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  • MightyBloods
    Regular in the Side
    • Feb 2012
    • 532

    #61
    Originally posted by Blood Tunnel
    In 5 years time when Buddy is getting 1.2 or 1.4 M, our main competitors will have a player or 2 demanding similar amounts from their club. What will Selwood of Geelong be on in 3 years for example? If prior to his next contract, someone comes knocking & offers him $8M for the final 5 years of his career, then the Cats are going to have to offer him at least $1M per year, don't you think? they also have Hawkins to worry about. So the one major positive out of this long term contract is the knowledge that it won't change & other contracts can be done accordingly. $1.4M could quite easily seem like a bargain in 4 or 5 years time in comparison to the contracts of the stars of the comp around that time.
    It's quite feasible that there will be another player or two on 1.5-1.8 M per year.
    5 years ago, not too many players were on 800K but that has increased significantly. It's only natural. Our main concern with Buddy is that he represents our club & his fellow team mates with respect & the respect will be returned ten fold.
    If he gets that, then we'll all get along fine, whilst rubbing Hawk supporters' noses in it!

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    Here here!
    Agree on all fronts.
    ...and I can remember similar noise and cynics when Alistair Lynch was signed to a long term contract which ended in one of the biggest bargains for Brisbane.......and similar noise when the Swans signed someone called Tony Lockett. I think I heard media and some supporters question what will Plugger do to Sydney's culture with his so called bad attitude and if he'd be accepted after his infamous clash with Peter Caven. Even time doesnt stop the cynics and noise from going away. Recruitment is all about trying to foretell the future and I'd prefer to back our experts and not some coach potatoes with a gut feel. The club has done a reasonable job in recent years. Two flags and hopefully another within the next few years.

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    • spiffy-dude
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Oct 2013
      • 202

      #62
      We have pulled off two, not 1 but two major signings, we have trimmed the fat with list cloggers, have the best coaching dept in the land, for the first time in decades top players want to come to us and finally we don't have to put up with the patronising and head patting from down south because they hate us in that envious way...and yet our supporters are friggen worried about him wearing a stupid hat or what a gossip much racking newspaper has to say.

      I seriously have not followed a code where i have experienced this. Must be the socialist way the AFL has been run but i simply dont get it. Other code fans would be absolutely thrilled in signing say a messi and ronaldo for both of them to play in the same team.

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      • magic.merkin
        Senior Player
        • Jul 2008
        • 1199

        #63
        I agree with everything except your constant vitriol towards Victorians.

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        • spiffy-dude
          Suspended by the MRP
          • Oct 2013
          • 202

          #64
          Well the majority of all the noise, stupidity and innuendo does come from melbourne, so what else am i too say.

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          • Plugger46
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2003
            • 3674

            #65
            Originally posted by spiffy-dude
            Well the majority of all the noise, stupidity and innuendo does come from melbourne, so what else am i too say.
            Did you read the drivel from Richard Hinds the other day? Peter Fitzsimons as well?

            No doubt that there's plenty of peanuts in the Melbourne media. There's plenty in the Sydney media too.
            Bloods

            "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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            • On-Baller
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              • Mar 2011
              • 283

              #66
              Originally posted by magic.merkin
              I agree with everything except your constant vitriol towards Victorians.
              +1 Its like a broken record on here of late, when i started this thread many started laying the boots into the vic media straight away, yet it was Neil Cordy and TheDailyTelegraph that published the story. Yes the melbourne media can suck but so does the sydney media when it comes to reporting on the storm. Change the record please.

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              • spiffy-dude
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                • Oct 2013
                • 202

                #67
                I forgot, when you criticise melbourne people they get so angry and upset, but the same people have no qualms in telling you how much Sydney is a @@@@hole and how every sydneysider is nothing but trash..and this before you can get a word in.

                Makes me laugh all the time.

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                Originally posted by Plugger46
                Did you read the drivel from Richard Hinds the other day? Peter Fitzsimons as well?

                No doubt that there's plenty of peanuts in the Melbourne media. There's plenty in the Sydney media too.
                I dont read murdoch papers, they make me so angry that its not worth my time.

