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  • sharp9
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2003
    • 2508

    #91
    Originally posted by Dosser
    If we are going down that track then why not just call them the flyhalf?
    Because fly-halfs don't distribute the ball like quarterbacks in NFL or "loose, attacking defenders" in the AFL.

    Everyone understands what a quarterback does (in NFL) and everyone understands how that terminology relates to the Hodge position in the AFL. So it's all good :-) - apart from the whining, of course.

    BTW when you say "fly-half" do you mean First Five-eight?? Kiwi here.
    "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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    • sharp9
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 2508

      #92
      Originally posted by wolftone57
      I personally think we should avoid using terms from other games when describing position. In fact the Quarterback is not a back at all. His is an offensive role and he takes the ball from the kick off or restart of play and develops the play. He plays everywhere from the back to the forward. What is being described is a loose man in defence. Loose man does it for me. There are two roles here too if you include Hodge, loose man and spoiler. Mal was both at times until he started getting tagged. Spoiler or foil were the old names for these players in the VFL/SANFL/ WAFL/TFL days.
      It's not true that Quarterback is not a back. Yes, he's not a DEFENDER but whilst the Quarterback my indeed be all over the field (in NFL) he plays BEHIND the bulk of his team and distributes forward to them (usually). Loose man in AFL is more often associated with a Maxwell/Harley/Fletcher/Gibson type rather than a back-field playmaker. Hence the desire to find a title that suits. Quarterback is convenient shorthand.

      Traditionalists can complain about it but it's here to stay. You may as well try to stop kids from saying "versing"
      "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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      • Bloods05
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2008
        • 1641

        #93
        Originally posted by sharp9
        It's not true that Quarterback is not a back. Yes, he's not a DEFENDER but whilst the Quarterback my indeed be all over the field (in NFL) he plays BEHIND the bulk of his team and distributes forward to them (usually). Loose man in AFL is more often associated with a Maxwell/Harley/Fletcher/Gibson type rather than a back-field playmaker. Hence the desire to find a title that suits. Quarterback is convenient shorthand.

        Traditionalists can complain about it but it's here to stay. You may as well try to stop kids from saying "versing"
        I do.

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        • Nico
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 11355

          #94
          Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
          I think Reid is a chance to play at CHB regardless of whether or not Grundy or Richards are injured...there's merit in playing 3 talls (keeping in mind Sam and Ted can provide half-decent rebound as well) and freeing up the likes of Rampe or Rohan. I don't think anyone will argue with me when I say Gaz and Dane both play better as small defenders as opposed to the third tall anyway.
          But Gaz and Dane are not short so how do they play as short defenders.
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          • Conor_Dillon
            On the Rookie List
            • Jun 2013
            • 1224

            #95
            Originally posted by Nico
            But Gaz and Dane are not short so how do they play as short defenders.
            Sorry I meant small defenders as in they are playing on a small forward, they've both played that role with decent success.
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            • Primmy
              Proud Tragic Swan
              • Apr 2008
              • 5970

              #96
              I find it hard to refer to any of them being small.....except for Benny. they ALL tower over me!
              If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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              • S.S. Bleeder
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2014
                • 2165

                #97
                Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
                Sorry I meant small defenders as in they are playing on a small forward, they've both played that role with decent success.
                Rampe's probably our most versatile backman. He can play on talls and smalls. Our aim should be to have our set base of tall/small backman and for Rampe to be our "swingman backman". He's also got a good tank so he would be more than capable of stints in the midfield. The issue is that we already have a midfield glut.

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                • Doctor
                  Bay 29
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 2757

                  #98
                  Howdy all. I was there but was out all day Saturday and flew interstate Sunday so this is my first chance to log in to RWO since the game. Shameful of me!

                  I thought it was a great evening and am glad the Swans chose the venue and the timeslot. I thought the match itself was high on effort but a bit down on skill. Lloyd was fantastic until he got injured. McGlynn must have close to the best engine on the team now. He was running Hanners all over the place at times. I did like Aliir's work too and McLaren is also one to watch. Mitchell's performance was my highlight though. I did like Jetta at halfback mind you.
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                  • Auntie.Gerald
                    Veterans List
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6488

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                    my team based on how some of the snrs have come back and also taking into account the continual development of the rookies

                    on the SCG i would have Tip at FF and rotating thru the ruck definitely (now that his knee looks like he can jump into the ruck again)

                    obviously different match ups for different teams...........unfortunately I am still not sure about Rohan at the back as he didnt show much in the intra........but time will tell and he is a ready made replacement for Goodes role in 2016 if Goodes retires

                    2015 Team:

                    Goodes, Tip, Bird
                    Jack, Buddy, mcGlynn

                    Pyke
                    Kennedy
                    Parker
                    Hannes
                    HarryC
                    Lloyd

                    Rampe, Grundy, Macca
                    Smith, Ted, Shaw

                    19. Jetta
                    20. Reid
                    21. Mitchell
                    22. Rohan


                    23. Hiscox - this guy will play games in the Snrs in 2015 and the player that is under massive pressure is Gary Rohan to hold his spot in the 22. Also I think that if we change to a bit more of a Port Adelaide style of game plan in stages of a game we may see Hiscox push out one of our strong in and under players

                    24. Heeney - no doubt Heeney and Mitchell will be fighting for a spot initially and for me, Mitchell is ready by a length on Heeney, just for now as Heeney has been off legs a lot this preason

                    25. Jones - I think Shaw looked still very sharp and commanding in the trials..........so Jones will get his chance in time

                    26. Melican - very much our next AJ........say no more

                    27. Towers - wont look out of place and his endurance is now getting there

                    28. Brandon - BJ is on the rise and as his decision making keeps improving he will be worthy of a spot in the 22.

                    29. Laidler - it is a shame he has that laid back body language hence why he has such a lovely kick on him but he could certainly be needed in our back 6 rotation depending on how it goes with Reid playing a swingman role

                    30. Aliir - will anyone be able to stop this guy from featuring in our Snr back line ? he is a seriously exciting defender that may be a 10 year player for the Swans in my opinion. He is well ahead of Grundy and Ted at the same age

                    31. Robinson - so much like Birdy where they are very strong players but lack speed.........therefore how many slow vs fast players can you have rotating through your midfield is the big question. I dont think against the Hawks or Port in a Finals type game you can carry Parker, Kennedy, Bird, Macca, Mitchell, Robinson etc .........so for Robinson only gets in when we have a couple of injuries to midfielders in Snrs who are a little on the slow side

                    all other players like TD and X and Naismith etc can step up if need be but the above 9 players would be my picks to step in when needed
                    I listened to Macca SwansTV - Jarrad McVeigh Interview - sydneyswans.com.au and he alluded to Jetta having a significant role in the backs........he mentioned that himself and Laidler could also feature down back but definitely he mentioned Jetta as a significant back

                    The interesting person who was not mentioned in the backline was Gary Rohan missing from any discussion in the backs !
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