Changes for the Semi Final V Carlton

[Flying South]

This is my 1st ever post, so take it easy on me. My selections for our do or die against Carlton.

Outs:
Mumford ? team balance. The 4 tall plan is just not working as we are unable to apply pressure in forward line
Rohan ? great come back mate, but get yourself 100% for next year
Bolton ? obviously not right, looked old and slow last week
Everitt ? 50/50 on this one as I am not sure what he adds to the team other than a tall mid/def option

Ins:
Morton ? adds a medium sized leading/crumbing forward. Proven goal kicker
Goodes ? xfactor, stick him in the goal square and he draws a defender away from Tippett and White. Sub him out for Jetta half way through 3rd qtr.
Lamb ? fresh legs. Can kick a goal, apply forward pressure and help out in the midfield
Biggs ? fresh legs. Gives a bit of run from the half back line and outside mid

FB: Smith, Richards, Malceski
HB: Rampe, Grundy, McVeigh
C: ROK, Hanners, Jack
HF: McGlynn, White, Lamb
FF: Goodes, Tippett, Morton
FOL: Pyke, Kennedy, Parker

INT: Bird, Mitchell, Biggs / Jetta

FWIW: My opinion on Mumford. I am not sure if he has recovered from or will ever recover from back injury. He appears a lot slower around the ground, and when he is playing the ball loose ball he tends to go to ground rather than bending over and staying on his feet. Whilst he still has some currency, I would be calling Melbourne or GWS and seeing if they are fair dinkum about trading their early draft picks. The rumours are Collingwood and Hawthorn are circling. Not sure what we would get from them. Please do not go anywhere near Heath Shaw. Pyke is in top 4 ruckmen of the league and unlucky to miss AA, so I am quite happy for him to be a lead ruckman and resting tall forward. Next season, Tippett needs to be do a little more for all those dollars he is earning. He can cover forward ruck, LRT can cover defensive ruck. Naismith is looking good, but can continue to develop in the two?s and we can pick up another ruck in the draft.

[hot potato]

Looks a much more balanced team to me, Flyin South, where the hell have you been, we need some common sense on this site.
Don't just be a one post wonder mate, The Swans need all the help they can get, because time is of the essence!

Best
HP

[magic.merkin]

This is my 1st ever post, so take it easy on me. My selections for our do or die against Carlton.

Outs:
Mumford ? team balance. The 4 tall plan is just not working as we are unable to apply pressure in forward line
Rohan ? great come back mate, but get yourself 100% for next year
Bolton ? obviously not right, looked old and slow last week
Everitt ? 50/50 on this one as I am not sure what he adds to the team other than a tall mid/def option

Ins:
Morton ? adds a medium sized leading/crumbing forward. Proven goal kicker
Goodes ? xfactor, stick him in the goal square and he draws a defender away from Tippett and White. Sub him out for Jetta half way through 3rd qtr.
Lamb ? fresh legs. Can kick a goal, apply forward pressure and help out in the midfield
Biggs ? fresh legs. Gives a bit of run from the half back line and outside mid

FB: Smith, Richards, Malceski
HB: Rampe, Grundy, McVeigh
C: ROK, Hanners, Jack
HF: McGlynn, White, Lamb
FF: Goodes, Tippett, Morton
FOL: Pyke, Kennedy, Parker

INT: Bird, Mitchell, Biggs / Jetta

FWIW: My opinion on Mumford. I am not sure if he has recovered from or will ever recover from back injury. He appears a lot slower around the ground, and when he is playing the ball loose ball he tends to go to ground rather than bending over and staying on his feet. Whilst he still has some currency, I would be calling Melbourne or GWS and seeing if they are fair dinkum about trading their early draft picks. The rumours are Collingwood and Hawthorn are circling. Not sure what we would get from them. Please do not go anywhere near Heath Shaw. Pyke is in top 4 ruckmen of the league and unlucky to miss AA, so I am quite happy for him to be a lead ruckman and resting tall forward. Next season, Tippett needs to be do a little more for all those dollars he is earning. He can cover forward ruck, LRT can cover defensive ruck. Naismith is looking good, but can continue to develop in the two?s and we can pick up another ruck in the draft.

Hey and welcome.

I agree with alll that, i'm a bit more hesitant on Mummy. BUT i think you put forward a reasonable case!

[Ludwig]

This is my 1st ever post, so take it easy on me. My selections for our do or die against Carlton.

Outs:
Mumford ? team balance. The 4 tall plan is just not working as we are unable to apply pressure in forward line
Rohan ? great come back mate, but get yourself 100% for next year
Bolton ? obviously not right, looked old and slow last week
Everitt ? 50/50 on this one as I am not sure what he adds to the team other than a tall mid/def option

Ins:
Morton ? adds a medium sized leading/crumbing forward. Proven goal kicker
Goodes ? xfactor, stick him in the goal square and he draws a defender away from Tippett and White. Sub him out for Jetta half way through 3rd qtr.
Lamb ? fresh legs. Can kick a goal, apply forward pressure and help out in the midfield
Biggs ? fresh legs. Gives a bit of run from the half back line and outside mid

FB: Smith, Richards, Malceski
HB: Rampe, Grundy, McVeigh
C: ROK, Hanners, Jack
HF: McGlynn, White, Lamb
FF: Goodes, Tippett, Morton
FOL: Pyke, Kennedy, Parker

INT: Bird, Mitchell, Biggs / Jetta

FWIW: My opinion on Mumford. I am not sure if he has recovered from or will ever recover from back injury. He appears a lot slower around the ground, and when he is playing the ball loose ball he tends to go to ground rather than bending over and staying on his feet. Whilst he still has some currency, I would be calling Melbourne or GWS and seeing if they are fair dinkum about trading their early draft picks. The rumours are Collingwood and Hawthorn are circling. Not sure what we would get from them. Please do not go anywhere near Heath Shaw. Pyke is in top 4 ruckmen of the league and unlucky to miss AA, so I am quite happy for him to be a lead ruckman and resting tall forward. Next season, Tippett needs to be do a little more for all those dollars he is earning. He can cover forward ruck, LRT can cover defensive ruck. Naismith is looking good, but can continue to develop in the two?s and we can pick up another ruck in the draft.

