is playing well but you wouldn't play him ahead of Parker.

[longmile]

Shaw for Armstrong.
Doubt they'd change much else to a winning team. Would keep Jed as sub and would love to somehow find room for Morton too. Love to see him get a run against Hawthorne again

[The_Jam]

If Shaw isn't match fit he'd be a sensational sub.

Otherwise I can't see any changes. Morton is playing well but you wouldn't play him ahead of Parker.

In regard to Shaw, while I'm not sure it will happen, I reckon you're right.

[ernie koala]

In - Shaw (as sub)

Out - Armstrong...No good under pressure, and the pressure will be on.

Lamb to get get a full game please.

[swanspant12]

Shawy for Army if fit. Otherwise: No Change.

[DamY]

Changes for round 7 v hawks - grand final rematch!

I think Armstrong was pretty good last week, albeit against lesser opposition but he is definitely improving, I reckon Shaw will have to have a run in the twos for match fitness.

Morton from all reports is surely banging on the door for seniors selection.

I hope Lamb stays in and hopefully a full game.

Taking TA out will mean we only have 6 proper defenders.. Hrm.

Looks like no change from me

[Ruck'n'Roll]

If Shaw isn't match fit he'd be a sensational sub.

+2

Last year there was a discussion of our best structure,
At the time I posited a 7/10/5 structure. In part as it seemed more meaningful to me than the traditional 6 rows of 3 and 4 reserves thing.

Anyway the Swans team that won last years flag had such a structure. I thought I'd look at last weeks team in the light of that structure.

2012 GF Team /Changes
7 Defenders
3 Offensive Backs: Mattner, Shaw/Armstrong, Mal.
1 Defensive Back: Smith.
3 tall backs: Ted, Grundy, AJ/Rampe.
10 Mids
5 Inside Mids: Bolton, O'Keefe, Kennedy, Parker, Hanners.
4 Outside Mids: Goodes, Jetta, McVeigh, Jack.
1 Tagger/Defensive Forward: Bird & Benny
5 Forwards
2 Ruckmen: Pike, Mummy.
2 Tall Forwards: Reid, LRT Out.
1 Offensive forward: Morton/Lamb

Last weeks team ad differed in structure as well as personnel.
We played 7 defenders, and while Rampe is clearly improving, I think him closer in physique and style to Marty Mattner than AJ.
So we are less able to compete in the air down back.
We also played 11 Mids and only 4 forwards, so McGlynn has come in for LRT.
Again we have lost some height in this swap, and given LRT's ability down back we could well be exposed by a tall forward line.

I wonder whether the Hawks will consider bring Bailey back in, in part to combat Pike/Mummy but also to confront our defence with Franklin, Roughhead, Gunstan and Hale?

[Melbournehammer]

+2

Last year there was a discussion of our best structure,
At the time I posited a 7/10/5 structure. In part as it seemed more meaningful to me than the traditional 6 rows of 3 and 4 reserves thing.

Anyway the Swans team that won last years flag had such a structure. I thought I'd look at last weeks team in the light of that structure.

2012 GF Team /Changes
7 Defenders
3 Offensive Backs: Mattner, Shaw/Armstrong, Mal.
1 Defensive Back: Smith.
3 tall backs: Ted, Grundy, AJ/Rampe.
10 Mids
5 Inside Mids: Bolton, O'Keefe, Kennedy, Parker, Hanners.
4 Outside Mids: Goodes, Jetta, McVeigh, Jack.
1 Tagger/Defensive Forward: Bird & Benny
5 Forwards
2 Ruckmen: Pike, Mummy.
2 Tall Forwards: Reid, LRT Out.
1 Offensive forward: Morton/Lamb

Last weeks team ad differed in structure as well as personnel.
We played 7 defenders, and while Rampe is clearly improving, I think him closer in physique and style to Marty Mattner than AJ.
So we are less able to compete in the air down back.
We also played 11 Mids and only 4 forwards, so McGlynn has come in for LRT.
Again we have lost some height in this swap, and given LRT's ability down back we could well be exposed by a tall forward line.

I wonder whether the Hawks will consider bring Bailey back in, in part to combat Pike/Mummy but also to confront our defence with Franklin, Roughhead, Gunstan and Hale?

This is a pretty good summary of our side.

However I think that the changes to the laws which have occurred in the off season mean that we are an outside midfielder down. I think this is particularly the case when you look at the names you have supplied. Goodes is no longer playing midfield and I think Jude is actually playing more or less permanently as a forward. The cats beat us with pace to the contest from a contest in the midfield/half forward to our half back - their runners - motlop, hunt, christensen were a bit too quick for us. we have a group of largely one paced high endurance players who go forwards and backwards well but arent great peed wise. The changes to the rules encouraging faster ball ups and boundary throws means that the ball when it clears, clears much more quickly and we could do with an extra runner. Trouble is I don't know where it comes from.

I think we just have to play morton. He is a goal kicker and we are a side which lacks them. Our forward line just looks a little light on for goal kickers.

I actually think marty and rampe will both do a reasonable job on a gunston but if the hawks did play hale, roughhead and buddy all forward we would be in trouble. Further if Lake actually regained his old form and went forward I can't see mummy or pyke beating him 1-1. I can't really see what else there is other than play a bit smaller and hope that the ball comes in in a way which encourages packs.

Roosy put it very well on the couch last night - if the ball is out in front of teddy and buddy, or over their heads (ala semi final 2012) buddy wins. but if it is a contest teddy does, and our half backs clear well.

In: Shaw, Morton
Out: Armstrong, Lamb

I am pleased that we are getting a bit of depth. I think armstrong can play at this level. He is not as good as our first choice backs but can do a job. Lamb, I reckon could be a week or two away from being a player in our 22, but if he is to displace anyone its probably jude - an inside midfielder who can play hff. but jude is playing some very good footy at the moment so I'd be reluctant to change that at the moment. But he deserves another go if we need it.

I reckon we now have back up for tall forwards, rucks, small forwards, mids, and small defenders. Each player on the fringe of the first team could come in and the team and structures wouldn't be too far down as a result. Without LRT we are light on for tall defenders so hopefully ted and reg keep going well. both have been pretty good this year and played well together, particularly given the loss of aj who was critical as 3rd man up a lot last year.

Big game and it will be interesting to see how we are travelling against another side which is just "going" but has nonethless won 5 straight.

[rojo]

I watched the replay of Sunday, and after the Qu1 blitz, I was not really too impressed. The Lions dominated certain parts of the game and it was not an interesting brand of football to watch on a small screen. I was thinking if the Lions can dominate the centre clearances the way they did but were not skilled enough to capitalise, what are the Hawks etc going to do. It was good to see Reid and Jetta have some impact but there are a handful of players who are still not playing all that well. The load on our mids at the moment is even greater than in the past - up forward and down back. Against really good teams they are going to be stretched to the limit. Half the team is really going to need to step up another notch in the coming weeks.

I must have taken the grumpy pills before watching the game or was thinking that as they won by 60 points it was going to be a great game to watch and was disappointed! Might just have needed big screen vision!