Hannebery's "Bump"

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  • Swansongster
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2008
    • 1264

    #61
    It's going to be a big call either way. You can be guaranteed that there will be polar reactions from pundits and fans whichever way it goes.

    Pretty sure it will be appealed by Swans if one week or more is found to be the penalty and there will be cries of favourtism if a reprimand or less is handed down.

    When can we expect the MRP to deliberate and communicate their findings?

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    • stellation
      scott names the planets
      • Sep 2003
      • 9720

      #62
      Originally posted by Reggi
      No free he ducked his head definitely into the contact. If he hadn't of ducked into it there would never have been contact
      He certainly seemed to be looking for contact, but he'd had his head down for a while before it was made. I would have had no issue with him being paid a free there.
      I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
      We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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      • Reggi
        On the Rookie List
        • Jan 2003
        • 2718

        #63
        I do. Hanners would not have hit him high at all if he hadn't ducked into him to draw the free. If they paynthosevfrees more guys will do it
        You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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        • ugg
          Can you feel it?
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          • Jan 2003
          • 15970

          #64
          Hurley had his head down because he had fumbled the ball and was looking to re-gather, probably with a smidgin of panic in his actions. I believe the rule is if you have the ball and then duck your head and draw contact you don't get a free, but if you've put your head down while attempting to gather the ball and then get taken high, you're entitled to a free and I believe that was what Hurley's situation was.
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          • longmile
            Crumber
            • Apr 2011
            • 3365

            #65
            I think you are spot on there Ugg

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            • Reggi
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              • Jan 2003
              • 2718

              #66
              Originally posted by ugg
              Hurley had his head down because he had fumbled the ball and was looking to re-gather, probably with a smidgin of panic in his actions. I believe the rule is if you have the ball and then duck your head and draw contact you don't get a free, but if you've put your head down while attempting to gather the ball and then get taken high, you're entitled to a free and I believe that was what Hurley's situation was.
              Logical, but whe you watch it, he is half up and ducks into Hanners
              You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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              • Ludwig
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                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                #67
                Originally posted by ugg
                Hurley had his head down because he had fumbled the ball and was looking to re-gather, probably with a smidgin of panic in his actions. I believe the rule is if you have the ball and then duck your head and draw contact you don't get a free, but if you've put your head down while attempting to gather the ball and then get taken high, you're entitled to a free and I believe that was what Hurley's situation was.
                This is probably correct, but you often see the ball bounce and roll quite a long way. So theoretically, a player can follow the ball with his head down for 30 odd metres and no one can touch him. The opposition could only let the player through, then follow the player until he took possession and then try to tackle.

                In this case Hurley fumbled the ball. But suppose he tapped the ball forward and followed it with head down. A skillful player can control the ball and move it forward without taking possession, keep the head over the ball, and form a vortex of invincibility in front of him.

                It's a bit of a crazy situation. You have to allow a player to reasonably contest the ball without the certainty of being suspended.

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                • ugg
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15970

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Reggi
                  Logical, but whe you watch it, he is half up and ducks into Hanners
                  I've just looked at it again and I can't agree. I even think that he doesn't even notice Hanners at all, otherwise he would have performed some instinctive protective manoeuvre.
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                  • ugg
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                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15970

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Ludwig
                    This is probably correct, but you often see the ball bounce and roll quite a long way. So theoretically, a player can follow the ball with his head down for 30 odd metres and no one can touch him. The opposition could only let the player through, then follow the player until he took possession and then try to tackle.

                    In this case Hurley fumbled the ball. But suppose he tapped the ball forward and followed it with head down. A skillful player can control the ball and move it forward without taking possession, keep the head over the ball, and form a vortex of invincibility in front of him.

                    It's a bit of a crazy situation. You have to allow a player to reasonably contest the ball without the certainty of being suspended.
                    I wasn't talking about the possibility of a suspension, it was just in reference to whether a free kick should be paid.
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                    • ScottH
                      It's Goodes to cheer!!
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 23665

                      #70
                      All the talk in the media I've heard since the game was he should have no case to answer.
                      They all cite the Hodge case, and say it is similar.

                      I guess we can only wait and see which way the MRP swing this week.

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                      • Reggi
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                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2718

                        #71
                        Cleared
                        You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                        • ScottH
                          It's Goodes to cheer!!
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 23665

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Reggi
                          Cleared
                          Good!!

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                          • Reggi
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2718

                            #73
                            No alternative way to contest the ball. Was also declared not to be a free kick
                            You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                            • Snake
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 330

                              #74
                              Hanners Cleared!! Twitter - AFL @AFL 1m
                              MRP: Steve Johnson and Chris Dawes can accept 1 game bans, Zac Clarke a reprimand. Dan Hannebery one of three players cleared. More to come.

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                              • mcs
                                Travelling Swannie!!
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 8166

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Snake
                                Hanners Cleared!! Twitter - AFL @AFL 1m
                                MRP: Steve Johnson and Chris Dawes can accept 1 game bans, Zac Clarke a reprimand. Dan Hannebery one of three players cleared. More to come.
                                Que absurd outrage from the Melbourne Media..... I think I can hear the Bombers fans booing from here in chilly old Canberra
                                "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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