Round 2 2014, @sydneyswans v Magpies

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  • 707
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2009
    • 6204

    #16
    Originally posted by aardvark
    Saints win makes our GWS loss look even worse. Pies by 36.
    IMO Saints are wooden spooners so just makes you wonder how the hell we let GWS beat us! If form line holds true then we can't win tonight but I'm very much hoping that R1 was an abberation.

    I must say that watching Hawthorn, Essendon and just now Port Adelaide makes me wonder if our ball movement is sharp enough to be a contender. Please please play really well and win tonight Swans (please)!

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    • Swansinger
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2003
      • 1099

      #17
      Oh , nearly forgot - any progress with diversifying the chanting ? You know , something a bit more than "short Sydney" and "long Sydney" ?
      Obviously with Jude and Mummy gone , we have lost two players who'd been honoured with songs.

      I'm struggling with any positive creativity , but here's what I will be directing at the Pies tonight :

      1)Nick-y Mx-well , Nick-y Maxwell , you're not captain any more ...aneee morreee... you're not captain any more ! (Bread of Heaven)

      and of course :

      2)La-La Mumba - Para Bailar La Mumba - se necessita una poca de gracia !


      I intend to get my whole aisle rockin' and joining in.
      But if they don't - well , I've never been scared of going it alone

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      • DeadlyAkkuret
        Veterans List
        • Oct 2006
        • 4547

        #18
        Originally posted by aardvark
        Saints win makes our GWS loss look even worse. Pies by 36.
        Did you think GWS were good before today?

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        • aardvark
          Veterans List
          • Mar 2010
          • 5685

          #19
          Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
          Did you think GWS were good before today?
          I tipped them to beat St Kilda comfortably....

          Robbo's rant.....

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          • Melbournehammer
            Senior Player
            • May 2007
            • 1815

            #20
            No, but we knew the saints were really really bad.

            Based on that the swans are in trouble.

            707s comments are correct IMHO - our ball movement has been very poor for about eight months. We convinced ourselves it was the injuries in 2013. It will be fascinating to see whether we can rise above that or whether goodes and the scg have been masking a team low in skills...

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            • DeadlyAkkuret
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              • Oct 2006
              • 4547

              #21
              Originally posted by Melbournehammer
              No, but we knew the saints were really really bad.

              Based on that the swans are in trouble.

              707s comments are correct IMHO - our ball movement has been very poor for about eight months. We convinced ourselves it was the injuries in 2013. It will be fascinating to see whether we can rise above that or whether goodes and the scg have been masking a team low in skills...
              You can't use the GWS beat Sydney, Saints beat GWS, therefore Saints >>>> Sydney logic.

              It's extremely flawed. I can't believe the hyperbole our loss has created for two weeks. Every time a new teams wins the fickle fans proclaim that we're now behind that team.

              It's a joke.

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              • aardvark
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                • Mar 2010
                • 5685

                #22
                [QUOTE=DeadlyAkkuret;635780]You can't use the GWS beat Sydney, Saints beat GWS, therefore Saints >>>> Sydney logic./QUOTE]

                I don't think we're saying that. We are just saying that the Saints beating GWS emphasises how bad our loss to GWS was.
                Tonight will prove if we can still compete with the best or we really do have major problems.

                Read the article I linked before from Robbo. Its very interesting reading.

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                • Matt80
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 1802

                  #23
                  I watched some of the St Kilda V GWS game and have the following observations:

                  - They ran out of gas in the second half, leading to the conclusion that those two half time length breaks that they had V Swans helped them to run out the Swans game. On the flip side the Swans had the same amount of break time as GWS.

                  - GWS will emotionally lift themselves for Swans games, but won't be able to sustain that over a season. You suspect that the GWS players will be satisfied if they achieve two wins in 2014, as long as their second win is against the Swans.

                  - The Saints are better than a lot of us thought, emphasising that this is one of the closest competitions in years. The first three games of this round have been decided by margins of less than 10 points. There will be some good football teams who will complete the season placed in 9 - 14 spot.

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                  • dimelb
                    pr. dim-melb; m not f
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 6889

                    #24
                    I think GWS was without Phil Davis, which is a serious loss, and that neither of their big power forwards kicked straight; if they had, it would have been a win to GWS.
                    And what ever one thinks of the Saints, it never does to underestimate Nick Riewoldt.
                    I hope we fulfil our destiny tonight and beat Collingwood convincingly.
                    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                    • Melbournehammer
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2007
                      • 1815

                      #25
                      Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
                      You can't use the GWS beat Sydney, Saints beat GWS, therefore Saints >>>> Sydney logic.

                      It's extremely flawed. I can't believe the hyperbole our loss has created for two weeks. Every time a new teams wins the fickle fans proclaim that we're now behind that team.

                      It's a joke.
                      That's fine. Which loss do you want to look at ? Port in Adelaide ? Collingwood at Anz after scoring the first 4/5 goals ? Freo ? Hawthorn ? Geelong ?

                      Which convincing win do you want to look at ?

                      I think we have been struggling. It's not hyperbole

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                      • billyboob
                        On the Rookie List
                        • May 2012
                        • 220

                        #26
                        Originally posted by aardvark
                        Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
                        You can't use the GWS beat Sydney, Saints beat GWS, therefore Saints >>>> Sydney logic.
                        I don't think we're saying that. We are just saying that the Saints beating GWS emphasises how bad our loss to GWS was.
                        Tonight will prove if we can still compete with the best or we really do have major problems.

                        Read the article I linked before from Robbo. Its very interesting reading.
                        No it's not.

                        He misidentifies the reason out defense has been a bit down. Not one mention of AJ or Mattner at all. We lose almost half a backline that got us to a GF but none of that matters because he has to get back to rumour mongering like he spent the first half of the article doing.

                        Massive douche bagginess right there.

                        EDIT: It sucks that this depressing .... is cropping up in a match day thread and it's worse I felt the need to respond. Apologies.
                        Last edited by billyboob; 29 March 2014, 05:29 PM.

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                          • Jan 2003
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                          #27
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                          • Melbournehammer
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2007
                            • 1815

                            #28
                            Originally posted by billyboob
                            No it's not.

                            He misidentifies the reason out defense has been a bit down. Not one mention of AJ or Mattner at all. We lose almost half a backline that got us to a GF but none of that matters because he has to get back to rumour mongering like he spent the first half of the article doing.

                            Massive douche bagginess right there.

                            EDIT: It sucks that this depressing .... is cropping up in a match day thread and it's worse I felt the need to respond. Apologies.
                            Doesn't that reinforce his point that whatever concerns exist off the field are substantially worse on it ? We have lost critical players and haven't coped with it. We are losing around the contest and our game plan revolves around forcing contests from 40:60 positions.

                            The absence of Tippett reinforces this - he kicked a lot of goals for us as a ff. we lobbed it onto his head and he did brilliantly - but he might be out for a further 2-3 rounds.

                            Make no mistake this game is critical against an ordinary collingwood team. We just have to show we are more than a kick it long team. We have to show we can honor leads and transition the ball quickly through the midfield

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                            • neilfws
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1836

                              #29
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                              • Ludwig
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                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                #30
                                Looks to be another 1st quarter rain on the way based on the radar.

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