Excellent first post. No need to fear the RWO Secret Police. All bark, no bite.

I agree with your analysis on the Mumford situation and have made several posts expressing similar thoughts. Signing Mumford to a new 3 year deal pretty much closes the door on that period for Naismith and Patrick Mitchell. I also fear that teams will find ways of exploiting 3 big men in the same side and we may be forced to drop either Pyke or Mummy anyway.

Selection calls are difficult this week because it's hard for the fans to know the real fitness situation of the players, so we have to trust the selection committee to make the right call.

Rohan has not improved since returning from training and there is no reason to expect that will change next game. I would pack him up for next year.

The call on Bolton must have been on the table for a while, but hard to know if Horse has the courage to make the call. No doubt Ross Lyon and Mick Malthouse would. I'm a big fan of Jude, but he's not contributing much these days.

Morton hasn't played much of late, so not sure about his fitness either. Too big a risk and I think Everett is still the better option.

The Mummy call is probably the right one, but it signals that he is definitely gone after the season. So there is more at stake than just this game. If we were in line to play Geelong in 2 weeks time it would be a consideration, but given that we will be playing Freo, having 2 genuine ruckmen is perhaps the preferred option to counter Sanderlands and Smith.

If Goodes does play, who gets the vest? Are either Goodes or Jetta fit enough to play out a high intensity finals game?

[DA_Swan]

Good first post - my only real comment is that if Mummy is out then we also lose a midfield presence - as both Pyke and White are poor when the ball is on the ground and a either a handball, shepherd or a decision is required to be made (swans are like seagulls around Pyke when he has the ball away from goal) - White and Pyke are all fine and good as forwards but in the ruck and when it is tough - I would have mummy any day of the week - if Kruezer is out maybe we can do it - if he is fit then Mumford would always be in my side - even more so if it is wet

[Auntie.Gerald]

ive been leaning towards Mummy being rested also given Whites form being better over the last 6 weeks then Mummy........plus whites flexibility in the ruck and upfront BUT also because Goodes will need to play mainly upfront if he is ready

the reality is that we are being exposed in the middle and the opposition HBFs of the best teams are running away from our overly tall forward line and making it very very difficult for our backs and midfield to man up

[Cheer_Cheer]

I don't see a problem with the number of talls in the side.. I see a problem in how we are using them.. Both Mummy and Pyke offer diverse skills that compliment each other IMO. Our forward 50 entries have been shocking of late. That and the way our forwards don't separate an isolate defenders. If you are a tall fwd line then that is essential.. None of these big packs of players going for the ball.. The poor delivery is causing this.. That all comes back to the midfield being beaten is causing everything else to fail. We have the in and under type players that can win the ball in the clinches but have been missing outside mids who can then deliver it nicely to a leading forward. IE - Goodes, Jetta and McVeigh in last years role. If Goodes isn't fit enough to play on the ball in this game then he is no good hanging around the forward line. He would just add to the problems. I would rather see BJ or Lamb come in and hang around the packs and blast it quickly onto the chest of a leading forward..

[JudesaGun]

Is that to win or lose?

JudesaGun has become JudesaDud

Pretty simple really.

We're top heavy and White is always the first one out.

Bolton is clearly hampered and his ability to put any pressure on in the forward line has dwindled.

We can not carry three underdone players and of Jetta, Goodes and Rohan, Rohan offers the least.

Lamb provides some skill and class up forward and can rotate as a mid.

Morton provides the lead up option we have really been missing.

[Ludwig]

Pretty simple really.

We're top heavy and White is always the first one out.

Bolton is clearly hampered and his ability to put any pressure on in the forward line has dwindled.

We can not carry three underdone players and of Jetta, Goodes and Rohan, Rohan offers the least.

Lamb provides some skill and class up forward and can rotate as a mid.

Morton provides the lead up option we have really been missing.

Why should White be the first one out when he contributes least to the 'top heaviness' theory.

[AnsweredPrayers]

I agree and I don't think White has been bad at ground level as suggested. Indeed, I think one of the reasons he looks better is his contests at ground level when he fails to take the mark (never thought I'd say that).

[barry]

Playing white on hodge was poor coaching. White is best when attacking. A better match up for hodge is either okeefe or even morton.

The handling of morton this year has been poor.

[Go Swannies]

Playing white on hodge was poor coaching. White is best when attacking. A better match up for hodge is either okeefe or even morton.

The handling of morton this year has been poor.

If there is one player on the team where we certainly have no idea about his state of mind and how he should be best managed it's Morton. So this statement is simply unfair. He may have been handled in a way that leaves him in the best condition to face life after footy. You and I simply don't know. RUOkayMate should be a ruler we run over our judgement calls.

[dimelb]

Andrew Wu says Hannebery is the barometer:

Hot-cold Hannebury Swans' fortune-teller

[sprite]

I'm sorry, but whay all the man love for Morton?

His last game was his last game, a send off in Sydney.

He looked out of touch and out of condition. Many are saying not to carry any under done / injured player into a final, I think he fits this category.

Lamb / Biggs offer something and maybe getting McGlynn back into the forward line rather than tagging may help.

[aardvark]

According to Matt Cameron LRT has been training for the last 3 weeks and will play somewhere this week. I'd have him in for Everitt in a heartbeat.
Is it too much of a risk to play him and Goodes?