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  • Gezball
    Warming the Bench
    • Mar 2010
    • 244

    I'm surprised Mitchell wasn't promoted

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    • Industrial Fan
      Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
      • Aug 2006
      • 3318

      Originally posted by stellation
      Great point on it being hard to crack a gig with those two, I hadn't really thought too much about how consistent Reg and Ted have been and just had a quick squiz- for the last 5 seasons (including this one) they've only missed a combined 16 out of 104 games- and that's mainly because of Ted missing 10 way back in 2010.
      Year/Swans Total/Heath/Ted
      2014: 6 H06 T06
      2013: 25 H25 T25
      2012: 25 H24 T25
      2011: 24 H20 T23
      2010: 24 H24 T14
      Was the 2010 shortfall due to Ted being on the fringes rather than injury?
      He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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      • 707
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2009
        • 6204

        Originally posted by Gezball
        I'm surprised Mitchell wasn't promoted
        I think at last there is some sense in selections.

        BJ whilst not tearing it up in the ressies has real pace is a more likely genuine small forward as he matures. We lack a pacy small forward, the position is his IMO if he can step up.

        Mitchell is a gun in the making but doesn't have pace and there are only so many of those you can carry in a midfield without getting exposed. He is best 22 going forward, just not in this week for team balance I reckon.

        That is why I think ROK and LRT will see limited games this year and Derickx is on borrowed time once/if the full compliment of talls gets on the paddock.

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        • Nico
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 11343

          BJ didn't tear it up in the ones either. No point having pace if can't find the pill and when you do, butcher it. People said last year that he was ahead of his brother at tghis stage of his career. Gone backwards this year. Why would you give Lloyd the vest when he finds the footy and most times delivers. Much harder nut than BJ. On Michell with no pace: lets put him on the market at years end and see 17 other clubs lining up to snare him. Absolute folly to put the slows on him for that reason. Then again I suppose Carlton originally had the same thoughts about Diesel Williams. Mitchell had a couple of average games: so what his average stats last year say that is only a hiccup.
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          • Nico
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 11343

            Originally posted by 707
            I think at last there is some sense in selections.

            BJ whilst not tearing it up in the ressies has real pace is a more likely genuine small forward as he matures. We lack a pacy small forward, the position is his IMO if he can step up.

            Mitchell is a gun in the making but doesn't have pace and there are only so many of those you can carry in a midfield without getting exposed. He is best 22 going forward, just not in this week for team balance I reckon.

            That is why I think ROK and LRT will see limited games this year and Derickx is on borrowed time once/if the full compliment of talls gets on the paddock.
            So who are all the "slows" in the midfield. Kj could find a few more yards; never been quick for mine, if Kennedy found another yard he would get 50 stats a game, yeh, McVeigh seems to have lost 10 metres this year (drop him), Parker, well he should be getting at least another 10 stats a game, Jetta has bulked up and lost heaps of pace and should be confined to the HFF and lets not forget McGlynn who seems to have lost all semblence of speed. Back to the Hawks for him. And ROK, well the man has never been quick and where does the notion come from the LRT has been quick and when was the last time he played in the midfield. Poor old TD is on borrowed time while we wait for our lightening quick boys in the 2's to blossom overnight into gazelle type ruckmen who can leap leap tall buildings and run at the pace of a speeding bullett. We could throw Reece Shaw in there but most have labelled him over the hill but why would we do that with an old man who is now running in reverse.

            Give me a spell, please.
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            • ernie koala
              Senior Player
              • May 2007
              • 3251

              3 genuinely quick players in the side...Jetta, Cunningham and B Jack.

              Could it be a clue to a late change....ie : OUT :K Jack (ribs, or should I say "back spasms"), IN :Mitchell
              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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              • ugg
                Can you feel it?
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 15976

                You're being really harsh on some players there. It's like you're expecting a team full of Usain Bolts
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                • Nico
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 11343

                  Originally posted by ernie koala
                  3 genuinely quick players in the side...Jetta, Cunningham and B Jack.