                I did read his drivel when he wrote for the SMH and he seems to have been told by news limited to change his style thus news readers can understand.

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                • ScottH
                  It's Goodes to cheer!!
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 23665

                  #68
                  Originally posted by spiffy-dude
                  I forgot, when you criticise melbourne people they get so angry and upset, but the same people have no qualms in telling you how much Sydney is a @@@@hole and how every sydneysider is nothing but trash..and this before you can get a word in.

                  Makes me laugh all the time.

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                  I dont read murdoch papers, they make me so angry that its not worth my time.

                  I did read his drivel when he wrote for the SMH and he seems to have been told by news limited to change his style thus news readers can understand.
                  I have no idea what you are on about.
                  I live in Melbourne and I hardly hear anyone bag Sydney.
                  All people get upset and angry when criticised unnecessarily, not just Melbourne people.
                  All papers are full of dribble, especially at this time of year as there is nothing else to write about in relation to football. Hence why I don't read the papers. ( Although I did catch Mr Hinds bit)

                  You have been warned before about your anti Melb/Vic rants. They are just becoming tiresome and boring.
                  Many of the people on this site are not from Sydney, and all you're doing is insulting them with your pointless rants.

                  Enough is enough.

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                  • Bloodthirsty
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                    • May 2013
                    • 607

                    #69
                    Anyone who reads mainstream media for any other purpose than flipping through it while waiting at a cafe for their coffee cannot be taken seriously. It is 100% sensationalism, distraction or propaganda. But somehow papers keep selling. Go figure.

                    Anyway, regarding Buddy - as someone said earlier, there is a long tail and it will sting, but I believe that the Swans' philosophy is that we will be largely immune to the poison by then such that we will be well ahead of the deal with an array of KPIs including premierships won, market share grown, profits made and competitor comparisons made under changing future conditions.
                    "Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the Swans win pretty."

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                    • Mug Punter
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                      • Nov 2009
                      • 3325

                      #70
                      Originally posted by ScottH
                      I have no idea what you are on about.
                      I live in Melbourne and I hardly hear anyone bag Sydney.
                      All people get upset and angry when criticised unnecessarily, not just Melbourne people.
                      All papers are full of dribble, especially at this time of year as there is nothing else to write about in relation to football. Hence why I don't read the papers. ( Although I did catch Mr Hinds bit)

                      You have been warned before about your anti Melb/Vic rants. They are just becoming tiresome and boring.
                      Many of the people on this site are not from Sydney, and all you're doing is insulting them with your pointless rants.

                      Enough is enough.
                      Indeed, let's all respect our fellow supporters. I love Sydney, have lived here all my life, but rate Melbourne highly. The whole Sydney-Melbourne thing is tiresome.

                      I have to laugh at our own supporters though. Had GWS signed Buddy on our terms we would be deriding the deal and the player.

                      Why? Because this deal has real risk, upside and downside. Buddy could be a bargain in 5 years time or his best days could be behind him and he could be a financial drain of massive proportions. He could find the Swans culture just what he needs or he could be a loose cannon that is nothing but trouble (He has form, whether we like to admit or not).

                      He is a risky proposition. I feel uneasy about it but I believe he is a risk worth taking and if he can help win us a flag in the next three years (his best days will probably be behind him in years 4-5 onwards) then I am happy carrying him for 2-3 years at the end of the deal.

                      Commercially it is a no-brainer and I love the fact that it strikes a huge blow to GWS.

                      It won't do any of us any favours to suddenly have Swans-coloured glasses with this bloke. He is a bit of a dickhead (from what I perceive anyway) but he is our dickhead and if he can win us a flag or two and meet our team rules then I'll live with any billy big bollocks behaviour that we have to deal with.

                      One thing is for sure, if he is not fit when he returns to training he is on for one hell of an off-season..

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                      • Mug Punter
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                        • Nov 2009
                        • 3325

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Bloodthirsty
                        Anyone who reads mainstream media for any other purpose than flipping through it while waiting at a cafe for their coffee cannot be taken seriously. It is 100% sensationalism, distraction or propaganda. But somehow papers keep selling. Go figure.

