2014 round 1 team vs GWS

[Ludwig]

No chance Cunningham is ahead of Jetta.

Just saying that Jetta missed a lot of football last year and had an interrupted preseason with the ITB surgery and he hasn't put in that much game time. While Cunningham has played well and has had a full preseason. So at this stage of the year, I think Cunningham is better prepared to run out a game than Jetta. Nothing to do with ability or how things may look by round 3, but for round 1, I would prefer Harry in the 21.

[ShockOfHair]

To help things along, here's the team that played the PF against Freo:

Dane Rampe Ted Richards Nick Smith
Nick Malceski Heath Grundy, Jarrad McVeigh
Daniel Hannebery Ryan O'Keefe Luke Parker
Ben McGlynn Jesse White Jude Bolton
Harry Cunningham Mike Pyke Craig Bird

R: Shane Mumford, Josh P. Kennedy, Kieren Jack

I/C Andrejs Everitt, Lewis Jetta, Shane Biggs, Gary Rohan (sub)



Round 1
LRT Ted Richards Nick Smith
Dane Rampe Heath Grundy, Jarrad McVeigh
Daniel Hannebery Ryan O'Keefe Luke Parker
Ben McGlynn Lance Franklin Gary Rohan
Lewis Jetta Sam Reid Craig Bird

R: Mike Pyke, Josh P. Kennedy, Kieren Jack
I/C Nick Malceski, Tom Mitchell, Tom Derickx, Harry Cunningham (sub)

OUT: Mumford, Everitt, White (traded), Bolton (ret), Biggs
IN: Reid, Franklin, LRT, Mitchell, Derickx
UNLUCKY: Laidler

LRT is an obvious for the backline but may go forward. Without Tippett and Goodes we're a bit short up forward, so Derickx to add some height in the front half.

[Ludwig]

UNLUCKY: Laidler and SHAW

[ShockOfHair]

UNLUCKY: Laidler and SHAW

Thanks, Lud. How could I forget our last captain?

[Matt80]

[QUOTE=ShockOfHair;633742]To help things along, here's the team that played the PF against Freo:

Dane Rampe Ted Richards Nick Smith
Nick Malceski Heath Grundy, Jarrad McVeigh
Daniel Hannebery Ryan O'Keefe Luke Parker
Ben McGlynn Jesse White Jude Bolton
Harry Cunningham Mike Pyke Craig Bird

R: Shane Mumford, Josh P. Kennedy, Kieren Jack

I/C Andrejs Everitt, Lewis Jetta, Shane Biggs, Gary Rohan (sub)



Round 1
LRT Ted Richards Nick Smith
Dane Rampe Heath Grundy, Jarrad McVeigh
Daniel Hannebery Ryan O'Keefe Luke Parker
Ben McGlynn Lance Franklin Gary Rohan
Lewis Jetta Sam Reid Craig Bird

R: Mike Pyke, Josh P. Kennedy, Kieren Jack
I/C Nick Malceski, Tom Mitchell, Tom Derickx, Harry Cunningham (sub)

OUT: Mumford, Everitt, White (traded), Bolton (ret), Biggs
IN: Reid, Franklin, LRT, Mitchell, Derickx
UNLUCKY: Laidler

LRT is an obvious for the backline but may go forward. Without Tippett and Goodes we're a bit short up forward, so Derickx to add some height in the front half.[/QUOT

LRT has to play back against GWS due to them having Cameron, Patton and Tom Boyd who are huge key forwards!
He may play in other places depending on the opposition!

[Auntie.Gerald]

i think AJ, LRT and Rampe will simply alternate starting down back most the season with LRT being able to upfront down back and in the ruck.

I thought considering how much pressure was applied to our backs last thursday against WC.....that Rampe looked sharp and is an important player for us in 2014

If Shaw, ROK, Goodes are given a career type finish in 2014 (as the Swans generally provide their long serving players well with a grand finale season) i think we will find some of the players like Rampe and AJ and even LRT shifting around a little if we have most players fit and healthy !

For me Jetta still has so much to prove and BJ, Cunningham and Towers are just becoming serious serious competition for the HFF or wing possies

[Bleed Red Blood]

Without Tippett and Goodes we're a bit short up forward, so Derickx to add some height in the front half.

For mine if Derickx is in the team at all its gotta be as first ruck, allowing Pyke to play more minutes as a deep forward where he is very effective. Derickxs kicked all of two goals from 17 games for the Coburg Tigers in '13, where as he had that 60 hit out game one time. It's GWS, we will still break even in the midfield even if Mummy has a good game, may as well see what Derickx can do at AFL level early on.

[Ludwig]

i think AJ, LRT and Rampe will simply alternate starting down back most the season with LRT being able to upfront down back and in the ruck.

I thought considering how much pressure was applied to our backs last thursday against WC.....that Rampe looked sharp and is an important player for us in 2014

If Shaw, ROK, Goodes are given a career type finish in 2014 (as the Swans generally provide their long serving players well with a grand finale season) i think we will find some of the players like Rampe and AJ and even LRT shifting around a little if we have most players fit and healthy !

