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  • dimelb
    pr. dim-melb; m not f
    • Jun 2003
    • 6889

    Thanks for putting up the Robbo article Liz.
    The really disturbing thing about it is the dopey responses from several people - I didn't go all the way down the list. Goodes is a troublemaker? Goodes is a racist? Get your knuckles off the ground, you people.
    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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    • jono2707
      Goes up to 11
      • Oct 2007
      • 3326

      Originally posted by dimelb
      Thanks for putting up the Robbo article Liz.
      The really disturbing thing about it is the dopey responses from several people - I didn't go all the way down the list. Goodes is a troublemaker? Goodes is a racist? Get your knuckles off the ground, you people.
      Fox Footy also posted the Robbo article on Facebook this morning, and some of the comments are awful. I hope Robbo sees it and calls some of the scumbags out on it......

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      • Reggi
        On the Rookie List
        • Jan 2003
        • 2718

        Originally posted by CureTheSane
        Seem to be a bit flip floppy in your POV there.

        One minute you agree that implied racism boos "doesn't reflect the views of the entire Essendon supporter base"
        Next you imply that "racism was behind the booing" (by a large amount of Essendon supporters at the game)

        ???
        So?
        You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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        • Ampersand
          On the Rookie List
          • Apr 2014
          • 694

          Second Essendon supporter now accused of racially vilifying Goodes. Can those that deny there is a racial component to the Goodes hatred kindly remove their heads out if the sand?

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          • Reggi
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2003
            • 2718

            Greg Baum has just written a great article about this at Agesport / realfooty
            You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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            • CureTheSane
              Carpe Noctem
              • Jan 2003
              • 5032

              Originally posted by Bloods05
              I'm not Reggi.
              If I didn't re-post your post, his reply ti it would have been meaningless....
              The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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              • CureTheSane
                Carpe Noctem
                • Jan 2003
                • 5032

                Originally posted by Reggi
                So?
                Just assumed that when someone posts an opinion about something like racism, it's a one that they stand behind.

                I am happy to say that classifying the booing (by apparently a large percentage of the Essendon supporters at the game) as racism is well off the mark.
                Accusing thousands of people of being racist based on booing a player is stupid.

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                I have a proposal.
                everything has been misinterpreted.
                The boos came from a particularly loud group of Swans supporters who were calling gOOOOOOOOOds
                The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                • magic.merkin
                  Senior Player
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 1199

                  Originally posted by Ampersand
                  Second Essendon supporter now accused of racially vilifying Goodes. Can those that deny there is a racial component to the Goodes hatred kindly remove their heads out if the sand?
                  Did anyone specifically say it wasn't a component? Most denying were replying to it being the sole/major component. Which is bull@@@@, as Liz said, he;s been booed for years and years. Winning multiple flags, brownlows and having BOG games against your side will do that.

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                  Originally posted by DamY
                  Goodesy does play for frees though
                  Yep, he has got the sooks up. He has got off some interesting reports and he has had questionable judgment against other players.

                  Plenty of that will occur if you are the number 1 man for near 300 games in as much of an intense sport as ours.

                  Opposition fans will then grab at these straws for something, anything to pull him down. Sadly others resort to racist bigotry.

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                  • Swansongster
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1264

                    Originally posted by Doctor
                    I'm not denying any of that, or disagreeing with you, just pointing out that they get booed by our fans.
                    Understood Doc. I'd like to think I reserve my booing for umpires (unless they are unconscious) and politicians but I am sure I would have booed James Hird and the Bombers last year if I went to that Swans game.

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                    • Swansongster
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1264

                      Originally posted by CureTheSane
                      I have a proposal.
                      everything has been misinterpreted.
                      The boos came from a particularly loud group of Swans supporters who were calling gOOOOOOOOOds
                      "Booo-irdy" they were saying (to steal one of Smithers' lines)

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                      • Ludwig
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9359

                        This is an interesting article about the racial vilification of Adam Goodes that brings up some good points:

                        why-some-fans-are-challenged-by-goodesl

                        I imagine most Australians are not aware of just how serious racism is in America, where it goes beyond the dreadfully normal police brutality and murders which also occurs in Australia. In the US you can be forced out of Congress (Cynthia McKinney) framed for crimes you didn't commit, sometimes managing to overturn the verdict after years of imprisonment (Hurricane Carter), sometimes not (Muamar Abu Jamal). If you're a big enough pain you just get assassinated by the government (Martin Luther King).

                        We are not quite at this stage yet, but the fact is there are too many ignorant people, both here and in America, that just don't like 'uppity' blacks. What a shame that as we once again approach indigenous round, this deplorable behaviour has surfaced once again.

                        Never back down Adam, the most worthy Australian of the Year.

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16773

                          I just came on to post a link to that same article. It is refreshing (and maybe a little surprising) to see an article like this in the sports pages of one of our national papers. In some ways, it is merely a longer version of Robbo's observation that some Australians just weren't ready for Goodes' appointment as AOTY. But it's interesting, nonetheless.

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                          • Reggi
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2718

                            Originally posted by liz
                            I just came on to post a link to that same article. It is refreshing (and maybe a little surprising) to see an article like this in the sports pages of one of our national papers. In some ways, it is merely a longer version of Robbo's observation that some Australians just weren't ready for Goodes' appointment as AOTY. But it's interesting, nonetheless.
                            Many people need to grow up a bit on this issue. I notice Peter Fitzsimmons has written similar in the SMH
                            You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                            • desredandwhite
                              Click!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2498

                              It's a little disappointing, but not particularly surprising that so many people have those sorts of opinions (I'm not saying a majority of people do, but those who do are pretty vocal). As has been mentioned, one thing that IS pleasing is that more people are prepared to stand up for what they know is right. The Bombers member who was ejected on Friday night was dobbed in by a fellow Bombers supporter who wasn't prepared to tolerate it. Good on him for speaking out.

                              It's a curious mentality. There's a significant group of people who don't hate him because he is black, per se. They hate him because he is an indigenous person who DOESN'T KNOW HIS PLACE. there's a few typical comments online that seem to keep coming up:

                              Ape isn't offensive. Well, actually it kind of is. You're saying that he is an animal and nothing more. That's pretty racist. Not knowing or understanding why it's racist doesn't make it ok to say it.

                              If I said the same things he said, I would be branded as a racist. Well your people haven't had decades and centuries of disadvantages and oppression have they? So there is not the same weight of history.

                              177th Senior AFL Match - Round 4, 2009 - Sydney vs Carlton, SCG. This is obviously out of date. I suppose I'll update it once I could be bothered sitting down with the fixture and working it out....
                              Des' Weblog

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                              • Reggi
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 2718

                                It is worth noting though that quite a few were reported and they acted on one
                                You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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