Grand Final: Sydney Swans Reserves v Aspley Hornets

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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
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    • Jan 2003
    • 15970

    I might do that when watching the last quarter.
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    • ugg
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      • Jan 2003
      • 15970

      Third quarter thoughts

      Crouch made some moves at half time. Jones moved to the midfield to tag Payne, a strange decision considering the amazing job Robinson was doing on him. Robbo moved to half forward to play on Robbie Copeland instead. Walsh moved forward too as he didn't have a tall opponent to matchup in the back line.


      Great quarter by Towers capped off by a sensational solo goal by Towers using his pace to get away from Payne, should be doing that a lot more during games. Also liked Hewett's clearances he's very clean with his hands.
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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        An amusing moment after the game (on the video) when they called Tom Mitchell to podium to receive his BOG medal. The organisers were looking through a box, but couldn't find the medal. So Tom was just hanging around with a look on his face that said 'I don't belong in this league, get me out of here'. They sent him back until later when they finally found the medal.

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        • stellation
          scott names the planets
          • Sep 2003
          • 9721

          Originally posted by ugg
          I might do that when watching the last quarter.
          If you do I'd certainly be interested to hear. I hadn't even twigged- but the 7th goal for the fourth quarter was on the siren so had no additional time on added anyway- so it was 4 extra minutes with 1 less goal in the fourth compared to the third.
          I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
          We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            There was another bizarre call closing out the 3rd qtr. when after taking a mark Nanka had a kick for goal after the siren. The umpire walked up Nanka and made him move to his left (better angle), then as Nanka was about to take his run up, came back and made Nanka go back to his right around where he had started from in the first place. Nanka takes his run up with no noticeable deviation from the line, he kicks a behind, but they disallowed it as they said he played on.

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            • ugg
              Can you feel it?
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              • Jan 2003
              • 15970

              Originally posted by Ludwig
              There was another bizarre call closing out the 3rd qtr. when after taking a mark Nanka had a kick for goal after the siren. The umpire walked up Nanka and made him move to his left (better angle), then as Nanka was about to take his run up, came back and made Nanka go back to his right around where he had started from in the first place. Nanka takes his run up with no noticeable deviation from the line, he kicks a behind, but they disallowed it as they said he played on.
              I think he deviated, just ever so slightly, but obviously having told him to move around they watching very closely.
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              • Ludwig
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                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                Originally posted by ugg
                I think he deviated, just ever so slightly, but obviously having told him to move around they watching very closely.
                I didn't take note of how they called the set shot deviations in this game, but AFL umps allow far greater deviations than Nanka's. It looked to be a natural run up, which I believe is how they view it in the AFL.

                The odd thing about the positioning is that the same ump first moved Nanka to the left and then back to the right. Nanka just followed instructions.

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                • ugg
                  Can you feel it?
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15970

                  I'm afraid it's time to put the tin foil hats away. Here are my amateur efforts at timekeeping:

                  Stop watch - Game clock
                  12:30 - 20:00
                  15:00 - 25:09
                  16:00 - 26:31
                  17:00 - 27:37
                  17:18 - Zak Jones goal
                  18:00 - 29:52
                  19:00 - 31:11
                  19:33 - Tom Mitchell behind
                  20:00 - 32:42
                  20:15 - Paid the throw
                  20:34 - Smith kicks the goal

                  Couldn't hear when the siren went but assume it was sometime between the ball leaving his boot and the person in the background yelling "THE SIREN'S GONE!!!"

                  I didn't think we tried to lock it down hard enough during the last minute or so, but looked like the players were dead on their feet. A few mistakes too, like Heeney not running the ball over the line at about the 30 minute mark and getting pinged for HTB. And great courageous play from Doug Hadden going back with the flight about 30 seconds after Heeney's free against.

                  ROK's work in the lead up to Jones' goal was fantastic, defensively at first with the tackling and then feeding it out with brute strength to the free Jones.
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                  • ugg
                    Can you feel it?
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                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15970

                    Originally posted by Ludwig
                    I didn't take note of how they called the set shot deviations in this game, but AFL umps allow far greater deviations than Nanka's. It looked to be a natural run up, which I believe is how they view it in the AFL.

