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  • Meg
    Go Swannies!
    Site Admin
    • Aug 2011
    • 4828

    Ah ha! Confirmation that Swans' presentation of their case is underway.

    Swans meet AFL Commission to try to overturn trading ban - AFL.com.au

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    • annew
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2006
      • 2164

      Still no news on this

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      • Meg
        Go Swannies!
        Site Admin
        • Aug 2011
        • 4828

        Slightly updated story now on AFL site including:

        "A Swans spokesperson told AFL.com.au the club was pleased to be able to state its case to the AFL Commission and would now await its decision.

        The club had no further comment to make at this stage."

        So we continue to wait ..........

        Swans meet AFL Commission to try to overturn trading ban - AFL.com.au

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          Decision to be made after the grand final in keeping with the usual alacrity of the commission.

          On a serious note, there's been 2 changes to the commission that appear theoretically favourable to the Swans. Ex Hawthorn player Chris Langford and McGuire lackey Bill Kelty have resigned and have been replaced by former Swan premiership player Jason Ball and Major General Simone Wilkie, who may not be pro McGuire considering his sexist history. Link here: AFL Commission changes: Major General Simone Wilkie, Jason Ball replace Chris Langford, Bill Kelty

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          • S.S. Bleeder
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2014
            • 2165

            Originally posted by Ludwig
            Decision to be made after the grand final in keeping with the usual alacrity of the commission.

            On a serious note, there's been 2 changes to the commission that appear theoretically favourable to the Swans. Ex Hawthorn player Chris Langford and McGuire lackey Bill Kelty have resigned and have been replaced by former Swan premiership player Jason Ball and Major General Simone Wilkie, who may not be pro McGuire considering his sexist history. Link here: AFL Commission changes: Major General Simone Wilkie, Jason Ball replace Chris Langford, Bill Kelty
            Great news. That made my day. Jason Ball will certainly not be anti-Swans and anyone from the armed services hierarchy is bound to have some integrity and ethics.

            I just read this posted on the Swans website about Ball; Sydney Swans congratulate Jason Ball - sydneyswans.com.au. Ball has had to resign from his positions with the Sydney Swans, presumably due to the conflict of interest. Why does he have a conflict of interest yet McGuire, Newbold, Gordon, etc, etc don't?
            Last edited by S.S. Bleeder; 15 December 2014, 05:16 PM.

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            • mcs
              Travelling Swannie!!
              • Jul 2007
              • 8166

              Certainly a fantastic thing to see Jason Ball get appointed- has shown at the Swans that he is more than capable as an administrator, to go alongside his mighty fine efforts in the ruck in 2005

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              Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
              Great news. That made my day. Jason Ball will certainly not be anti-Swans and anyone from the armed services hierarchy is bound to have some integrity and ethics.

              I just read this posted on the Swans website about Ball; Sydney Swans congratulate Jason Ball - sydneyswans.com.au. Ball has had to resign from his positions with the Sydney Swans, presumably due to the conflict of interest. Why does he have a conflict of interest yet McGuire, Newbold, Gordon, etc, etc don't?
              Come on SS, can't have the same rules for all, that would make sense!!!
              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8559

                Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                Great news. That made my day. Jason Ball will certainly not be anti-Swans and anyone from the armed services hierarchy is bound to have some integrity and ethics.

                I just read this posted on the Swans website about Ball; Sydney Swans congratulate Jason Ball - sydneyswans.com.au. Ball has had to resign from his positions with the Sydney Swans, presumably due to the conflict of interest. Why does he have a conflict of interest yet McGuire, Newbold, Gordon, etc, etc don't?
                Well the obvious difference is that the three latter mentioned A-holes aren't on the AFL Commission, but it has to be said, having them on the 'equalisation' committee is just as big a conflict of interest. It's straight out of the VFL playbook....and it sucks! Hopefully Ball brings some common sense to proceedings within the AFL/VFL.

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                • Matt80
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 1802

                  Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                  Great news. That made my day. Jason Ball will certainly not be anti-Swans and anyone from the armed services hierarchy is bound to have some integrity and ethics.