                        Anyway, regarding Buddy - as someone said earlier, there is a long tail and it will sting, but I believe that the Swans' philosophy is that we will be largely immune to the poison by then such that we will be well ahead of the deal with an array of KPIs including premierships won, market share grown, profits made and competitor comparisons made under changing future conditions.
                        Reality is a lot high profile sportsmen have a huge amount of lair in them though I must say I do not see a lot in the current Swans squad (Buddy excepted).

                        Buddy will inevitably attract more attention to lairy behaviour due to having the highest profile in the game.

                        Unless it is serious then I'm going to let the inevitable tabloid tittle tattle wash over me. It will be really interesting to see if and how he pulls his head in at the Swans.

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                        • Melbourne_Blood
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2010
                          • 3312

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Mug Punter
                          Indeed, let's all respect our fellow supporters. I love Sydney, have lived here all my life, but rate Melbourne highly. The whole Sydney-Melbourne thing is tiresome.

                          I have to laugh at our own supporters though. Had GWS signed Buddy on our terms we would be deriding the deal and the player.

                          Why? Because this deal has real risk, upside and downside. Buddy could be a bargain in 5 years time or his best days could be behind him and he could be a financial drain of massive proportions. He could find the Swans culture just what he needs or he could be a loose cannon that is nothing but trouble (He has form, whether we like to admit or not).

                          He is a risky proposition. I feel uneasy about it but I believe he is a risk worth taking and if he can help win us a flag in the next three years (his best days will probably be behind him in years 4-5 onwards) then I am happy carrying him for 2-3 years at the end of the deal.

                          Commercially it is a no-brainer and I love the fact that it strikes a huge blow to GWS.

                          It won't do any of us any favours to suddenly have Swans-coloured glasses with this bloke. He is a bit of a dickhead (from what I perceive anyway) but he is our dickhead and if he can win us a flag or two and meet our team rules then I'll live with any billy big bollocks behaviour that we have to deal with.

                          One thing is for sure, if he is not fit when he returns to training he is on for one hell of an off-season..
                          Hats off to you Mug, very good post! And the line of the off season so far " he is our dickhead " Sensational !

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                          • chalbilto
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 1139

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Bloodthirsty
                            Anyone who reads mainstream media for any other purpose than flipping through it while waiting at a cafe for their coffee cannot be taken seriously. It is 100% sensationalism, distraction or propaganda. But somehow papers keep selling. Go figure.

                            Anyway, regarding Buddy - as someone said earlier, there is a long tail and it will sting, but I believe that the Swans' philosophy is that we will be largely immune to the poison by then such that we will be well ahead of the deal with an array of KPIs including premierships won, market share grown, profits made and competitor comparisons made under changing future conditions.
                            With respect to your views, I am curious, if not mainstream, what other media do you read to know what is happening in the rest of Australia and the world?

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                            • Mug Punter
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                              • Nov 2009
                              • 3325

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                              Hats off to you Mug, very good post! And the line of the off season so far " he is our dickhead " Sensational !
                              And I will defend to him to the death, despite my personal reservations.

                              One thing is for sure, the man is a human headline so hang on tight fellow Swans, it's sure going to be one hell of a ride.....

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                              • Bloodthirsty
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                                • May 2013
                                • 607

                                #75
                                Originally posted by chalbilto
                                With respect to your views, I am curious, if not mainstream, what other media do you read to know what is happening in the rest of Australia and the world?
                                Basically alternative media such as Alex Jone's Infowars.com and a few others I know I can trust. For example, you would think the TPP would be splashed all across the front page of the papers. But no, I just flicked through the Tele in an IGA about an hour ago and no, what a surprise.

                                Infowars Blows The Lid Off TPP Agreement - YouTube

                                I had to go through a lot of self-change to be at the place I am right now. I had to deconstruct, question and unlearn everything I heard at school, uni and from general society. The relevance of alternative media makes more sense when the bigger picture is understood. If everyone understood, fact by fact, then there would be less debt, less sickness, less corruption, no one dying of cancer or fake wars - the list goes on.

                                I won't go into it too much, and I apologise for getting off topic. It took me years to slowly realise these things.

                                The TPP affects 40% of the world's GDP. Buddy Franklin affects the other 60%.
                                "Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the Swans win pretty."

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