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  • Chilcott
    Regular in the Side
    • Jan 2008
    • 595

    Originally posted by lwjoyner
    On the KB show this morning it was mentioned by GD that Jeremy Laidler might be on his way.
    I would be happy to get Laidler. Don't know why Malthouse didn't rate him.

    Was very good for Carlton the season before.

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    • Mug Punter
      On the Rookie List
      • Nov 2009
      • 3325

      Originally posted by 707
      Now Armstrong has gone, Lamb to follow, if you do a best 22 for 2014 you'll find that we have absolutely no back up players and several of the best 22 like Goodes, Shaw, Reid, AJ are coming back from significant 2013 injuries.

      We surely we can't go into 2014 with the list as it currently stands plus 5-6 draftees. There must be a plan to add 2 or 3 mature delisted types or we have our sights on some mature types in the ND rather than all 18 year olds.

      I'm getting more and more worried by the day despite having faith in our clubs plan.
      No idea how much depth you actually requite tbh....

      Of the players mentioned, Armstrong non senior quality, Mumford will be replaced in the ND or PSD, Jed was well down the pecking order, White replaced by Buddy. Dre was a squad player.

      Season saw us blood Rampe, BJ, Mitchell, Biggs and Cunningham. Can see Membrey, Lloyd and maybe Naismith stepping up in 2014.

      So really, we just need one or two fringe players to step up to the plate to get to the 28-30 genuine senior players required to be competitive.

      Agree though that perhaps a senior player or two via the ND/PSD could be an option if the price is right

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      • 707
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2009
        • 6204

        Originally posted by Chilcott
        I would be happy to get Laidler. Don't know why Malthouse didn't rate him. Was very good for Carlton the season before.
        I was surprised he wasn't in favour this year at Carlton. I know Brett Ratten mentioned Laidler's season ending injury in 2012 was the straw that broke the camel's back in their failure that season. Seem to remember him as a good reader of the play across half back and generating offensive run. Be a useful pick up given our list situation - and cheap too!

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        • Melbournehammer
          Senior Player
          • May 2007
          • 1815

          Originally posted by barry
          Flsgs are won when u get a good run with injuries. You wont win a flag if players like armstrong line up in your grand final team.
          what crap. you win with great players and role players. stop bagging players. it is the team which wins the flag not the individual. paul bevan is a flag winner. mitch morton is a flag winner. shane ellen won a flag as a full forward.

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            Originally posted by Melbournehammer
            what crap. you win with great players and role players. stop bagging players. it is the team which wins the flag not the individual. paul bevan is a flag winner. mitch morton is a flag winner. shane ellen won a flag as a full forward.
            I know it a little unfair to single out armstrong, but every team has a player that fans know wouldnt getting a game if they were premier contenders.

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            • Auntie.Gerald
              Veterans List
              • Oct 2009
              • 6474

              if we could all pick the two GF teams and the winner a year in advance just based on whats on paper we would be millionaires
              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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              • Mug Punter
                On the Rookie List
                • Nov 2009
                • 3325

                Originally posted by barry
                I know it a little unfair to single out armstrong, but every team has a player that fans know wouldnt getting a game if they were premier contenders.
                Like Jesse this year...(harsh but fair)

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                • Matt80
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 1802

                  Just wanted to run through our senior list!

                  With Jed Lamb going we now have have a total of 32 on our senior list. This includes the elevations of B.Jack and Rampe!

                  Do you think we are going to get to 38 by drafting six players from the NAB draft

                  or

                  Will we elevate more rookies to the senior list or pick up some experienced players in the pre-season draft?

                  Taking 6 players in the 2013 NAB draft to go with our four NAB 2012 picks (who are all yet to play a senior game) seems like a lot of inexperience to carry on our list!

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                  • WolfGang
                    Pushing for Selection
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 68

                    I thought that Biggs would have been elevated - seeing that it was his 2nd year on the rookie list.
                    (If he is not elevated - what happens to Biggs ????? )

                    I think that it may be a combination of:
                    1) Draft - 4 players in NAB draft.
                    2) 1 pick in pre-season draft
                    3) "keep" 1 rookie upgrade spare - i.e. only use 37 of the 38 spots (I think the club can do this)
                    4) Select new rookies with 2 to 3 year view / requirements i.e. ruck / tall defenders / tall/big midfielders (and fast !! - it is a wish list !!)

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16758

                      Originally posted by WolfGang
                      I thought that Biggs would have been elevated - seeing that it was his 2nd year on the rookie list.
                      (If he is not elevated - what happens to Biggs ????? )
                      Seeing as he hasn't been delisted or promoted (yet), presumably he remains on the rookie list.


                      I think that it may be a combination of:
                      1) Draft - 4 players in NAB draft.
                      2) 1 pick in pre-season draft
                      3) "keep" 1 rookie upgrade spare - i.e. only use 37 of the 38 spots (I think the club can do this)
                      4) Select new rookies with 2 to 3 year view / requirements i.e. ruck / tall defenders / tall/big midfielders (and fast !! - it is a wish list !!)
                      Why keep a pick until the PSD. What tantalising prospect is going to be waiting at pick 14 (or whatever we have in that draft). Pretty much any delisted player can just be recruited as a free agent.

                      Minimum senior list size is 38. It's not an option to go into the season with a list of just 37.

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                      • sprite
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 813

                        We need to draft a small forward named Cotton.


                        Imagine the forward line of

                        COTTON TIP and BUD
                        sprite

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                        • caj23
                          Senior Player
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 2462

                          Originally posted by Mug Punter
                          Like Jesse this year...(harsh but fair)
                          Disagree, he was one of our better players over our 3 finals matches and will be a handy player for Collingwood.

                          I like Armstrong and wish him well, but I believe his weak defensive skills would not stand up to the finals pressure against quality teams like Hawks, Cats, Dockers, hence he didn't get a look in most of this season and has now been delisted.

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                          • ScottH
                            It's Goodes to cheer!!
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 23665

                            Originally posted by sprite
                            We need to draft a small forward named Cotton.


                            Imagine the forward line of

                            COTTON TIP and BUD
                            Don't know whether to laugh or cry at that one.

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                            • AnsweredPrayers
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 123

                              Originally posted by Matt80
                              Just wanted to run through our senior list!

                              With Jed Lamb going we now have have a total of 32 on our senior list. This includes the elevations of B.Jack and Rampe!

                              Do you think we are going to get to 38 by drafting six players from the NAB draft

                              or

                              Will we elevate more rookies to the senior list or pick up some experienced players in the pre-season draft?

                              Taking 6 players in the 2013 NAB draft to go with our four NAB 2012 picks (who are all yet to play a senior game) seems like a lot of inexperience to carry on our list!
                              We always seem to promote a rookie around NAB cup time. I'm sure they will be saying to some of the rookies "work hard over the preseason and there will be a spot on this list for you.....". Better to reward a great preseason than give a spot away as a Xmas gift.

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                              • Dosser
                                Just wild about Harry
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 1833

                                Originally posted by sprite
                                We need to draft a small forward named Cotton.


                                Imagine the forward line of

                                COTTON TIP and BUD
                                Reminds me of the old line of Lawrence Angwin coming to us from Carlton so we would have had a half-back line of Angwin Nicks Goodes

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