Changes Round 22 v Bulldogs

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  • troyjones2525
    Swans Fanatic!
    • Mar 2008
    • 2908

    #91
    Originally posted by Matt80
    I wonder if we are about to rest a key defender. The Bulldogs only recognised key forward is Crameri who is Dane Rampe size.

    We may only need to play one of Grundy and Richards due to opposition match ups. There are certainly enough small/medium defenders in the line up.

    Does anyone think this move is a possibility? Who would you rest out of Richards or Grundy?
    I actually like the sound of this as we could definitely replace one of them with an in form Tommy Walsh. If either one is a little sore and needs a freshen up it would be a perfect opportunity to give them a rest plus test out Walsh down back just in case he is needed! (hopefully not this year). But I very much doubt our conservative selection committee will entertain this although Walsh may be a chance to replace a sore Reid in the back-up ruck/forward/back role.

    My view as what will happen.
    Out: Bird, Kennedy, Reid.
    In: Smith, Shaw, Walsh.

    What I would like to see! In order of who should replace who.
    Out: Bird, Kennedy, Reid, Richards or Grundy, Laidler (stiff), Towers (also stiff).
    In: Mitchell, Hewitt, Nankervis, Walsh, Smith, Shaw.

    Won't happen but would be nice to rest a few before a huge finals series with all the pressure on us to win for a change!

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    • ShockOfHair
      One Man Out
      • Dec 2007
      • 3668

      #92
      Originally posted by wolftone57
      They must have had a bit last week they played him on a wing as a tagger on Lenny Hayes. That is a pretty biy job for any player let alone a 3 gamer. He kept Lenny to 8 disposals by half time and had 13 himself. Not bad really.
      Ah, well-spotted Wolf. I didn't know that was Towers. Awesome job. So unless there's some last-minute complication it should be a straight swap of Shaw and Smith for Bird and Joey. Towers or Biggs as sub.
      The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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      • Conor_Dillon
        On the Rookie List
        • Jun 2013
        • 1224

        #93
        Originally posted by ShockOfHair
        Ah, well-spotted Wolf. I didn't know that was Towers. Awesome job. So unless there's some last-minute complication it should be a straight swap of Shaw and Smith for Bird and Joey. Towers or Biggs as sub.
        He meant Biggs played on Lenny
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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          #94
          This will be the game we rest players. Then back to full strength against the tiges

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          • Zlatorog
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2006
            • 1748

            #95
            Why do we needs to rest players that have no injuries issues? There were 2 byes this year! How much rest do you still need? Why don't we have just 3 months of footy and be done with. That way everybody can rest a lot. Sheesh!

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            • Jewels
              On the Rookie List
              • Oct 2006
              • 3258

              #96
              Originally posted by Zlatorog
              Why do we needs to rest players that have no injuries issues? There were 2 byes this year! How much rest do you still need? Why don't we have just 3 months of footy and be done with. That way everybody can rest a lot. Sheesh!
              Agreed, thats why I thought the second bye was introduced.

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              • Flying South
                Regular in the Side
                • Sep 2013
                • 585

                #97
                Originally posted by Zlatorog
                Why do we needs to rest players that have no injuries issues? There were 2 byes this year! How much rest do you still need? Why don't we have just 3 months of footy and be done with. That way everybody can rest a lot. Sheesh!
                We have got 4 or 5 games of the most intense and physical games of football coming up. If giving players a week off to improve any minor injuries so that they can perform at their optimum in the most important games of the year. Doesn't that make sense?

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                • Conor_Dillon
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 1224

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Flying South
                  We have got 4 or 5 games of the most intense and physical games of football coming up. If giving players a week off to improve any minor injuries so that they can perform at their optimum in the most important games of the year. Doesn't that make sense?
                  yes
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                  • Jewels
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3258

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Flying South
                    We have got 4 or 5 games of the most intense and physical games of football coming up. If giving players a week off to improve any minor injuries so that they can perform at their optimum in the most important games of the year. Doesn't that make sense?
                    No.
                    Proven year after year that the teams that have the least changes win the big dance, less changes = team cohesion. They had a week off just a couple of weeks ago!
                    I see the logic in not playing Josh this weekend as there is a specific problem that they don't want to risk and a week off will assist his recovery and I would have agreed with that POV last year where we had such a hard run into finals and so many injured players,but not this year.

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                    • CureTheSane
                      Carpe Noctem
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 5032

                      I think you rest a player in the last week who is just over the line in being able to play.
                      Let them have another week to lower further injury risk.
                      for instance if this round was the last, and had little impact on our position, you'd possibly say that Reid might miss so that he's right.

                      Aside from that, you want the players playing and staying switched on.
                      The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                      • Matt80
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 1802

                        Originally posted by Jewels
                        No.
                        Proven year after year that the teams that have the least changes win the big dance, less changes = team cohesion. They had a week off just a couple of weeks ago!
                        I see the logic in not playing Josh this weekend as there is a specific problem that they don't want to risk and a week off will assist his recovery and I would have agreed with that POV last year where we had such a hard run into finals and so many injured players,but not this year.
                        I think it depends on the physical talents of the player. They have experimented with informed player management in cricket with fast bowlers. Mitch Johnson who is an athletic marvel can handle in physical workload thrown at him. Pat Cummins, Mitch Starc and James Patterson break down with too much work.

                        The same must apply to footballers. Some need a rest while others don't. Josh Kennedy is a Mitch Johnson will Jake Lloyd always plays better the week after the subs vest. Sam Reid looks like a rest helps while Buddy is about touch and form and would prefer to keep playing.

                        It's all about the physical make up of the players and the fitness staff would have the well being index information.

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                        • aardvark
                          Veterans List
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 5685

                          Originally posted by Matt80
                          It's all about the physical make up of the players and the fitness staff would have the well being index information.
                          Maybe we should sack Matt Cameron and get a weekly report from the "Well Being Index Officer".

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                          • jono2707
                            Goes up to 11
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 3326

                            Originally posted by Matt80
                            I think it depends on the physical talents of the player. They have experimented with informed player management in cricket with fast bowlers. Mitch Johnson who is an athletic marvel can handle in physical workload thrown at him. Pat Cummins, Mitch Starc and James Patterson break down with too much work.
                            Yes and the experiment didn't work, according to Darren Lehmann - his philosophy is playing the best available players at all times.

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                            • Conor_Dillon
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 1224

                              I think what people are trying to say either way is:

                              If resting certain players will benefit the group and give us the best chance of winning the premiership, then do it,

                              If not resting players will benefit the group and give us the best chance of winning the premiership, then do it.

                              Either way we should trust the guys getting paid the big bucks to make these calls!
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                              • Jewels
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 3258

                                Originally posted by jono2707
                                Yes and the experiment didn't work, according to Darren Lehmann - his philosophy is playing the best available players at all times.
                                Exactly, and its a philosophy thats now reaping rewards for the Australian cricket team and a philosophy that from his comments I think is shared by John Longmire.

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