2015 academy discussion thread (with some FS thrown in for good measure)

[Untamed Snark]

McGuire's threatening to quit if equalisation comes in. I'd suggest that he doesn't let the door hit him on the a**e on the way out.

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Neil Cordy has clearly had enough. He editorialises quite well in that piece, despite it being a news report rather than an opinion piece.

Where do we sign up to vote?
But seriously, what a massive tanty, something on the horizon that he doesn't like so he threatens to get his toys and go home
How on earth does it remain a respected member of the media?

[Mel_C]

It's funny how Eddie bangs on about equalisation but as soon as it is going to cost Collingwood anything he throws a tantrum. What a hypocrite!!

[S.S. Bleeder]

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At least the last 2 paragraphs of the article highlight the idiocy of his campaign.



I found the caption under the picture of McVeigh amusing, if not confusing, as I though the academy didn't start until 2010:



Well, coming from News Corp., what do you expect. Shortly to be followed by a chorus of Melbourne footy fans saying "First they got McVeigh, and now Heeney, enough is enough with those academy steals."

That was written by Neil Cordy of all people. Surely he will correct them on the McVeigh error.

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McGuire's threatening to quit if equalisation comes in. I'd suggest that he doesn't let the door hit him on the a**e on the way out.

Boy, would that be nice. He won't do it though.

[707]

Well written and well targetted piece of journalism.

Eddie is a lunatic and his continual illogical rantings are making him a laughing stock amongst intelligent AFL people.

How he can bang on about equalisation but then foam at the mouth about the AFLPA suggestion of better finance distribution shows how one eyed Collingwood he really is. For all his airplay time, one really hopes the AFL and the Commission start to ignore him and his Hawthorn sidekick.

The article doesn't say McVeigh was Academy, it says Heeney was the first NSW player taken in the first round SINCE McVeigh

[The Big Cat]

The article doesn't say McVeigh was Academy, it says Heeney was the first NSW player taken in the first round SINCE McVeigh

The caption under the photo says he was an academy product, but this would not have been Cordy's doing.

[Ludwig]

I had a listen to Eddie's equalisation rant on Triple M: http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/...-7th-may-2015/

It's really worth a listen. He has his usual crack at Isaac Heeney and the academy. He has truly made an enemy of the AFLPA, which has got to be a good thing.

Eddie's talent is that he has the ability to sound like he knows what he's talking about and unless you are reasonably informed on the issues you can be easily fooled. But any analysis of the details shows that is actually completely ignorant of the issues involved and comes to conclusions which are absolutely dead wrong.

The article states correctly that the AFLPA are armed with the ability to challenge the salary cap in the Supreme Court if they can't come to agreement with the AFL later this year.

And it is clear who will win that battle. In fact it is not even a battle as precedents have been made on numerous occasions. The AFL has to lose.

Eddie also goes on to rant about how the AFL is competing with Soccer and other sports for young talent, yet incredibly would cut the academies, the one vehicle to challenge for the attention of young athletes in the most important markets. It has been shown in surveys in the U.S., and perhaps elsewhere as well, that the sport one plays most when growing up will the sport most followed as an adult. So it's all about winning hearts and minds of the youth.

Eddie also makes this non-nonsensical statement:

?People will not buy memberships, sponsors will not come to clubs and volunteers will not be involved in driving the competition if it?s just going into a pot."

Fans care little about how much profit their club makes. It's only about performance on the field that matters. And if they did care, all it would mean is that memberships would grow for clubs receiving AFL distributions and make up for the losses from the rich clubs. Anyway, the whole premise is ridiculous, so why bother with logical arguments. Sponsors pay to get their names on jumpers. By Eddie's logic the best solution would be to have Collingwood A play Collingwood B as the only game of his own personal league.

[ernie koala]

These latest tirades from McGuire suggest he knows what's coming......Actual equalisation.

It's beautiful poetic justice, that the man who has been cherry picking what he wants abolished, in the name of equalisation... Retention money for Brisbane,

COLA for Sydney, and all the Northern Academies, now finds his own club in the equalisation firing line.....At least to some extent.

We'll never have the advantages of.... Minimal travel, bulk of our list being local products, the GF at our home ground...Not in the foreseeable future anyway.

But ensuring all clubs have the same amount of funds to spend, will go a long way to making the competition fair.

Suck it up McGuire.

[Jimitron5000]

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Equity doesn't equal equality. Assuming the picture upload works, Eddie is after the situation on the left whereas most reasonable people would see the situation on the right as most appropriate.

[707]

So what happened at the AFL Commission meeting on Tuesday regarding the academy and F/S draft rules? Am I correct in believing they sent it back to the AFL to work on it some more?

[Conor_Dillon]

So what happened at the AFL Commission meeting on Tuesday regarding the academy and F/S draft rules? Am I correct in believing they sent it back to the AFL to work on it some more?

That was last week I think? And the commission requested more information from Mark Evans before they could come to a consensus.

[dimelb]

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Equity doesn't equal equality. Assuming the picture upload works, Eddie is after the situation on the left whereas most reasonable people would see the situation on the right as most appropriate.

Nice one Jimitron5000.

[penga]

Eddie at it again.
Re equalisation:
"That is to have an uncompromised draft and not to have any of these other elements on the side, whether it's a cost-of-living component, or whether it's zones or whether it's academies, or anything else," he said.
Northern AFL clubs making draft unequal, says Eddie McGuire

Apart from Gill the Pill, who actually listens to Eddie? Even the Carlton supporters on that article, while wishing he was their president, could see right through his hipocrisy. He's the equivalent to a toddler having a tanty in the corner, and no one is taking any notice of him.

[707]

Liking this, by Callum Twomey on the AFL website coupla daze ago. I'm all for other players rising up the draft board and pushing Mills down down down!

"JACOB Weitering took six marks in the opening quarter, three of which were contested.

He jumped, stuck his hands out and wrapped them around the ball so tightly it sounded like it the Sherrin was about to pop each time.

He kicked the ball 60m out of the backline off two steps, and directed play.

That Weitering did all of it while playing for the NAB AFL Academy against Werribee's VFL side, and matched up against North Melbourne forward Majak Daw, made it even more impressive.

Since that 35-minute opening term last month at Simonds Stadium (the quarter stretched on and on), the key defender has been the clear favourite as this year's No.1 draft pick."

[S.S. Bleeder]

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Equity doesn't equal equality. Assuming the picture upload works, Eddie is after the situation on the left whereas most reasonable people would see the situation on the right as most appropriate.

Good one. Eddie, etc would be the Dad in the dark blue except that he would be standing on 3 boxes with the two kids on none.

[S.S. Bleeder]

I had a listen to Eddie's equalisation rant on Triple M: http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/...-7th-may-2015/

I can't bring myself to click on that. Anything that could possible show Triple M that Fat Eddie brings traffic to their website is a no go IMO.