                  Could it be a clue to a late change....ie : OUT :K Jack (ribs, or should I say "back spasms"), IN :Mitchell
                  Must apologise Ernie, I forgot Cunningham. Not enough professional running in the off season.
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                  • Matt80
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 1802

                    The team will be better if we could get Garry Rohan back with confidence. I thought after that preseason game against West Coat that he was primed for a good season.

                    I look at someone like Ryce Shaw who has supreme confidence in his dashing ability and hope that Garry can find the same confidence. Ryce has pace, but Garry would beat him in a sprint.

                    I see a future with Garry Rohan, Dane Rampe, Alire Alire and Alex Johnson providing thunderous dash out of the back line and being a very dangerous proposition!

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                    • Swanny40519
                      Regular in the side.
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 469

                      I am not surprised to see LRT not in the team. This year he really has struggled to make an impression in a team that has struggled with its own form. I have been a fan of LRT for years and witnessed first hand what a great game he played in 2012, but for a lot of reasons 2014 has not been good for him. I think this will be his last season.

                      I think that Mitchell should have played in place of Jack and keep him rested for next week.

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                      • Nico
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 11343

                        Originally posted by Matt80
                        The team will be better if we could get Garry Rohan back with confidence. I thought after that preseason game against West Coat that he was primed for a good season.

                        I look at someone like Ryce Shaw who has supreme confidence in his dashing ability and hope that Garry can find the same confidence. Ryce has pace, but Garry would beat him in a sprint.

                        I see a future with Garry Rohan, Dane Rampe, Alire Alire and Alex Johnson providing thunderous dash out of the back line and being a very dangerous proposition!
                        Matty, maybe he will never deliver his potential given the horrible injury.
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                        • Matt80
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 1802

                          I think we have seen glimpses that he can recover his best. One or two things a game:

                          - That first physical contest that he bravely went into against Geelong last year.
                          - Those two goals against the Hawks in the final home and away game last year.
                          - Performance against the Docker's in the Prelim.
                          - Those long goals he hit against West Coast in the pre season game.
                          - That goal on the run that he hit against Crows as Sub.

                          It's two years since the injury and confidence seems to be the impediment. I've heard people say that things get better once the pins come out of the leg. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Rohan's pins may come out at the end of the year?

                          From my observations Rohan looks like he is finding it hard to get enough ball. I'm not sure if he is reading the play correctly. When the ball is 10 metres near him he seems to make an impact defensively and sometimes offensively.

                          I'm glad is playing off half back in the reserves. I think that gives him a good starting point. I have proposed before for him to be used as a defensive tagger like Crowley, but I think he still gets nerve pain and as a result the endurance is not there.

                          He is contracted and it's important for the team that he comes good. A fast team of Cunningham, Rohan, Jetta and B. Jack in form will be a dangerous proposition to go with our key forwards and strong midfield.

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                          • Melbourne_Blood
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2010
                            • 3312

                            I would leave Rohan in the reserves for a while. Give him some time to build up some real confidence in his leg and his ability and when he's kicking down the door, then bring him back. Most players take around two + years to get back to their best after leg breaks , Morris, Barlow etc. some never get back to their best. Gaz has yet to even discover what his best footy is!

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                            • jono2707
                              Goes up to 11
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 3326

                              Originally posted by Nico
                              Matty, maybe he will never deliver his potential given the horrible injury.
                              The Broncos' winger Jharal Yow Yeh was forced into retirement earlier this year due to being unable to recover from a break similar to Gazza's that occurred at a similar time. Very sad as he was a top-notch NRL player. The fact that Gazza is back playing at all is still great news. Give him time.

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                              • magic.merkin
                                Senior Player
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 1199

                                Originally posted by ugg
                                You're being really harsh on some players there. It's like you're expecting a team full of Usain Bolts
                                Its as if we don't want footballers first and foremost?

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