                    The odd thing about the positioning is that the same ump first moved Nanka to the left and then back to the right. Nanka just followed instructions.
                    You'll find umpiring decisions differ wildly between the two levels, which is a little surprising as there are a few umpires that flit between the two levels during the season. I thought the umpire behind him, not the one who lined him up, was the one watching closely and the one that probably made the ruling.
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                    • undy
                      Fatal error: Allowed memo
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1231

                      Aspley got knocked out by Williamstown in the Foxtel Cup this year, but scored more points than anyone else managed against the eventual champions. They look pretty useful, good game by both teams.
                      Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way you'll be a mile away and he'll be shoeless.

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                      • Conor_Dillon
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 1224

                        After watching the game I didn't think the umpiring was that bad except for maybe the last call. It needs to be said that the umps are under pressure in a grand-final as well.

                        It was an outstanding game, watched the VFL yesterday as well and I'd say as far as skill level and intensity goes that both games were on par.

                        Thought Membrey looked really smooth up forward, he moves so well. Hewett had some flashes of brilliance and Mitchell is just a gun...his foot-skills looked better than normal as well.

                        Wasn't overly impressed with Biggs but he did some nice things, Walsh looked good...I'd forgotten how penetrating his kicks are.

                        Heeney did some good things too but i rekon Mills might just about trump him in the long run. Not sold on Davis or Hiscox yet.

                        Thought Marsh was going okay until he got injured but I'd say Lockyer has played his last game at the club.

                        Naismith didn't have as much influence as his stats suggest but thought Nankervis was impressive, particularly in the forward line. He's a prodigious kick for a big bloke.

                        Towers was great...the taste of senior footy looks like it's done his confidence wonders, interesting that they played him back too...possible replacement for Mal? B.Jack flashed in and out of the game.

                        ROK was ROK, Robinson did a brilliant job tagging Payne and then was good when they released him...has more tricks than i realised too...did some classy things!

                        Jones was really hard at it and super clean below his knees...wouldn't surprise me to see him play 15+ senior games next season.

                        X.Richards dominated their full-forward...didn't win heaps of the footy himself but looked composed with ball in hand. His closing speed seems to be reasonably elite.

                        I should qualify all of these observations by saying that I watched the replay on my iPhone so they may not be 100% accurate.

                        - - - Updated - - -

                        Also did anyone notice that Michael Hutchison (I think that's his name?) from Aspley is off The Recruit? Thought he played pretty well, too.
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                        • stellation
                          scott names the planets
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 9721

                          Originally posted by ugg
                          I'm afraid it's time to put the tin foil hats away. Here are my amateur efforts at timekeeping:

                          Stop watch - Game clock
                          12:30 - 20:00
                          15:00 - 25:09
                          16:00 - 26:31
                          17:00 - 27:37
                          17:18 - Zak Jones goal
                          18:00 - 29:52
                          19:00 - 31:11
                          19:33 - Tom Mitchell behind
                          20:00 - 32:42
                          20:15 - Paid the throw
                          20:34 - Smith kicks the goal

                          Couldn't hear when the siren went but assume it was sometime between the ball leaving his boot and the person in the background yelling "THE SIREN'S GONE!!!"

                          I didn't think we tried to lock it down hard enough during the last minute or so, but looked like the players were dead on their feet. A few mistakes too, like Heeney not running the ball over the line at about the 30 minute mark and getting pinged for HTB. And great courageous play from Doug Hadden going back with the flight about 30 seconds after Heeney's free against.

                          ROK's work in the lead up to Jones' goal was fantastic, defensively at first with the tackling and then feeding it out with brute strength to the free Jones.
                          There you go, then! Thanks for that, it was hard to get a real feel for it without some kind of timing myself to work out if it really was overly wrong. Running that close suggests they were on the money.
                          I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                          We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                          • ShockOfHair
                            One Man Out
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 3668

                            Interesting. BOG is called the Andrew Ireland medal.
                            Something to do with his Lions background helping form NEAFL? Or not.

                            No masking Mitchell's disappointment
                            The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                            • Bloods05
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 1641

                              Originally posted by ShockOfHair
                              Interesting. BOG is called the Andrew Ireland medal.
                              Something to do with his Lions background helping form NEAFL? Or not.

                              No masking Mitchell's disappointment
                              Obviously plotting a move to Carlton.

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                              • Conor_Dillon
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 1224

                                Originally posted by Bloods05
                                Obviously plotting a move to Carlton.
                                Couldn't agree more...that was the interview of a man who definitely isn't leaving.
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