Changes for Round 15 - GWS

[Primmy]

Membrey will get a gig. Goodsey will see the writing on the wall loom large, and being an intelligent man will know 'its time'. We will keep Tim. He is valued by all.

[Ampersand]

Giving Membrey a senior game or two isn't going to be the difference between him staying or going next year. Either he sees the succession plan and the premiership window or he chases the money ala Jed Lamb, who got a dozen games and still didn't stick around.

[Matt80]

Giving Membrey a senior game or two isn't going to be the difference between him staying or going next year. Either he sees the succession plan and the premiership window or he chases the money ala Jed Lamb, who got a dozen games and still didn't stick around.

Giving Membrey some senior games will improve his trade currency, particularly if he performs well. There is the threat of the pre-season draft with 5 Melbourne clubs in contention for the wooden spoon (St Kilda, Richmond, Melbourne, Carlton and The Western Bulldogs. It depends on other un-contracted players who may go into the preseason draft and whether any of those five clubs can offer Membrey the opportunity, home environment and money to leave the Swans.

The Swans are in the box seat due to the ongoing success of the club. Some senior games won't hurt the Swans prospects of keeping him.

[aguy]

Giving Membrey a senior game or two isn't going to be the difference between him staying or going next year. Either he sees the succession plan and the premiership window or he chases the money ala Jed Lamb, who got a dozen games and still didn't stick around.

In hindsight jeds decision was good for the swans as he's struggled to get games at the giants and with all the young midfielders coming through for the swans he probably would still be struggling to get games here.

If love to see membrey get a few games in the seniors this year as I still think the allure of a premiership can be an attractive incentive. Obviously it wasn't for Jed but it maybe for other players. And I'm sure the fans would love to see him too. Then there's the trade opportunities. I'm sure a player with even a few senior games is more attractive at the trade table if it came to that. I hope not personally

[Auntie.Gerald]

Tim Membrey will be in his last year of his 3 year contract in 2015..............I cant see us letting him go given the hard work we have put in and given he hasnt played Snrs yet so if we are going to trade it would need to be at the end of 2015. But above all, Tim still has a lot of potential as a forward or back convert like Grundy or a Josh Gibson.

Funny enough with the way the game is going I have thought about Josh Gibson at 189cm and 92kg or Michael Firrito (almost identical to Membreys build) and wondered whether Tim Membrey may switch to a 3rd defender if he cant make it as a medium sized forward. I could easily see Membrey doing a Laidler type role for the Swans.

ie Josh Gibson (now 30yrs of age) had a late career bloom and has become such a great second or third/loose defender

It wasnt till Gibo was around 23yrs of age (2007) playing for North and shutting down Franklin (previous game that season Buddy had scored 7 goals on North) that people started to notice his potential............end of 2009 season the HAwks offered picks 25 and 41 for Gibson and Norths pick 69

Funny enough the Hawks picked up Taylor Duryea with pick 69 and he played 18 games in 2013 after 4 years with the Hawks in the lower grades.

[Matt80]

Tim Membrey will be in his last year of his 3 year contract in 2015..............I cant see us letting him go given the hard work we have put in and given he hasnt played Snrs yet so if we are going to trade it would need to be at the end of 2015. But above all, Tim still has a lot of potential as a forward or back convert like Grundy or a Josh Gibson.

Funny enough with the way the game is going I have thought about Josh Gibson at 189cm and 92kg or Michael Firrito (almost identical to Membreys build) and wondered whether Tim Membrey may switch to a 3rd defender if he cant make it as a medium sized forward. I could easily see Membrey doing a Laidler type role for the Swans.

ie Josh Gibson (now 30yrs of age) had a late career bloom and has become such a great second or third/loose defender

It wasnt till Gibo was around 23yrs of age (2007) playing for North and shutting down Franklin (previous game that season Buddy had scored 7 goals on North) that people started to notice his potential............end of 2009 season the HAwks offered picks 25 and 41 for Gibson and Norths pick 69

Funny enough the Hawks picked up Taylor Duryea with pick 69 and he played 18 games in 2013 after 4 years with the Hawks in the lower grades.

I thought draftees get mandatory two year contracts. Alex Brown was delisted after two years. Did Membrey get a one year contract extension at some point?

[Auntie.Gerald]

ooops

apologies i thought it was 3 years...........my mistake

[Ampersand]

Giving Membrey some senior games will improve his trade currency, particularly if he performs well.

Other clubs will offer less at the trade table if he's untested at senior level but they'll also offer Membrey less money which means we have a greater chance of matching their offers.

If I was management I'd say to him keep playing well in the two's and building your fitness and we'll offer you a one year extension next year and if you're not happy with the amount of senior time you're getting (after Goodes retires) you can move on.

[Ampersand]

By the way, what pick did we get for the 12-game Jed Lamb? Pick 48?

I'd rather do what we can to hang on to Membrey than try and make him worth a lottery +30 pick.

All that said if Goodes is indeed out Membrey seems like a logical replacement. I just don't think we should be bending over backwards to give him playing time. Our long term positional problems aren't in our forward line but in our defence and half-back positions.

[Doctor]

KPP always take longer. It looks like Membrey is getting close now but I'm sure the coaching staff will be talking to him about how he's going, what they want from him and what their plans are.

[Melb Blood Bro]

By the way, what pick did we get for the 12-game Jed Lamb? Pick 48?

I'd rather do what we can to hang on to Membrey than try and make him worth a lottery +30 pick.

All that said if Goodes is indeed out Membrey seems like a logical replacement. I just don't think we should be bending over backwards to give him playing time. Our long term positional problems aren't in our forward line but in our defence and half-back positions.

We got nothing for Lamb. He went through to the pre-season draft. He did the wrong thing by us there. He should have requested to be traded at least for a third round pick. After all he was a first round pick.

Goodesy will certainly be gone after this year. His knee is shot. I believe it's bone on bone. I think that Membrey would fit in perfectly but he needs to improve his fitness levels.

[ernie koala]

We got nothing for Lamb. He went through to the pre-season draft. He did the wrong thing by us there. He should have requested to be traded at least for a third round pick. After all he was a first round pick.

In Lambs defence, I'm not sure he has much to do with how it transpired. Yes, he accepted a highly inflated contract (something like 300-350k per year for 3 years), can't blame him for that.

It's the clubs that then get together to work out a deal. GWS were in no mood to deal with us, having been left at the alter by Buddy.

They refused to offer anything knowing they would pick him up in the PSD.

Time will tell whether or not they have shot themselves in the foot. At this stage he's shown little return on their money.

[aardvark]

We got nothing for Lamb.

And GWS are getting nothing from Lamb. We made him look better than he is and GWS thought they'd screw us over by taking him for nothing and now it's appearing to be a very expensive mistake on their part.

[ShockOfHair]

Lewis Johnston, Lamb, Veszpremi - at least we figured out they should be moved on.

Membrey's best chance would be Goodes retiring, but the way he's going Adam is probably good for another year. So for once Gary Lyon is right- Membrey would be a ripe target.

[goswannies]

Giving Membrey some senior games will improve his trade currency, particularly if he performs well.

Giving Membrey 100+ games will improve his trade currency and give us a potential father/son recruit one day, especially if he performs well.