Goodes and booing

[i'm-uninformed2]

This is a sad indication of where Australian society is at. As a young Australian I can't recall anything like this in Australian sport. I'm not sure whether it's better or worse that Adam is near the end of his footballing career, imagine if this went on for 10 years? Sitting in the stands at the MCG watching the Swans play the Hawks I didn't think it could get worse although Sunday it went up another level. Despite the efforts of those in the media and the AFL I'm not convince it will improve, I've lost a lot of faith in the values of many Australians. What year is it?

I'm not sure if Brereton directly encouraged people to boo but the way he said it on radio screaming at Rebecca Wilson didn't sound good. You can listen here, http://www.sen.com.au/news/07-15/goo...on-vs-brereton

Brereton effectively said its Adam's fault

And that's the issue in one. This is not about him being a black man. It's about him being a black man with an opinion. And that's what makes it truly horrible.

Brereton can take a flying ...

[Melbourne_Blood]

Micky O's words on radio today pretty powerful, just heard it on footy classified. Good man Micky.

[Mug Punter]

Brereton effectively said its Adam's fault

And that's the issue in one. This is not about him being a black man. It's about him being a black man with an opinion. And that's what makes it truly horrible.

Brereton can take a flying ...

I am not a huge Rebecca Wilson fan but I have e-mailed her a letter of thanks at

[email protected]

[707]

I hope Adam plays this week and that there is zero tolerance at the ground. Eject any Crows supporter seen to be booing and eject them from the first boo early in the first quarter and make the ejection bloody obvious for all to see on the big screens.

[Mug Punter]

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The faces of hate - for some reason these Kanga fans epitomise the hatred found at every ground at Melbourne when Goodesy plays. Their father who is smiling proudly next to them should be ashamed

[goods78]

I would love to see some more really strong messages of support from the players.

Is there any chance of players that support Goodes and want this to stop to wear the number 37 this weekend?

I know there are some practicalities to be considered, but if some of the opposition fans get the message that if you boo Goodes, you boo me - it may force a few to examine their position.

[Mug Punter]

I hope Adam plays this week and that there is zero tolerance at the ground. Eject any Crows supporter seen to be booing and eject them from the first boo early in the first quarter and make the ejection bloody obvious for all to see on the big screens.

I hate to say it but how can you eject people for boo'ing, it just opens up a completely new can of worms.....

If a Crows fans boos Adam Goodes at the SCG this weekend they will be very very brave.

My personal opinion is that the McVeigh and Jack and Selwood should agree that if there is audible booing of any substantial sections of the crowd that they will be leading their sides off the field. I'm not suggesting the game be cancelled but that the players go back into the sheds for 15 minutes as a statement that they consider this unacceptable. If it still continues then what can you do but the statement will have been made.

I believe that this can only be addressed by the players now, we only have this game and the St Kilda game away until the Finals but the chances are we'll be in WA for Week 1 of the Finals

A mate of mine described the boo'ing as the verbal equivalent of the opposition fans throwing bananas on the field like they used to in English soccer. An extreme analogy but perhaps apt

[goswannies]

I hope Adam plays this week and that there is zero tolerance at the ground. Eject any Crows supporter seen to be booing and eject them from the first boo early in the first quarter and make the ejection bloody obvious for all to see on the big screens.

I overheard a Crows supporter going to the game say "If Tippett doesn't play and Goodes doesn't play, who am I gunna boo?"
This is quite intolerable

[0918330512]

Here's a couple of incidents just from yesterday in the state of Ohio:

A black woman has been found dead in her prison cell near Cleveland, Ohio, police said, adding that the autopsy ?revealed no suspicious injuries.? Her family, however, claims she was ?perfectly fine? a day before she died.
The sister of Ralkina Jones, 37, told the Cleveland.com news website that she talked to her sister on the eve of her death.
"She was perfectly fine. She didn't complain of nothing, saying she was hurting or anything,? Renee Ashford said.

And

Officials in Cincinnati, Ohio have launched a probe into the fatal shooting of a black motorist by a white officer during a traffic stop. Prosecutors say the victim was shot once in the head, while still inside the car, after struggling with the officer.

No offence guys, but footy talk is being somewhat derailed by U.S. race related banter

[jono2707]

Thankfully my Crows mate from Adelaide and partner will not be booing this Sat - they're against it as much as we are. But if there are any booing Crows fans nearby, and I sit pretty close to one of the main opposition bays, I won't think twice about engaging them in a little conversation to hold them accountable for their actions. I'd hope all other Swans fans at the game would be willing to do that.

And absolutely zero tolerance of any direct hate speech please.....

[Mel_C]

I just read an article on the Age that Goodes is contemplating immediate retirement ????. He is concerned about how this whole situation is affecting his teammates. I really hope this is not true. I don't want his career to end like this.

[goswannies]

I just read an article on the Age that Goodes is contemplating immediate retirement ????. He is concerned about how this whole situation is affecting his teammates. I really hope this is not true. I don't want his career to end like this.

Only a week ago there were comments that Adam was playing well enough to consider one more season. Now he's potentially being forced from the game. Disgraceful!
Every other workplace has anti bullying policies yet 20k+ idiots a week can go their hardest. How on earth did it come to this ????

[liz]

Sorry to derail the thread. I know I have some strong views on racism that some find offensive.

It's not about finding anyone's view's offensive. I hope we're all mature enough to respect anyone's view (when expressed maturely) regardless of whether we agree with it. It's more that the broad issues of racism are beyond the scope of this thread, which is really about the situation surrounding Goodsey and the AFL community's response to it. That's a big and broad enough topic in its own right.

I have (or am about to) move those posts discussing racism in its broader context and manifestations to their own thread on the Current Affairs forum.

[liz]

I like Goddard's branding of the behaviour as "bullying". While I don't disagree with the labelling of it as "racist", I am not convinced that is going to have the desired effect. It's too simplistic a word to cover too broad a spectrum of attitudes and behaviours and inbuilt biases in people, not to mention social and economic issues. Too few people even begin to understand how pervasive "racism" is and how many different forms it can take. It's therefore too easy for them to convince themselves they are not racist, and hence their motivations for booing Goodes cannot possibly be racist.

Calling it "bullying" is far more down to earth because it actually matters not what people tell themselves their reasons are. If they are part of a concerted campaign by a section of society, unorganised though it might be, to behave towards a person on a continual basis because they are part of a group that has decided to hate this person, they are participating in bullying. That should be simple for most to understand. If even half those who have been defending their ""right to boo" stop and reflect on just how antisocial this behaviour has become, hopefully it will gradually wither out. At worst, those who refuse to conform to standards of public behaviour that most think are acceptable, they will stand out to a greater degree and hopefully feel more isolated. As Whateley has been saying off and on for a couple of months (in other words), we need the sheep to stop being sheep so that the bigots and the haters are exposed in their full glory.

Booing of Adam Goodes extreme bullying, says Brendon Goddard

[Bexl]

About 2 years ago I was at a swans dogs game in Melbourne and my then 5 year old booed a dogs player after some good play he did. He thought this was fun and part of the game then I explained to him that it is good to cheer for our team but not nice or nessacery to boo other teams or players. I said this to him as I want him to be a good person. Unfortunately some adults are not as easy to teach even if they still have the mental capacity and maturity of a 5 year old.