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  • goswannies
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2007
    • 3052

    Originally posted by Matt80
    I think we have seen glimpses that he can recover his best. One or two things a game:

    - That first physical contest that he bravely went into against Geelong last year.
    - Those two goals against the Hawks in the final home and away game last year.
    - Performance against the Docker's in the Prelim.
    - Those long goals he hit against West Coast in the pre season game.
    - That goal on the run that he hit against Crows as Sub..
    There is a considerable difference between a few minutes of brilliance in a game, and playing brilliantly most of the game regularly.


    Originally posted by jono2707
    The Broncos' winger Jharal Yow Yeh was forced into retirement earlier this year due to being unable to recover from a break similar to Gazza's that occurred at a similar time. Very sad as he was a top-notch NRL player. The fact that Gazza is back playing at all is still great news.
    That's a pretty realistic view. Horrific leg fractures unfortunately often change players. Psychologically, physically. Our very own Jamie Lawson of the mid 90s never came back.
    Nathan Brown did resume his career after his fracture at Richomnd, but was never quite the same, slower and always in pain. But commendably, did come back & earned his place in the side.
    As compound tibial fractures are natoriotrously slow & painful healers. Gazz's improvement will hopefully see him worthy of senior selection & earn his place in the side on merit (hard work, ability & performance), but to expect him to realize the potential he had before the break might be a bit much.

    Originally posted by Matt80
    It's two years since the injury and confidence seems to be the impediment. I've heard people say that things get better once the pins come out of the leg. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Rohan's pins may come out at the end of the year?
    Firstly pins, plate and/or nails are not always removed. That decision is based on symptoms & healing rates. Secondly removing the metal doesn't guarantee comfort. If the pain is related to neural mechanisms, compartment syndrome, soft tissue trauma to the surrounding muscle or fascia as a result of the initial compound fracture, then taking out metal doesn't change that too much. If the metal is prominent & directly affecting adjacent tissue, removal does help. If the presence of metal is impeding the final part of union & remodeling of the bone (which is evident on x-rays) then removing the metal will potentially aid that too. But there is no certainty it completely relieves comfort levels or improves performance.

    Originally posted by Matt80
    He is contracted and it's important for the team that he comes good. A fast team of Cunningham, Rohan, Jetta and B. Jack in form will be a dangerous proposition to go with our key forwards and strong midfield.
    For me it's important that HE gets better. Tibial compound fractures are nasty, life impacting injuries.
    It must be realized he might never be as quick as he was. His agility might be impaired markedly with proprioceptive changes. Only time will tell.
    However a mere mortal Gary Rohan (who never achieves his pre-fracture potential) will hopefully still be worthy of senior selection on his current merits. Give him time, not pressure & expectation.
    Last edited by goswannies; 2 May 2014, 09:47 AM.

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    • CJK
      Human
      • Apr 2006
      • 2170

      We're playing the Lions so this is rivalry round?

      (lolololol)
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      • 0918330512
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2011
        • 1654

        Originally posted by CJK
        We're playing the Lions so this is rivalry round?

        (lolololol)
        Star Wars round (Sunday, May the 4th - Be With You) ... are they going to put out Star Wars AFL t-shirts, does anyone know??

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        Originally posted by ugg
        You're being really harsh on some players there. It's like you're expecting a team full of Usain Bolts
        I'd settle for the footy smarts of Jude Bolts & Craig Bolts

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        • goswannies
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2007
          • 3052

          Originally posted by 09183305
          Star Wars round (Sunday, May the 4th - Be With You) ... are they going to put out Star Wars AFL t-shirts, does anyone know??
          If it is indeed Star Wars round, it's great to see Jake "Anakin Skywalker" Lloyd get a game during this round. HE should be on a t-shirt for this round!

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          • dimelb
            pr. dim-melb; m not f
            • Jun 2003
            • 6889

            Originally posted by 09183305
            Star Wars round (Sunday, May the 4th - Be With You) ... are they going to put out Star Wars AFL t-shirts, does anyone know??
            That's a clever pun!
            From a parallel universe, live long and prosper.
            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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            • wolftone57
              Veterans List
              • Aug 2008
              • 5861

              Originally posted by Industrial Fan
              Was the 2010 shortfall due to Ted being on the fringes rather than injury?
              In 2010 Ted had a real form slump and he went back to the twos and rethought his defensive work. He got footage of all the best key defenders to see where he was going wrong and what they could teach him. He learnt well. He came back with a better attitude and with a much sharper and more comprehensive defensive game.

