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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
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    • Jan 2003
    • 15968

    #16
    Goodes just tweeted he's in Canberra to watch the ressies. Maybe he could sneakily come on wearing Towers' guernsey
    Last edited by ugg; 15 September 2013, 10:42 AM.
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    • Go Swannies
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      • Sep 2003
      • 5697

      #17
      Noone saying we have to drop Jude for this one? That's a turnaround from last week.

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      • Ludwig
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        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        #18
        Originally posted by Go Swannies
        Noone saying we have to drop Jude for this one? That's a turnaround from last week.
        There were several surprisingly good performances from a few players under scrutiny this year. Jude was one of them. Another one was Grundy, who looked a different player. It was probably the best Richards-Grundy combo for the season. I was also impressed with Everitt's game. He was very solid defensively last night.

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        • Matt80
          Suspended by the MRP
          • Sep 2013
          • 1802

          #19
          Great call Ludwig! Richards, Grundy and Everette were superb last night!

          Richards last month has been great and I hope he gets through to take on the Pav.

          Rampe was also strong and it was great to see that the Swans have the confidence to put Rampe on Chris Judd when he was resting in the forward line!

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          • Melbournehammer
            Senior Player
            • May 2007
            • 1815

            #20
            Sadly for everitt that is two weeks in a row he has missed a goal by about a metre. I wish he'd kicked them both. It would do wonders for his confidence, and would force players to pay him a bit more respect.

            I think ted is sure to go. Sadly. I can't see how running past the ball to shepherd improves the case at all.

            Sure will make our defence look like our reserves.

            We are still some way off our best footy. In the third quarter we missed a sequence of targets which against the hawks got punished but we were able to get it back again. If we actually hit targets regularly next week we are in the game with a sneaky chance.

            But I am really delighted with this team. Their commitment is unsurpassed in the league.

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            • JudesaGun
              On the Rookie List
              • Sep 2003
              • 554

              #21
              Ins: Lamb and McGlynn

              Outs: Tippett, Mitchell

              LRT in for Richards if he gets suspended.
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              • dimelb
                pr. dim-melb; m not f
                • Jun 2003
                • 6889

                #22
                Originally posted by Go Swannies
                Noone saying we have to drop Jude for this one? That's a turnaround from last week.
                I would've dropped Jude, but he showed that while the legs might have slowed, the hands and the mind are still in good working order.
                He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                • Triple B
                  Formerly 'BBB'
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 6999

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Melbournehammer
                  I can't see how running past the ball to shepherd improves the case at all.
                  Running past the ball is irrelevant in shepherding situations.

                  It's almost a requirement, is it not?
                  Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                  • Swanno
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 34

                    #24
                    One thing that cannot change is McVeigh back into the half back position. He needs to spend the majority of the time in the midfield and around the stoppages. Yes, I realise he has been fantastic at half back, but that is because he is an elite player who can adapt to any situation. From a team point of view, he needs to be back in the midfield, dishing out quick fire handballs. Biggs, I think, comfortably slots into that position anyway.

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                    • liz
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                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16758

                      #25
                      I think that the action leading to the bump (ie legitimate shepherd vs late bump of playing who has disposed of the ball) might have an impact on whether something is graded as negligent or reckless. But Buddy's came back as negligent, so there is no room to move downwards in comparison. It will come down to the grading of medium vs low impact, I suspect. I haven't watched a replay yet. Did Casboult stay down / go off?

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                      • Captain
                        Captain of the Side
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 3602

                        #26
                        Teddy should be ok. I think it's inconclusive that he actually hit him in the head.

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                        • Ludwig
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                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          #27
                          If Big Richards is suspended, Little Richard can take his place:

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                          • Triple B
                            Formerly 'BBB'
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 6999

                            #28
                            Originally posted by liz
                            Did Casboult stay down / go off?
                            He laid down pretty motionless for about 5 secs. He then got up on his haunches before pushing the trainer away and continuing.

                            He was quite obviously shaken up, but didn't appear to hold his face in any way. It doesn't look real good the way these things are adjudicated these days, but the game has definitely become soft if a good hard shepherd, a legal and legitimate tactic, costs you playing in a PF.
                            Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                            • Melbournehammer
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2007
                              • 1815

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Triple B
                              Running past the ball is irrelevant in shepherding situations.

                              It's almost a requirement, is it not?
                              I agree. There is a clear paradox it seems to me that a player who bumps when the person has the ball gets told they had the choice of bumping or tackling and therefore lives with the consequences of the bump.

                              For players who are shepherding it seems the only alternative is to push the player, but as anyone who has tried to push a person running into the person who is running straight at them knows that can be a recipe for broken wrists etc.

                              I don't like the rule, although I am generally sympathetic to protecting the head as anyone who has seen the impact on NFL players from head injuries would be, but I think he is in trouble, and I can't see the advantage of arguing that the person he bumped didn't have the ball.

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                              • MightyBloods
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 532

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Triple B
                                Running past the ball is irrelevant in shepherding situations.

                                It's almost a requirement, is it not?
                                Exactly, thats how you shepherd by running towards the opposing player. It's different to Franklin as Franklin had a choice to tackle as Mal had the ball. You can't tackle in a shepherd as you give a free kick away. I've also slowed the vision on Richards and I fail to see his shoulder hitting the head. I see it as shoulder on shoulder and the impact of the shepherd rocked the blue.

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