2014 round 1 team vs GWS

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  • goods78
    Warming the Bench
    • Sep 2012
    • 269

    #76
    Originally posted by Reggi
    I think it is more than Rampe plays smaller. His strength is running. He played more on midfielders playing forward in the pre season. Laidler is a strong intercept mark, better overhead more physical player than Rampe. Their similar heights belythe fact that they aren't really similar players
    Thanks Reggi.

    I did not see much of him or take much notice when he played at his previous club. When his move was announced, I immediately pegged him as a depth player due to our strong defence......we will wait for the team sheet.

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    • GordonS
      On the Rookie List
      • May 2013
      • 129

      #77
      what's happened to biggs?? haven't heard a thing about him. seems odd since he played finals last year

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      • Matt80
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Sep 2013
        • 1802

        #78
        Originally posted by Ludwig
        Now Nick Smith is pumping up Laidler's tyres (from Swan website interview):

        Former Blue Laidler in particular has impressed Smith, who he suggested could fill the role vacated by Marty Mattner's injury-enforced retirement early in 2013.

        I don't know if this means that he's playing round 1 or they're just placating him when he has to play in the ressies.
        I'm not sure what is going with all this pumping up of Jeremy Laidler. It's coming from certain Swans players and is now being taken up by the RWO community!

        Have you all forgotten how good Dane Rampe is. He was not only the new Matner in 2013, but a great new addition to our back line! He will be a superb player for us if we give him time to develop!

        Laidler I'm sure will be handy, but Rampe and Alex Johnson when fit should be played ahead of Laidler!

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        • Flying South
          Regular in the Side
          • Sep 2013
          • 585

          #79
          My 2 bobs worth. Players need to know that form will be rewarded. Otherwise they lose faith and the whole club structure falls down. Cunningham has been sensational in the pre season so must be in the starting 21. Bird, Mitchell, Shaw, Reg have also been good. I don't believe in nursing players this early in the season. If you play, then you must be fit and do the job asked. LRT must play as a 3rd tall and also help out Pyke when required. Derickz shouldn't take another's deserved spot just because he can play 2nd ruck. I know team structure comes into things, but I believe you should earn your spot on merit. Jetta just takes the int spot because of the impact he can potentially make late in the game

          FB: LRT, Richards, Shaw
          HB: Smith, Grundy, Malceski
          C: McVeigh, Hannebery, Parker
          HF: Bird, Franklin, Cunningham
          FF: Rohan, Reid, O'Keefe
          R: Pyke, Kennedy, K Jack
          Int: Mitchell, McGlynn, Rampe
          Sub: Jetta

          Emerg: Laidler, Derickx, B Jack

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          • goods78
            Warming the Bench
            • Sep 2012
            • 269

            #80
            Originally posted by Matt80
            I'm not sure what is going with all this pumping up of Jeremy Laidler. It's coming from certain Swans players and is now being taken up by the RWO community!

            Have you all forgotten how good Dane Rampe is. He was not only the new Matner in 2013, but a great new addition to our back line! He will be a superb player for us if we give him time to develop!

            Laidler I'm sure will be handy, but Rampe and Alex Johnson when fit should be played ahead of Laidler!
            Ludwig correctly replied earlier to me that they can both play in the back line if one of the mid's goes out. I'm not sure that's going to happen with our star filled mid's. I still think they are fighting for the one spot in the regular season, although if you were to experiment it could be against GWS.

            I understand what the players are trying to do in pumping up Laidler, I think it is a little transparent.

            Rampe will be a solid AFL player - no need to convince me!

            On AJ......let's take team selection one week at a time!

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            • Matt80
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Sep 2013
              • 1802

              #81
              Originally posted by goods78
              Ludwig correctly replied earlier to me that they can both play in the back line if one of the mid's goes out. I'm not sure that's going to happen with our star filled mid's. I still think they are fighting for the one spot in the regular season, although if you were to experiment it could be against GWS.

              I understand what the players are trying to do in pumping up Laidler, I think it is a little transparent.

              Rampe will be a solid AFL player - no need to convince me!

              On AJ......let's take team selection one week at a time!
              Well said Goods78. I don't know how you can fit both Laidler and Rampe into the same side!

