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Lets hope they guarantee all GWS finals games there, so you can continue to watch afl at anz, whilst those that arent just conveniece fans can watch the swans play finals at their actual home ground...
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"You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound." -
Not likely Barry..."political pawn" ?
The way I see it, they used the stadium battle, to their advantage, to secure a long term deal at their true home ground, that works for them,.
As for your 2nd point..Worded slightly differently..."They didn't pander to the outer- city crowd who don't like travelling past anzac bridge a handful of times."
Which, going by the tone of your posts, sums up 'The Barry position'.Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MTComment
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Love the announcement!
On the swans website it notes "the new deal also included the provision for the AFL to schedule finals matches at the SCG".
I take this to mean if we have a home final against a team with a small travelling supporter base (e.g. Kangaroos), the game will be at the SCG. Would the AFL force us to play at ANZ if we play a Collingwood where we could have an over capacity crowd at the SCG?Comment
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Just catching up on this thread. The legend I remember as a kid was that Doug Walters hooked one from the old SCG No.2 which landed in the lake (and it has always been known as Kippax Lake - well, certainly in my lifetime anyway).
I turned up this item from a Google search and even they get it wrong (Kippax Lake cleaning and the mystery of Doug Walters' ball | Centennial Parklands Blog - actually, this explains the yarn - Legends of Australian Sport: The Inside Story - Peter Meares - Google Books).
Dougie was batting on No.2 oval (which was situated directly north of the main ground - where the indoor cricket centre is now and close to Driver Ave) when he hit the legendary shot (which no-one saw land in the lake - it is said/guessed to have bounced off Driver Avenue on its way).
P.S. It is way too far for anybody bar Superman to hit one from the SCG pitch area all the way to Kippax Lake. As a right hander - and if hit from SCG - it would have been an almighty on drive from the Randwick end that cleared the Members' Pavilion and kept sailing another 150-200 yards. From No.2, it would have been a solid hook/pull of 150 yards or so (an acceptable possibility).Comment
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Or, they could play politics and let the government waste money on ANZ instead of SFS or WS.
Hopefully they got the best stadium deal at the stadium with the best viewing that also allows them to upgrade their facilities.
To their fans - you know - the people who roll up and buy memberships etc.
Why? When the Swans first went to ANZ there was the allure of large capacity stadium. But now everybody has realised that ANZ has less good viewing seats and is not a terribly good stadium.give it to the gameComment
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Putting on my barry hat for a minute, in a sense it's true that we are trading off the extra capacity of ANZ and presence in Western Sydney, but surely you'd have to back the club in with this one, I would have thought it would be in our best interests to play all our games at our own home ground, and they (presumably) wouldn't have signed such a long bloody deal unless it were favourable. The players prefer the SCG, the fans prefer it, it's a better venue to watch the footy, what's the problem?
Finals will be interesting though. Will the AFL be tempted to schedule potentially big-drawing finals games at ANZ after 2016 (bearing in mind that we don't control where finals are played), which might put us in a situation where we could have to play a home final at a ground where we don't play during the home and away season?Comment
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If the deal was so favourable, surely we would have heard details about it.
Sorry to feel skeptical, but they last few big stadium deals (Eithiad, and Adelaide oval) have screwed the clubs after those very same clubs trumpted the signing of long term contracts.
To sign for 30 years must have some massive bonuses for the swans. The lack of any announcement worries me that there arent any. Implying once again, that the SCG has had the upper hand in negotiations, and the bonus is just for the SCG.... a tenant for 30 years.Comment
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Barry everyone on this forum now about your passion for ANZ stadium but Xie Shan has summed it with "The players prefer the SCG, the fans prefer it, it's a better venue to watch the footy". For your sake I will add "the majority of the fans prefer it". I also have faith in the club administrators securing a favorable deal with the 30 years. With regard to the details I can only say that I am not aware of the details that the club had with ANZ, perhaps you can enlighten us and if the club submits details of the 30 year deal with the SCG then comparisons could be made.Comment
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Understand the skepticism to a degree but we have more bargaining power now, and I don't think the club should be required to make public the details of a legally binding contract unless it was necessary to do so.Comment
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Have you ever seen the Swans administration facilities at the SCG?
Have you ever gone downstairs and seen the locker rooms?
The ice pool in the locker rooms?
The gym?
The SCG Trust have certainly gone out of their way to ensure that their WINTER tenant is kept happy.
That's what landlords do.Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.Comment
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Andrew (I forget which) said the deal is one of the best stadium deals compared to other clubs and it has 10 year escape clauses anywayComment
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