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I like the idea of the Bolton type succession plan for ROK.
Perhaps next year when Mitchell is then 100% ready to take his job in the midfield.
Perhaps next year when Mitchell is then 100% ready to take his job in the midfield.
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Official Driver Of The "Who Gives A @@@@ As The Player Will Get Delisted Anyway" Bandwagon.
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With a 3 pronged tall attack of Tippett, Reid and Buddy, along with the return of Goodes, and your suggestion that ROK spends more time forward (which I agree with) and Membrey pushing for selection (he's the prototype mid-sized forward - only needs to build the tank), it is far from evident where Rohan will play next year. I think that may solve the HBF problem.
Then you have Lamb, Cunningham, Biggs, Towers, Lloyd and Perris queuing up for a spot that isn't vacant yet (midfield, forward, flank, anywhere). Plus you would figure that there will be at least one additional midfielder drafted this year. Why in the world would we want to trade for another midfielder? Our problem will be holding on to the ones we already have.Comment
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so it appears we now have picks as per below after Mummy and White picks are counted for
15, 35, 39, 44, 53 - 71, 89, 107, 125
I dont know who the swans would be targeting to trade a pick for but I cant help but think that if it is a skinny draft and if we loose Goodes, ROK and Shaw after season 2014 that we may still be after a 23 to 24 yr old signing as we are loosing a hell of a lot of experience and hardened snr players in 2013/2014 potentially
- Varcoe keeps coming up in different chats and I wonder if we gave up pick 44 or pick 44 and 71 if we could get him to come on board as our small running back is still critical to fill in years to come and maybe even in 2014 !
* ROK is somewhat covered by PArker and maybe even Birdy ?
* Bolton by Mitchell
* Goodes by Buddy
* Shaw by maybe Rampe ?? or a Varcoe style of player
* Mummy not covered in my eyes but who know the Tip and Pyke could be lethal !
* Mattner covered by AJ and or Rampe
* White doesnt need to be covered because if Sam Reid was fit he would have played all of 2013 but we always have LRT to help in the forward line if too many injuries
PS - Ludwig you could be right ie Rohan has all the potential to be a lethal HBF in attack..........Towers or Cunningham also have potentialLast edited by Auntie.Gerald; 20 October 2013, 10:12 PM."be tough, only when it gets tough"
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Auntie Gerald, may I suggest that you look at the Swans player list and make a best 22 for next year. Could you kindly post it on here along with all the players you like, but couldn't make the best 22. Then we can chat about the holes in the side that need filling for next year and beyond, post-Goodes, ROK and Shaw.Comment
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There's a difference between inside midfielders and 6'2" monsters.
eg. Sewell and Sam Mitchell vs JPK and ROK
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I believe he played alot of junior footy in the midfield, but moved forward in the TAC.
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I like Acres and Marsh - continuing the fascination with the brothers. Seems either could be anything, for the big men I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't just pick up a couple of rookies.Last edited by Bloody Hell; 21 October 2013, 03:03 AM.The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.Comment
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Ive popped down my 2014 estimate of our list with question marks against some players that maybe under pressure to remain on the list in 2014 vs some of our draft picks
Goodes, Tippett, McGlynn
Buddy, Reid, Rok
Hannes
Pyke
Kennedy
Jack
Macca
Jetta
Mal, Grundy, Smithy
Rampe, Ted, AJ
19. Parker
20. Rohan
21. Shaw
22. Mitchell
23. Birdy
24. Lambie
25. LRT
26. Cunningham
27. BJ
28. Lloyd
29. Biggs?
30. Towers
31. X
32. Membrey
33. Naismith
34. Lockyear?
35. Marsh
36. Dick
37. Walsh ?
38. ?
Rookies
1. Perris
2. P.Mitchell ?
3. Daniel Robinson"be tough, only when it gets tough"
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I doubt Biggs will be under pressure.
He certainly took his opportunity when it arose.
He showed great poise and a willingness to take on his opponent.
Another preseason will improve his strength and endurance.
I liked what I saw of him.Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MTComment
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I would agree, and why are we always on Birds back.
Look at how he polls in B&F, he does more than many here realise as a run with player...
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That said it is tough to pick the top 22 and you need a top 30 that can swap around and cover injury to be a contenderStaying ahead of the game...Comment
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Does anyone know if Biggs, Brandon and Xavier been kept on the senior list. Jack and Richards can go back on the rookie list but Biggs has to be kept on the list or be delisted.Comment
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Tippetts younger brother is available, and we do seem to love recruiting brothers.
Most of our backline seems to have only two to three years in them so we need some help there!doof-doof
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When I look at this list, it seems very strong to me. The fact that Bird and LRT are outside your best 22 says something about the depth. In fact, I feel reasonably confident that the senior capable list runs 30+ deep next year. There are several down the list that should be pushing for selection next year and few others by 2015.
We also should be adding another 5 or 6 players to the list by the end of draft period, and a couple of those should add some more excitement about the future.
The list is in very good shape. Certainly one that we can go into next year feeling reasonably confident with. From an age profile perspective, only the KPDs look vulnerable a few years our (post Ted), but I would imagine this will be resolved by the end of the draft period next year; we also have Reid as a possible swingman to fill the defensive gap if needed.
Ruck stocks are thin at the moment, but if you play only one genuine ruckman, it has to be that way. You can see why Mummy had to go. If we played 2 genuine ruckmen, then 2 of Parker, Mitchell, Rohan and Shaw would not be in the 21 starters (and Bird is already out of your best 22 list, which will not be the case from a perennial top 10 BnF player).
There's a fine line between depth and lack of opportunity. Playing careers are short.
I'm not worried.Comment
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In terms of absolute best, I'd swap LRT for Reg and Lamb for Benny.
Otherwise, that's a formidable list of talent, to the point where it raises the question of whether the coaches/selectors will be prepared to take advantage of it by resting players from time to time. I imagine the players themselves may not be happy about such an arrangement, but we saw how it benefited Freo this year, and I wonder whether the time has come to do something similar (not on their scale of course) during the H&A season.He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)Comment
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if we went with 38 list players and 3 rookies in 2013 what is your prediction for the total list numbers for the 2014 season ?"be tough, only when it gets tough"
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