SCG crowds 1982-2014

[Meg]

Thank you, that's fascinating! (Give him a longer contract!) For example look at 2007, much different to looking just at SCG. Now can you overlay the rainfall readings on game days? (Just kidding!)

[neilfws]

For example look at 2007, much different to looking just at SCG

Right, so what you see there is what MarshallG talked about; the fewer, but bigger crowd ANZ games increase the range, so the box gets stretched upwards. But you can see that the coloured SCG points are clustered around the median, in the same position as the SCG-only charts. That's why I think it's worth looking at SCG separately; both venues are home games, but the ANZ games tend to distort the picture, being far fewer but with generally larger crowds.

Now can you overlay the rainfall readings on game days?

That would be a cool project, wouldn't it - mash up weather with scores. We'd see if we really do go worse in the wet!

[Meg]

Right, so what you see there is what MarshallG talked about; the fewer, but bigger crowd ANZ games increase the range, so the box gets stretched upwards. But you can see that the coloured SCG points are clustered around the median, in the same position as the SCG-only charts. That's why I think it's worth looking at SCG separately; both venues are home games, but the ANZ games tend to distort the picture, being far fewer but with generally larger crowds.!

Yes each chart adds to the story. As always using statistics, it pays to look at what picture they might illustrate from several angles. We didn't do box charts like yours back when I did Eco Statistics many years ago but I really like the depiction (once I wrapped my head around it).

[mcs]

Great work on these - the charts are fascinating, and I will be interested to see what might happen in 2015. If we win the flag this year, I would like to think we might get 3 or 4 40K+ games at the SCG, and hopefully see a bounce back in ANZ numbers (the downwards trend on them is surely a significant worry to the club).

[MarshallG]

Just for you then. ANZ is referred to as "Stad. Aust." by the keepers of the data.

I think points works better than boxes for this chart. What's interesting is that 2014 is the first year since we started using ANZ where it does not have the biggest crowds.

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Could that be because:

(a) previous years include the finals, the 2014 data is incomplete or,
(b) 2014 tickets cost more

[neilfws]

Could that be because: (a) previous years include the finals, the 2014 data is incomplete or, (b) 2014 tickets cost more

Forgot to mention, there are no finals games in these charts. Just home games from the H&A season.

Could be a combination of things I guess: cost, less drawcard games (only the Hawks really), games coinciding with bad weather or transport issues...

[DamY]

ANZ only got one game which I would call a blockbuster this year. The Hawks game.

The other games were v Collingwood when we had hardly won a game at the start of the year, and v Richmond in a dead rubber for us.

However, Bit of work to do to get it up to the 60,000 level it should be. I reackon the loss of the "3 game ANZ pass" has hurt crowds since it was dropped a couple of years ago.

Not being funny, but how is that any different to the Red 3? That entitled you to any 3 games, regardless of the venue. I remember in 2013 the club working hard to drive 3 match memberships, they had Fortress memberships, blockbuster memberships, last 3 of the year..

[barry]

To be honest, ive never heard of the red 3.?

I remember a while ago they changed the 3 game anz pass to be as 4 game pass with one at the SCG. Defeated the purpose. For casual fans who live in the west, they only want to go to ANZ.

[Mel_C]

To be honest, ive never heard of the red 3.?

I remember a while ago they changed the 3 game anz pass to be as 4 game pass with one at the SCG. Defeated the purpose. For casual fans who live in the west, they only want to go to ANZ.

Maybe that's why they introduced that to allow new fans to experience the SCG and hopefully entice them to more games there.

[jono2707]

ANZ only got one game which I would call a blockbuster this year. The Hawks game.

The other games were v Collingwood when we had hardly won a game at the start of the year, and v Richmond in a dead rubber for us.

However, Bit of work to do to get it up to the 60,000 level it should be. I reackon the loss of the "3 game ANZ pass" has hurt crowds since it was dropped a couple of years ago.

It's very disingenuous to claim the Collingwood game as being anything but a blockbuster.

I'd say the demise of 3 game Homebush passes has coincided with the genesis of GWS. I highly doubt our crowds would ever reach anything near 60,000 now that there's another team in Sydney's west charged with converting casual observers and those new to AFL to becoming followers of the sport.

[YvonneH]

In 2003 the 3 game ANZ pass was what got me interested in becoming a Swans member and going to all the home games since then (I maybe have missed about 3 in that time).
My daughter who had zero interest in an AFL game came with me (Swans V's Blues) and we thrashed them by about 60 points.

She also became a member and was one till about 2 years ago when children and work got in the way, but she still comes when commitments allow.

[Untamed Snark]

Hmmm, I was going to get my Sister-in-law an ANZ 3 game pass for Christmas
Will have to rethink things if they are not available

[mcs]

Hmmm, I was going to get my Sister-in-law an ANZ 3 game pass for Christmas
Will have to rethink things if they are not available

Just get her a red 3 pass - does exactly the same thing, just isn't tied to ANZ.

[DamY]

If people really want to have more games at the SCG, maybe they should vote with their feet and attend more games there. The way attendances are going and depending on the scheduling, there is a real opportunity for 4/5 games being proper sellouts which would send a signal to the AFL