AFL slaps trade ban on Swans

[dimelb]

And that makes sense to me. Other codes have done it with success. The trouble is that the AFL is a "boys club".

True, and we need more women in the various positions.
But even more of a problem is that the AFL is a Victorian boys' club.

[Danzar]

If Eddie is pissed off, I'm happy. No Cookies | Herald Sun

[S.S. Bleeder]

Back onto the COLA situation. I found the following stats on average wages in Melbourne and Sydney (among other locations); http://www.roberthalf.com.au/EMEA/Au...ry%20Guide.pdf. The fact that wages are higher in Sydney is indicative of the higher cost of living.BTW I don't mind that the COLA has been removed and replaced with a different system. I just wanted to highlight to all those anti COLA people that it is in fact more expensive to live in Sydney.

[S.S. Bleeder]

True, and we need more women in the various positions.
But even more of a problem is that the AFL is a Victorian boys' club.

We do need more women in these roles but only if they're the best candidate. We certainly don't need affirmative action.

I also fail to see why someone in AFL management needs an AFL background. It should be run like a business not a big football club. This of course doesn't mean that any business person can run it as it is different to many businesses.

[liz]

"Where this ban came from in the first place God only knows,? he said on Triple M on Thursday.

That is either breathtaking dishonesty or an astonishing lack of self-awareness. Either way, he needs to be slapped down by the AFL. Which won't happen.

The Ed quotes are bizarre. On the one had he suggests that the ban had little basis, but then suggests that this modification represents a "win" for the Swans.

He complains that the Swans didn't have to pay market value for Heeney yet doesn't seem to have an issue with the Pies' entitlement to Moore for under market value.

[annew]

The Ed quotes are bizarre. On the one had he suggests that the ban had little basis, but then suggests that this modification represents a "win" for the Swans.

He complains that the Swans didn't have to pay market value for Heeney yet doesn't seem to have an issue with the Pies' entitlement to Moore for under market value.

Yeah I thought Eddies comments were bizarre too. He also whinges about our entitlement to so many father son picks and what Collingwood aren't - he is just on one track bag the swans

[Matt80]

If Eddie is pissed off, I'm happy. No Cookies | Herald Sun

Look out! Eddie is framing an argument that the AFL is giving favourable treatment to the Swans. He describes the latest version Swans Trade Ban as being "struck by a lettuce leaf". He then takes aim at Heeney and the QBE Swans Academy.

You can bet that he will be in the ear of Gillion at some social function over the long weekend. He will also be discussing the issue with other Club Presidents and the AFL Commission at probably the same social function on the weekend. Perhaps the "AFL Boys Club" are going sailing this weekend. Nobody at the Swans will have a spot on that boat.

He won't stop the public and private Swans lampooning until Academy changes are announced.

Now I ask the Red and White community:

Are you backing Gill to see this through or would you like an NFL executive with no pre-existing political ties.

You all know who I would have gone for.

[Bloods05]

I also fail to see why someone in AFL management needs an AFL background. It should be run like a business not a big football club. This of course doesn't mean that any business person can run it as it is different to many businesses.

And of course, what is different about it is that it is in fact a big football club.

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Look out! Eddie is framing an argument that the AFL is giving favourable treatment to the Swans. He describes the latest version Swans Trade Ban as being "struck by a lettuce leaf". He then takes aim at Heeney and the QBE Swans Academy.

You can bet that he will be in the ear of Gillion at some social function over the long weekend. He will also be discussing the issue with other Club Presidents and the AFL Commission at probably the same social function on the weekend. Perhaps the "AFL Boys Club" are going sailing this weekend. Nobody at the Swans will have a spot on that boat.

He won't stop the public and private Swans lampooning until Academy changes are announced.

Now I ask the Red and White community:

Are you backing Gill to see this through or would you like an NFL executive with no pre-existing political ties.

You all know who I would have gone for.

You are right to say the AFL leadership needs to be disinterested. You are wrong to assume that can only come from the NFL. It's ridiculous.

[graemed]

Below is the email I sent on this matter to the AFL via [email protected]:

"Dear Sir/ Madam

I just read an article on the SEN website about the lifting of the trade ban on Sydney.

I have two points that I would like to have clarified, if I may,

Firstly. what happens if a player, who currently earns more than the acerage salary is traded from Sydney to another club, e.g say Sam Reid, would Sydney be able to enter into negotions for a similarly proced player?