For me Jetta still has so much to prove and BJ, Cunningham and Towers are just becoming serious serious competition for the HFF or wing possies

Agree that Rampe has looked solid and will be hard to omit from the team. Difficult to say what LRT's role will be, especially given the uncertainty with Tippett at the moment. Doubt if Horse knows either.

ROK has said that he wants to play on beyond this season, and I with his fitness level, there's no reason why he can't.
Shaw is playing like someone with something to prove. Probably didn't like the talk about him being washed up. Has a big incentive to carry on with his brother playing in Sydney.
Goodes: ???

[707]

What's this discussion about Towers, have I missed something? From what I saw in the first two games, he only had a handful of cameos worthy of any note, I still have him as yet another likely first round potato!

[chuckie]

Surely they will play two ruckmen and not risk LRT who is coming back from a knee injury to be the second ruckman.
What is the go with Tippett's injury I hope its not one of those that gets reported as 2-3 weeks but turns into 10-12.

[Jewels]

Surely they will play two ruckmen and not risk LRT who is coming back from a knee injury to be the second ruckman.
What is the go with Tippett's injury I hope its not one of those that gets reported as 2-3 weeks but turns into 10-12.

Tendonitis, so who knows!
He was sitting all by himself at the game the other night, away from the rest of the resting players, looking very morose.

[wolftone57]

This is the latest injury list. I hope they aren't fudging.

Adam Goodes Knee 4-6 weeks
George Hewett Knee 1 week
Luke Parker Eye 1 week
Kurt Tippett Knee 3-4 weeks
Tommy Walsh* Hamstring Indefinite
Updated: Tuesday, March 4

That makes Tippett available in either round 2 or 3. Goodes anywhere from round 3-5. Lukie has to see a specialist this week so we will know more by Friday.

[ernie koala]

What's this discussion about Towers, have I missed something? From what I saw in the first two games, he only had a handful of cameos worthy of any note, I still have him as yet another likely first round potato!

I agree.

He shows tiny flashes, but that's it.

After loosing Lamb for nothing, another first round bust is not what the doctor ordered.

[Auntie.Gerald]

I think it is fair to say that our small forwards were in and out of the games so far in NAB and Intra ie Towers, Harry, BJ etc

For me when Dean Towers looks like he enjoys tackling as much as attacking then things will go to that next level.........that is the way of the swans and it is contested football. But Dean positionally looked alot stronger in the GWS game and I watched him closely the first two qtrs against the eagles and he looks more composed and decisive with his role

i think he will surprise a few this season as it sounds like BJ and Towers are contesting primarily for that HFF crumbing type roles........

The Swans love finding players to full fill a role and the HFF crumbing role is there for the taking if you are good enough and there could be even two if TomMitchell plays more midfield then HFF this season which i think he will

McGlynn - has been pushed back into the midfield rotation primarily it appears and confirmed by the coaches and Ben himself

Rohan - very much plays a leading forward role

Cunningham - it appears in preseason/intra club they are trying to push the kms into his legs and make him play more wing/midfield i suppose in part to cover for Jetta if injuries and or lack of fitness continue to make life hard for Lewis to get back in the 22...........but Harry is on the rise anyway and within a season or two could become a serious wing midfielder

[wolftone57]

I think it is fair to say that our small forwards were in and out of the games so far in NAB and Intra ie Towers, Harry, BJ etc

For me when Dean Towers looks like he enjoys tackling as much as attacking then things will go to that next level.........that is the way of the swans and it is contested football. But Dean positionally looked alot stronger in the GWS game and I watched him closely the first two qtrs against the eagles and he looks more composed and decisive with his role

i think he will surprise a few this season as it sounds like BJ and Towers are contesting primarily for that HFF crumbing type roles........

The Swans love finding players to full fill a role and the HFF crumbing role is there for the taking if you are good enough and there could be even two if TomMitchell plays more midfield then HFF this season which i think he will

McGlynn - has been pushed back into the midfield rotation primarily it appears and confirmed by the coaches and Ben himself

Rohan - very much plays a leading forward role

Cunningham - it appears in preseason/intra club they are trying to push the kms into his legs and make him play more wing/midfield i suppose in part to cover for Jetta if injuries and or lack of fitness continue to make life hard for Lewis to get back in the 22...........but Harry is on the rise anyway and within a season or two could become a serious wing midfielder

On the small forwards being in and out of the game in most of the preseason. What happens is that a small forward looks dangerous and the opposition shifts their best small option to them. They go out of the game with heavy checking and this frees up another small forward whose opponent is not seen as the best defensive option. This happened against GWS. Against Eagles we simply did not get the ball in there often enough and when we did the delivery was woeful. But under those conditions I thought the small forwards tried hard but were outnumbered at the fall of the ball every time. Plus it is difficult when your teammates upfield are kicking over your head onto your opponents chest.