              Key Defenders - Richards, Grundy maybe LRT for periods

              Medium / Small Defenders - Rampe, Smith, Malceski, Shaw

              That is seven defenders if you have LRT down there. It becomes eight if you use Jarod McVeigh down there for periods as well!

              How does Jeremy Laidler fit into that defence?

              Could Ryce Shaw miss out to put Laidler in?

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              • ShockOfHair
                One Man Out
                • Dec 2007
                • 3668

                #82
                Originally posted by Matt80
                I'm not sure what is going with all this pumping up of Jeremy Laidler. It's coming from certain Swans players and is now being taken up by the RWO community!

                Have you all forgotten how good Dane Rampe is. He was not only the new Matner in 2013, but a great new addition to our back line! He will be a superb player for us if we give him time to develop!

                Laidler I'm sure will be handy, but Rampe and Alex Johnson when fit should be played ahead of Laidler!
                That Laidler is getting wraps from both Ted and Smithie is pretty significant. You'd think they'd know.

                Plus, if he's going to play A-grade, he needs a nickname. Ideas anyone?
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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16787

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Flying South
                  FB: LRT, Richards, Shaw
                  HB: Smith, Grundy, Malceski
                  C: McVeigh, Hannebery, Parker
                  HF: Bird, Franklin, Cunningham
                  FF: Rohan, Reid, O'Keefe
                  R: Pyke, Kennedy, K Jack
                  Int: Mitchell, McGlynn, Rampe
                  Sub: Jetta

                  Emerg: Laidler, Derickx, B Jack
                  I think that is probably close to the mark, with Laidler for Rampe the most probable alteration if there is going to be one.

                  It does get tricky when you try to insert Tippett and AJ into that team and, hopefully at some point, Goodsey too.

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    #84
                    I thought Flying South was on the mark as well. It's just the Laidler thing that's hard to work out.

                    I think we've got a 23 man side and I just can't pick who will be left out.

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                    • Reggi
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2718

                      #85
                      Longmire said in today's Smh article that you can play both
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                      • vincere
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 9

                        #86
                        Given rehab and a disrupted preseason, Pyke will need support and it would be foolish to put that extra demand on LRT, given he'll just be back from his own (longer) rehab. Of course, only fit players should play. But a return after a long lay-off also has to be managed. I hope Derrickx is in the 22.

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                        • liz
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                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16787

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Reggi
                          Longmire said in today's Smh article that you can play both
                          Of course you can play both. But then you've got to leave someone else out. Would that be Rohan? McGlynn? Mitchell? Or maybe toss up between McVeigh or Franklin...

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                          • ugg
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15976

                            #88
                            If LRT is named/playing in defence, then he can't really be available to relieve Pyke in the ruck, even for very short spells. Therefore this team needs another ruckman and Derickx would come into that hypothetical lineup. Who for? It would be harsh after his impressive pre-season form but I think Cunningham would be most likely to miss out.

                            If LRT named as a forward/ruck, that frees up a spot down back and that could go to Laidler, playing alongside Rampe.
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                            • Flying South
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 585

                              #89
                              Fair point Ugg. Perhaps this is where Reid the swing man comes into play. Pyke can rest forward, LRT into ruck and Reid swings down back. I'm reluctant to drop a loyal servant.

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                              • Ludwig
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                #90
                                Originally posted by ugg
                                If LRT is named/playing in defence, then he can't really be available to relieve Pyke in the ruck, even for very short spells. Therefore this team needs another ruckman and Derickx would come into that hypothetical lineup. Who for? It would be harsh after his impressive pre-season form but I think Cunningham would be most likely to miss out.

                                If LRT named as a forward/ruck, that frees up a spot down back and that could go to Laidler, playing alongside Rampe.
                                If LRT does play in defence, Reid can cover for him when he relieves Pyke in the ruck.

                                V. GWS: LRT can play forward as there will likely be only 2 key forwards in their side. Giles has been playing in defence in the preseason, so I would imagine that will be the matchup.

                                v. Collingwood: LRT can play in defence on Jesse White and go with him all over the ground, matching up with him in the ruck as well. Pyke can probably outlast Grundy in the ruck so may even play a bit vs. White.

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