Secondly, I contacted SEN, however they could give me a definitive answer as to why the ban was enforced or necessary given that all parties agree that the Swans did nothing wrong. The only explanation they could provide rang hollow as they seemed to believe that the Swans had abused the COLA yet clearly their accounts must be in order if the AFL are satisfied they did nothing against the rules. I believe that the 40,000 Swans members are entitled to some explanation from the AFL as to why this decision was originally made, especially.if there is no fault"

I am totally confused by this whole business, why it was instituted initially and why the Swans did not exercise their right to go to court and contest it.

[Ludwig]

Just as I suspected, Eddie is already back on the academy crap. That's why I thought it was better to take a meaningless hit on this trade ban and save our ammo for the next battle. Then it will be our turn to tell the AFL: "You can't have everything."

Yeah I thought Eddies comments were bizarre too. He also whinges about our entitlement to so many father son picks and what Collingwood aren't - he is just on one track bag the swans

And nothing is really too bizarre for Eddie:

[CureTheSane]

About what I expected (the result of the negotiations)
AFL had no choice to bend a bit as whilst there was no outrage in the football community, there were a LOT of commentators being gobsmacked by the perceived unfairness of the situation.
AFL needed this to go away and they achieved that because .....

..... the Swans decided to be weak as piss and accept being unfairly bullied.
The Swans let it be known fairly well through their actions and inactions that they weren't going to do much about this and would be submissive.

Sad and embarrassing for all Swans fans

[Matt80]

Matt for PM

There needs to be a solution found to stop Eddie. He will now campaign against the Swans Academy endlessly through out the season. His campaign will go into overdrive if Heeney became a first team regular, and becomes favourite for the rising star award. His campaign will hit hyperdrive if Callam Mills has a standout year and becomes the favoured pick one if available.

I proposed late last year that the club attempt to build a bridge with Eddie using Adam Goodes to assist. My suggestion was shot down in a major way. The club needs to find a way to get Eddie off its back. Based on the AFLs decision to issue the Swans a trade ban, I don't think the AFL can resist a fierce Eddie campaign.

I would not be trusting the AFL to back the Swans. I think the noise needs to be stopped from Eddie.

Maybe a deal can be reached.

Eddie gets a photo opportunity with Adam Goodes a well-known Melbourne eatery and a fluffy newspaper piece about old mates making up in exchange for getting off the Swans back on the Academy. Eddie would love the positive public image far more than derailing the Swans Academy.

This is just my opinion.

[S.S. Bleeder]

Eddie gets a photo opportunity with Adam Goodes a well-known Melbourne eatery and a fluffy newspaper piece about old mates making up in exchange for getting off the Swans back on the Academy. Eddie would love the positive public image far more than derailing the Swans Academy.

Surely you jest Matt. Being friends with Eddie will make zero difference. Eddie loves a positive public image but he loves Collingwood more than anything else and won't accept a weak bribe in order to take his foot off our throat.

[0918330512]

I proposed late last year that the club attempt to build a bridge with Eddie using Adam Goodes to assist. My suggestion was shot down in a major way. The club needs to find a way to get Eddie off its back. Based on the AFLs decision to issue the Swans a trade ban, I don't think the AFL can resist a fierce Eddie campaign.

Maybe a deal can be reached.

Eddie gets a photo opportunity with Adam Goodes a well-known Melbourne eatery and a fluffy newspaper piece about old mates making up in exchange for getting off the Swans back on the Academy. Eddie would love the positive public image far more than derailing the Swans Academy.

This is just my opinion.

Your proposal was ignored & dismissed late last year.

Restating it won't likely change that.

It's not even an original idea. Tetley tea based a whole ad campaign around such a concept. Paul Kelly & Libba faked sharing a cup tea on TV ... hasn't improved their relationship.

[Matt80]

Surely you jest Matt. Being friends with Eddie will make zero difference. Eddie loves a positive public image but he loves Collingwood more than anything else and won't accept a weak bribe in order to take his foot off our throat.

We have to do something about his noise. We can't sit back and hope the AFL ignores Eddie. They won't ingnore Eddie. They will give him little wins along the way. That's what the Swans Trade Ban was about.

Are there any better ideas to stop Eddies noise?