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              • dimelb
                pr. dim-melb; m not f
                • Jun 2003
                • 6889

                Originally posted by wolftone57
                In 2010 Ted had a real form slump and he went back to the twos and rethought his defensive work. He got footage of all the best key defenders to see where he was going wrong and what they could teach him. He learnt well. He came back with a better attitude and with a much sharper and more comprehensive defensive game.
                He also decided he needed to add a few kilos to handle the bigger blokes. Thorough our Ted, from realisation to planning to execution. A wonderful asset.
                He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                • goswannies
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 3052

                  Originally posted by goswannies
                  If it is indeed Star Wars round, it's great to see Jake "Anakin Skywalker" Lloyd get a game during this round. HE should be on a t-shirt for this round!
                  If I was a t-shirt designer ....

                   photo AFLStarWarsRound-Round7-2014_zpsa0fd2a80.jpg

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                  • CJK
                    Human
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 2170

                    That's amazing. Well done!

                    (aside from the horrible Ep1 flashbacks I'm having)
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                    • goswannies
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 3052

                      Originally posted by CJK
                      That's amazing. Well done!
                      Thanks! I was happy with it ... given I spent the last 9 minutes working on it

                      If they don't put out an official t-shirt, I might get one made just for myself

                      Edit: no need to make my own! 3 different Star Wars Swans tees on the Swanshop site $40 for adults, $35 for kids

                      https://swanshop.onesporttechnology.com

                      Originally posted by CJK
                      (aside from the horrible Ep1 flashbacks I'm having)
                      Soooo, not putting Dec 18, 2015 in your diary for the release of Episode 7?
                      Last edited by goswannies; 2 May 2014, 02:20 PM.

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                      • Matt80
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 1802

                        Originally posted by goswannies
                        There is a considerable difference between a few minutes of brilliance in a game, and playing brilliantly most of the game regularly.




                        That's a pretty realistic view. Horrific leg fractures unfortunately often change players. Psychologically, physically. Our very own Jamie Lawson of the mid 90s never came back.
                        Nathan Brown did resume his career after his fracture at Richomnd, but was never quite the same, slower and always in pain. But commendably, did come back & earned his place in the side.
                        As compound tibial fractures are natoriotrously slow & painful healers. Gazz's improvement will hopefully see him worthy of senior selection & earn his place in the side on merit (hard work, ability & performance), but to expect him to realize the potential he had before the break might be a bit much.



                        Firstly pins, plate and/or nails are not always removed. That decision is based on symptoms & healing rates. Secondly removing the metal doesn't guarantee comfort. If the pain is related to neural mechanisms, compartment syndrome, soft tissue trauma to the surrounding muscle or fascia as a result of the initial compound fracture, then taking out metal doesn't change that too much. If the metal is prominent & directly affecting adjacent tissue, removal does help. If the presence of metal is impeding the final part of union & remodeling of the bone (which is evident on x-rays) then removing the metal will potentially aid that too. But there is no certainty it completely relieves comfort levels or improves performance.



                        For me it's important that HE gets better. Tibial compound fractures are nasty, life impacting injuries.
                        It must be realized he might never be as quick as he was. His agility might be impaired markedly with proprioceptive changes. Only time will tell.
                        However a mere mortal Gary Rohan (who never achieves his pre-fracture potential) will hopefully still be worthy of senior selection on his current merits. Give him time, not pressure & expectation.
                        Wonderful post and thank you for answering my questions. I was watching that first quarter against Geelong at Skilled last year where we saw Garry take a well judged hi
                        mark and then throw himself into a brutal one on one physical contest. I thought after seeing that quarter he would be okay, but he drifted away as the game went on.

                        He is a determined young man and I hope he comes good. Buddy certainly thinks he has a lot to offer.

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                        • baskin
                          Long Term Injury List
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 286

                          Originally posted by 09183305
                          Star Wars round (Sunday, May the 4th - Be With You) ... are they going to put out Star Wars AFL t-shirts, does anyone know??

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                          I'd settle for the footy smarts of Jude Bolts & Craig Bolts
                          Melboure FC have Star Wars t-shirts, they were advertised in last week's Football Record!

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                          • goswannies
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 3052

                            Originally posted by baskin
                            Melboure FC have Star Wars t-shirts, they were advertised in last week's Football Record!
                            Swans shop has them too (all clubs have the same design I'm pretty sure)

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                            • ugg
                              Can you feel it?
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15976

                              Great work goswannies
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                              • mcs
                                Travelling Swannie!!
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 8177

                                Originally posted by goswannies
                                If I was a t-shirt designer ....

                                 photo AFLStarWarsRound-Round7-2014_zpsa0fd2a80.jpg

                                Very nice. I like the current ones the Swanshop have, going to have to get me one I think
                                "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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