                  I just read this posted on the Swans website about Ball; Sydney Swans congratulate Jason Ball - sydneyswans.com.au. Ball has had to resign from his positions with the Sydney Swans, presumably due to the conflict of interest. Why does he have a conflict of interest yet McGuire, Newbold, Gordon, etc, etc don't?
                  Despite our indifference to Newbold, McGuire and Gordon they don't have a conflict of interest because they are not on the AFL commission. If any of those three excepted a position on the AFL commission, they would have to resign their presidencies of their clubs.

                  They do have the ability to influence the AFL Commission as all club Presidents do, but this does not constitute a conflict of interest.

                  People could argue that McQuire has a conflict of interest between his media commitments and his club presidency. Tim Lane argued this strongly years ago.

                  He has been approved to continue in his duel role by the Collingwood club board and the boards of the media companies he works for. He therefore does not have a conflict of interest.

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                  • stevoswan
                    Veterans List
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 8559

                    Originally posted by Matt80
                    Despite our indifference to Newbold, McGuire and Gordon they don't have a conflict of interest because they are not on the AFL commission. If any of those three excepted a position on the AFL commission, they would have to resign their presidencies of their clubs.

                    They do have the ability to influence the AFL Commission as all club Presidents do, but this does not constitute a conflict of interest.

                    People could argue that McQuire has a conflict of interest between his media commitments and his club presidency. Tim Lane argued this strongly years ago.

                    He has been approved to continue in his duel role by the Collingwood club board and the boards of the media companies he works for. He therefore does not have a conflict of interest.
                    You would think common sense would dictate that it should be the AFL who have final say on whether his media and club involvements are a conflict of interest, not his employers, whose interests are served better by him remaining in both roles anyway. The AFL has obviously given him the all clear, mindful not to upset the huge Magpie supporter base. So it logically follows that Eddie has an unhealthy and unethical influence on the league, which is obvious too all who follow the game, just not those who have a vested interest(Magpie fans), and also those whose job it is to protect the game from this sort of crap, the AFL hierarchy. It's sad......

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                    • DamY
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1479

                      Originally posted by Matt80
                      Despite our indifference to Newbold, McGuire and Gordon they don't have a conflict of interest because they are not on the AFL commission. If any of those three excepted a position on the AFL commission, they would have to resign their presidencies of their clubs.

                      They do have the ability to influence the AFL Commission as all club Presidents do, but this does not constitute a conflict of interest.

                      People could argue that McQuire has a conflict of interest between his media commitments and his club presidency. Tim Lane argued this strongly years ago.

                      He has been approved to continue in his duel role by the Collingwood club board and the boards of the media companies he works for. He therefore does not have a conflict of interest.
                      Good post Matt. Just wanna point out it's dual (two) rather than duel (when you challenge someone to a fight)

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                      • jono2707
                        Goes up to 11
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 3326

                        Originally posted by DamY
                        Good post Matt. Just wanna point out it's dual (two) rather than duel (when you challenge someone to a fight)
                        We're talking Eddie here - maybe Matt got it right???

                        Agreed that it was a good post...

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                        • barry
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8499

                          Does anyone think we'll ever get to the bottom of this, or just another "trust us, we are in charge" scenario ?

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                          • stevoswan
                            Veterans List
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 8559

                            Originally posted by barry
                            Does anyone think we'll ever get to the bottom of this, or just another "trust us, we are in charge" scenario ?
                            Depends on the result, but wouldn't be surprised at all if it leaves us perplexed and feeling shafted, and we'll all know whose really in charge, won't we....Victoria!

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                            • Jewels
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3258

                              Originally posted by barry
                              Does anyone think we'll ever get to the bottom of this, or just another "trust us, we are in charge" scenario ?
                              I guess we'll know the final outcome around October next year!

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                              • JPK12
                                Suspended by the MRP
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 246

                                Originally posted by DamY
                                Good post Matt. Just wanna point out it's dual (two) rather than duel (when you challenge someone to a fight)
                                Which i why i think he is a massive troll, when he can be bothered he actually makes good posts but then he starts to troll with condescending and disingenuous style posts.

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