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  • wolftone57
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2008
    • 5835

    #31
    Originally posted by Matt80
    No. Roos was effectively moved on. Any person who is asked to take a significant salary contract reduction (over 30%) would feel they are being moved on.

    His performance at the Academy has been outstanding. Look at the fruit. Brandon Jack, Perris, Heeney, Davis and Hiscox. Mills's development can also be largely attributed to Roos.

    Roos has every right to take what he can from the Swans.
    1. Roos chose to step down as coach of the Swans.

    2. Roos chose to take on the role of Head Coach of the Academy knowing the salary was only for a period of years and then would be renegotiated. Due to him being the ex-head coach of the Swans he was offered far more than a Head Coach of an Academy could expect and he knew this.

    3. Roos was always aware the salary would be coming down with the renegotiation. He chose a media contract instead.

    4. When he decided to re-enter the AFL coaching arena he then made himself an enemy. Any player or coach that joins an opposing team is now an enemy as we are at war for the premiership with 17 other sides. We can still respect and love them but they are still the enemy. Love thy enemy LOL.

    Every time there is a player who is of interest to other sides suddenly Roos is looking at them for Melbourne according to the press. Malceski was touted as going to Melbourne, he's at Suns. O'Keefe was supposed to go to Demons, he's assistant at Adelaide. There was a rumour Smithy wished to return to Melbourne, immediately Roos' name pops up. Now Zac's older brother has committed to finishing his career at Demons the press automatically link Zac to play with his brother. Roos is suddenly the Big Bad Wolf stealing all our sheep/cattle. I think it is funny.

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    • JPK12
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Oct 2014
      • 246

      #32
      Well we did lose one of his sons to the dees! The boy who stood so proudly on the dais in 2005 with all his swans merch suddenly became a dee fan!

      Just like how i wanted to erase baz from the 2005 podium i want to do the same with dylan and the other jnr roos.

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      • wolftone57
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2008
        • 5835

        #33
        Originally posted by JPK12
        Well we did lose one of his sons to the dees! The boy who stood so proudly on the dais in 2005 with all his swans merch suddenly became a dee fan!

        Just like how i wanted to erase baz from the 2005 podium i want to do the same with dylan and the other jnr roos.
        Correct me if I am wrong JPK but Dylan & Tyler Roos cannot be drafted under the Father/Son rule as Roos only played 87 games for Sydney. The coaches & officials rule allowing sons of those to be father/son was abolished in 2012 I am led to believe. They are sons of a professional footballer and coach. In this they go dad and support him in whatever he is doing which is quite natural. I know you weren't talking father/son but a lot of people have. I don't think they owe us or the club any loyalty. Their father just worked for the Swans, it was a job. As for Baz we sacked him! Poor bastard was a bit hard done by I think. I realise his behaviour wasn't good but the way Roos handled that was poor. So much for being a good man manager. There are several players who hate Roos today, Andrew Dunkley being another.

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        • 0918330512
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2011
          • 1654

          #34
          Originally posted by JPK12
          Just like how i wanted to erase baz from the 2005 podium i want to do the same with dylan and the other jnr roos.
          Funny you should say that, I photoshopped the Jr. Roos kids out of the picture so I could frame it unblemished. Not a trace of them

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          • Jewels
            On the Rookie List
            • Oct 2006
            • 3258

            #35
            Originally posted by JPK12
            Just like how i wanted to erase baz from the 2005 podium i want to do the same with dylan and the other jnr roos.
            I wanted to do that immediately after it happened!
            Call me an old grouch but in my opinion we the members deserved to be on that dais as much if not more so than those boys!

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            • Plugger46
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2003
              • 3674

              #36
              Originally posted by Jewels
              How come so many Swans fans carry on about Roos and how he's now the enemy, yet when Hawthorn fans boo Buddy, its wrong? Its football, players and coaches come and go and just because they're no longer part of the Swans family we should never forget what they did for us when they were.
              Spot on Jewels.

              Owes us nothing. If he wasn't looking at recruiting from the Swans (one of the better teams/clubs in the comp) he wouldn't be doing his job correctly.
              Bloods

              "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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              • YvonneH
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2011
                • 1141

                #37
                I would rather 'our' boys go to the Demons rather than the Pies, Hawks or Bombers.

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                • Doctor
                  Bay 29
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 2757

                  #38
                  Just as any Premiership player should be welcomed back by the supporters, so should a Premiership coach. He's coaching against us now but I hold him no ill-will and wish him all the best, except when he's playing us. I would hope and expect that when his coaching career does finish that he is always welcome at Swans events such as the Skilton Medal and the like.
                  Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                  • wolftone57
                    Veterans List
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 5835

                    #39
                    Originally posted by YvonneH
                    I would rather 'our' boys go to the Demons rather than the Pies, Hawks or Bombers.
                    Sorry Yvonne demons are still an enemy. I'd rather our boys stay right where they are in the Nest. The D's just need a few battle hardened players and they will be in the mix for the eight. I see what Hawks & Cats are doing to keep in the premiership window and Sheedy did it before them. They get seasoned players from other clubs and plug holes. We don't want to feed them as they are the enemy. Roos or whoever takes over will go down that track at Melbourne. We have done the same thing over the years because of our unique position of nor being able to bottom here. By that I mean Sydney sports fans are fickle, if you are a winner they are on you, if you are a loser they are gone.

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                    • Matt80
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 1802

                      #40
                      Following the NFL over summer, there are some recruiting rules that we should be bringing into our game.

                      1) You should be able to trade for players during the regular football season. This could be open at the half way point of the regular season. This would allow teams greater flexibility in their list management.

                      2) Coaches and staff who are under contract can also be traded to other teams either for money, players or another staff member. This could happen more easily as there will be a cap on Football department spending.

                      That means that Zak Jones could join the Demons midway through 2015 in exchange for a key defender (if we had a key defender injury crisis).

                      We could also trade Stuart Dew out if he is under contract and gets offers a senior job. This could net us a good player or another good staff member.

                      The trading rules need to be more open. This is the NFL system, which equals "World Best Practice" .

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                      • erica
                        Happy and I know it
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1247

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Matt80
                        Following the NFL over summer, there are some recruiting rules that we should be bringing into our game.

                        1) You should be able to trade for players during the regular football season. This could be open at the half way point of the regular season. This would allow teams greater flexibility in their list management.

                        2) Coaches and staff who are under contract can also be traded to other teams either for money, players or another staff member. This could happen more easily as there will be a cap on Football department spending.

                        That means that Zak Jones could join the Demons midway through 2015 in exchange for a key defender (if we had a key defender injury crisis).

                        We could also trade Stuart Dew out if he is under contract and gets offers a senior job. This could net us a good player or another good staff member.

                        The trading rules need to be more open. This is the NFL system, which equals "World Best Practice" .
                        Not in my opinion.
                        All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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                        • Bloods05
                          Senior Player
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1641

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Matt80
                          This is the NFL system, which equals "World Best Practice" .
                          Why does it equal world best practice, Matt? Because it comes from the home of corporate excess and rampant inequality? Because it further entrenches the idea of footballers and coaches as tradeable commodities? Because you read it in an IPA manifesto? Or just because you say it does?

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                          • Untamed Snark
                            Senior Player
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 1375

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Matt80
                            Matt80 beats to his own drum.
                            You certainly do.
                            Chillin' with the strange Quarks

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                            • Ludwig
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                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              #44

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                              • Auntie.Gerald
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                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6474

                                #45
                                ouch
                                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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