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  • bloodsbigot
    Regular in the Side
    • Mar 2010
    • 813

    #31
    Originally posted by Primmy
    So why on earth would a Swans supporter even want to chip at Kizz?? The content of the speech was good for a Jumper Presentation Night. It was not exactly the opening of Parliament!
    Well I just think public speaking is a really valuable skill to have. It persuades people. It inspires people. It helps create movements. And it has potential to help grow membership, sponsorship, passion and interest in the club.

    The content of the speech was good and hit the mark (Reading it made me excited to listen to the speech), but if we look at his body language and tonality, he seems to not really believe what he's saying and lacks passion. Do you really think a neutral observer would consider joining the club after a weak speech like that?

    It's all PR. If he (Or somebody at the swans) develops into a good public speaker, it would be massively beneficial for the club.

    If you think public speaking isn't a big deal, just look at guys from Steve Jobs to Churchill to Hitler. They created massive passion and interest just from speaking to an audience.

    Sure, it was only a jumper presentation night, but for future purposes (Like speaking to reporters, premiership winning speech, Brownlow acceptance speech etc) I think he should work on it. I was left feeling underwhelmed. I completely agree that he can learn how to do it. I think he should be trained... but that's just me.

    I think most neutral observers would totally understand that he's paid for kicking a footy and not a trained speaker, but if he'd just spoken with a little more fire, those same neutral supporters may be caught up in the passion of a presentation and it may lead to memberships. Just saying.

    I think Hanners would make a good public speaker, but I think the best public speaker may be Ted Richards due to all the practice he's had with the Richards report. Also, Dane Rampe seems pretty confident and articulate.

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    • DamY
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2011
      • 1479

      #32
      Originally posted by liz
      Don't agree with that. Public speaking is a skill that can be practised and learned in the same way as many other skills. Some people find it a little easier to learn that other, but most people can become decent if they have sufficient practice. If KJ had spent as many hours practising public speaking as he has running and kicking a Sherrin, he'd probably be pretty good at it by now.

      I thought his speech was fine. Yes, the delivery might have been better had he not been so obviously reading it, but if you go back and watch past speeches from people like McVeigh, you'll notice he has detailed notes in front of him too - he has just learned to look up at the audience a little more often.
      Yeah I used to be crap at public speaking, but had to present a lot of training classes for work and just figured out what was good and what was not so good. Now people compliment me on how well I speak in group situations *proud*

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      • Nondo
        On the Rookie List
        • Jan 2011
        • 23

        #33
        Kieran Jacks speech accepting his Skilton Medal, obviously not prepared, was a ripper. Full of wit and intelligence sustained for a good 10 minutes. He is a way better than average public speaker, but was clearly nervous about this one.

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        • goswannies
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2007
          • 3049

          #34
          Originally posted by bloodsbigot
          I think Hanners would make a good public speaker, but I think the best public speaker may be Ted Richards due to all the practice he's had with the Richards report.
          Says something for the Victorian private schooling system

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          • Auntie.Gerald
            Veterans List
            • Oct 2009
            • 6477

            #35
            funny with ted i find he gets very nervous speaking to the camera

            my summary:

            i find when i go to funerals or weddings and people cry or are very nervous when giving their speech it doesnt bother me at all as a listener as it shows they are human after all

            but i must say when i hear a person giving a public speech with ease and confidence i feel inspired and proud of their efforts !
            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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            • bloodsbigot
              Regular in the Side
              • Mar 2010
              • 813

              #36
              Originally posted by Nondo
              Kieran Jacks speech accepting his Skilton Medal, obviously not prepared, was a ripper. Full of wit and intelligence sustained for a good 10 minutes. He is a way better than average public speaker, but was clearly nervous about this one.
              Probably because it was spoken from the heart and he got outside of his own head (Accepting the Bob Skilton award).

              What he was reading at the jumper presentation was probably written by someone else and he had only gone over it once or twice. Heck, he might not have even practiced it aloud yet.

              The best speeches I make are usually done on the fly, with a general idea what I want to get across to my audience. Maybe next years speaker can just get up there without notes and just say what he really feels and come across as authentic.

              I remember in University the best oral presentations were made without an actual written speech and just bullet points.

              Even after all my complaining, I still seldom come across genuine when I deliver a written speech.

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              • Xie Shan
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2003
                • 2929

                #37
                For what it's worth (while we are on the subject of public speaking) I thought Andrew Pridham's speech was very good content wise, but he seemed a bit nervous, perhaps due to having such big shoes to fill? Sometimes the 'big occasion' speeches are the ones where you get the most nervous. Not easy following in the footsteps of Colless!!

                I've done Toastmasters, and find it has helped me with public speaking, it doesn't stop the nerves but there are techniques you can learn to help the butterflies fly in formation, as it were. It takes a lot of practice, though!

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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16764

                  #38
                  I really enjoyed Jude's mum's toast. Just the right mix of passion for the club, humour and advice for new Swan parents.

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                  • Meg
                    Go Swannies!
                    Site Admin
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 4828

                    #39
                    I agree Liz. I loved it. Particularly laughed at her joke about her Dad and Nicole Kidman.

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