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  • Primmy
    Proud Tragic Swan
    • Apr 2008
    • 5970

    Actually I'd really love to see Benny rucking......Might Mouse taking on the Big Boys......oh and that oohahh mark over him by the Melbourne bloke, which had all the commentators whoopty doing !! Really?? Even I could leap frog Benny!
    If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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    • magic.merkin
      Senior Player
      • Jul 2008
      • 1199

      Originally posted by Primmy
      Mummy has had 2 games since getting to the little brothers. Knee. Again.

      I don't understand the slagging off of TD. He is a ruckman delisted from Richmond ! for Pete's sake and in his first year under the guidance of the Ruck Whisperer. It takes years to develop. He gets to contests, has kicked goals, puts in, risen in value in my dream team. What more do you want? Blood? Well you got that too, courtesy of Jetts.

      As for looking slight. - MikyPyke has lost volume to fit the mould. Speaking of which, who else do you have in mind to do TD 's job? Hmm? At present you have a choice of one. So stop this narkiness and support a Swan.
      Stop all that common sense! And yes Mummy proving to be brittle again. Poor bugger.

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      Originally posted by Primmy
      Actually I'd really love to see Benny rucking......Might Mouse taking on the Big Boys......oh and that oohahh mark over him by the Melbourne bloke, which had all the commentators whoopty doing !! Really?? Even I could leap frog Benny!
      I know! Benny is 5 foot nothing and it wasn't even that much height over him!

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      • Matt80
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Sep 2013
        • 1802

        Originally posted by Primmy
        Mummy has had 2 games since getting to the little brothers. Knee. Again.

        I don't understand the slagging off of TD. He is a ruckman delisted from Richmond ! for Pete's sake and in his first year under the guidance of the Ruck Whisperer. It takes years to develop. He gets to contests, has kicked goals, puts in, risen in value in my dream team. What more do you want? Blood? Well you got that too, courtesy of Jetts.

        As for looking slight. - MikyPyke has lost volume to fit the mould. Speaking of which, who else do you have in mind to do TD 's job? Hmm? At present you have a choice of one. So stop this narkiness and support a Swan.
        Agree Primmy that the slagging off of Tom D is wrong. In the Daily Mail Bondi Beach article he is described as an AFL Star. It's also apparent that he is a huge celebrity overseas. Show some respect people!

        He is fighting to preserve the Bondi Beach Sydney Swans dream and he won't let it slip.

        I expect him to keep improving !

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        • DamY
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2011
          • 1479

          Tom D is doing his job. Nank isn't ready. Naismith is injured. Paddy Mitchell has played the sport for less than a year. LRT isn't setting the world on fire. Tommy D stays.

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          • Auntie.Gerald
            Veterans List
            • Oct 2009
            • 6480

            yeah it is funny how there is always, every year, without fail, a player or two in a team that is scorched by blind rage from "supporters"

            I fell into the trap saying Watts just doesnt look keen to be out on the footy field at all and should consider another path..........

            We all do it or as a minimum think it........some less then others thank goodness !

            I havent jumped on the bandwagon of the frustration with TD.....Tom is playing a role for our team to function against some better opposite numbers and doing it well enough
            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              Tom Derickx is our second best ruckman atm, but he's starting from a level a couple of notches below Mark Seaby IMO, who took plenty on flack on this site. He probably will improve due to the benefit of a new coach and senior experience. I don't want to predict the outcome, but he just doesn't look an AFL footballer (on field), and he's got a way to go to reach that level.

              Most teams will play 2 ruckmen if both are good, otherwise the second ruckman doesn't add enough to the side by giving the number one ruckman a bit of relief. I think we fall into the 2nd category. Derickx and LRT have been holding a place for injured forwards and doubt they will be in the side once we get them all back, or even 3 out of 4. They have to go out, because there's no place for them in the structure.

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              • Doctor
                Bay 29
                • Sep 2003
                • 2757

                Originally posted by DamY
                Tom D is doing his job. Nank isn't ready. Naismith is injured. Paddy Mitchell has played the sport for less than a year. LRT isn't setting the world on fire. Tommy D stays.
                Well said. Give that man a cigar!
                Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                • DamY
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 1479

                  And a Heineken!! See you at the Members Bar at ANZ!

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                  • Matt80
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 1802

                    Originally posted by Ludwig
                    Tom Derickx is our second best ruckman atm, but he's starting from a level a couple of notches below Mark Seaby IMO, who took plenty on flack on this site. He probably will improve due to the benefit of a new coach and senior experience. I don't want to predict the outcome, but he just doesn't look an AFL footballer (on field), and he's got a way to go to reach that level.

                    Most teams will play 2 ruckmen if both are good, otherwise the second ruckman doesn't add enough to the side by giving the number one ruckman a bit of relief. I think we fall into the 2nd category. Derickx and LRT have been holding a place for injured forwards and doubt they will be in the side once we get them all back, or even 3 out of 4. They have to go out, because there's no place for them in the structure.
                    Our second best ruckman or probably best ruckman is Tippett. The best balance for the team is for him to be second ruck doing between 30 - 40% of the work.

                    Without him doing that, the team will be carrying one rucking tall too many.

                    People on this forum are very against Tippett doing any ruck work and I don't understand why.

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                    • Reggi
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2718

                      Originally posted by Matt80
                      Our second best ruckman or probably best ruckman is Tippett. The best balance for the team is for him to be second ruck doing between 30 - 40% of the work.

                      Without him doing that, the team will be carrying one rucking tall too many.

                      People on this forum are very against Tippett doing any ruck work and I don't understand why.
                      Because it makes no sense to pay a bloke $800k a year to jump into other blokes.

                      One of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard
                      You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                      • aguy
                        Senior Player
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 1324

                        Originally posted by Matt80
                        Our second best ruckman or probably best ruckman is Tippett. The best balance for the team is for him to be second ruck doing between 30 - 40% of the work.

                        Without him doing that, the team will be carrying one rucking tall too many.

                        People on this forum are very against Tippett doing any ruck work and I don't understand why.
                        Against him rucking at the moment because his knee is too close to recent injury not to mention his chest injury to risk him being In the ruck

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                        • 0918330512
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 1654

                          Originally posted by Reggi
                          Because it makes no sense to pay a bloke $800k a year to jump into other blokes.

                          One of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard
                          Harsh ... but true.

                          To be honest, I personally feel that Tippett, to date, is still more potential & promise than proven performance (either as a forward or a ruckman).

                          He's had some good games as a forward, but not consistently a dominating power forward that his size & athleticism warrants ... yet. & is solid as a ruckman but hasn't dominated the contests in the middle (Pyke has at times though).

                          Horse recruited Tippett as a mobile power forward forward. Get him healthy and use him as such.

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                          • Ludwig
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9359

                            Originally posted by Reggi
                            Because it makes no sense to pay a bloke $800k a year to jump into other blokes.

                            One of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard


                            $650 (Mummy) should be the maximum.

                            NicNat looking for a mil. You gotta be kiddin'.

                            What are Cox and Sandi worth to jump into players? Definitely overpaid.

                            We should tell Tippo, if he comes within 10 metres of a ruck contest, we're cutting his salary. And no marking contests either. Look what happened the last time he tried that. He cracked a rib. Can't have that. It's dangerous out there. And that goes double for Buddy. He could fall on his bad knee again. The only safe place for these fragile overpaid pansies is the Long Term Injury List.

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                            • Auntie.Gerald
                              Veterans List
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6480

                              The tip is on a 2 year deal and ends 2014 !

                              I wonder what happens next now that Buddy signed on

                              Tip got paid an awesome amount for two years........over and above his average annual salary original deal........???

                              I think Tip was awesome for the 11 or 12 games..........and so many of the big guys run into injuries and this one is only tendinitis !

                              Given that he will be on more like $600k pa for season s 2015 and 2016 i think the Tip is worth keep for sure !

                              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                              • Matt80
                                Suspended by the MRP
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 1802

                                Originally posted by Reggi
                                Because it makes no sense to pay a bloke $800k a year to jump into other blokes.

                                One of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard
                                Okay! With no rucking from Tippett, then you need LRT or Tom D to remain in the side, but you can't have Cunningham or Craig Bird in the forward line because there is no room!

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