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  • Meg
    Go Swannies!
    Site Admin
    • Aug 2011
    • 4828

    #31
    Originally posted by Ludwig
    And what about this guy?
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    Well now, I didn't know about that Ludwig. I see he had an unhappy demise though so I hope you have a more cheerful name bearer in mind? (Not that I think the classical music Ludwig had cause to be cheerful in his later years either.)

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    • Ludwig
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 9359

      #32
      Far too many Ludwigs had sad endings, but supposedly Wittgenstein's last words were that he had a wonderful life.

      Anyway, all those other Ludwigs are long gone, but I'm still kicking along, or perhaps punting along, it's all so confusing.

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      • dimelb
        pr. dim-melb; m not f
        • Jun 2003
        • 6889

        #33
        A musical Ludwig? Do you mean the drum bloke?
        He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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        • Meg
          Go Swannies!
          Site Admin
          • Aug 2011
          • 4828

          #34
          Originally posted by dimelb
          A musical Ludwig? Do you mean the drum bloke?
          That Ring(o)s a bell. You mean that footy Starr?

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          • stellation
            scott names the planets
            • Sep 2003
            • 9721

            #35
            Originally posted by Danzar
            Kick ins are kick outs. It's pretty damn obvious what they're doing and if everyone has been calling it thus forever, what idiot thinks it's a good idea to invent something new?
            As one on the side of kick-ins, I'm pretty sure even the rules of the game refer to it as kicking in to the field of play as opposed to kicking out of the goal square.*


            * I can't be bothered looking, so might be completely wrong but just thought I'd throw some form of authority behind things.
            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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            • dimelb
              pr. dim-melb; m not f
              • Jun 2003
              • 6889

              #36
              The Laws:

              13. KICKING THE FOOTBALL INTO PLAY AFTER A BEHIND
              HAS BEEN SCORED
              13.1 FOOTBALL MUST BE KICKED
              Unless Law 12.4 applies, when a Behind has been recorded, the
              following shall apply:
              (a) the football must be Kicked back into play by any Player of the
              defending Team within a reasonable time;
              (b) the football must be Kicked from within the Goal Square. For
              the avoidance of doubt, one foot of the Player must be behind
              any of the lines which define the Goal Square at the time when
              the Player Kicks the football;
              (c) Other than the Player kicking the football into play, all
              Players must immediately vacate the area within 5 metres
              of the Goal Square.
              (d) the Player Kicking the football into play may, provided they have
              Kicked the football clear from their hands, regain possession
              and play on from within the Goal Square.


              Presumably the ball has been out of play and is going back in!
              He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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              • ScottH
                It's Goodes to cheer!!
                • Sep 2003
                • 23665

                #37
                Originally posted by Nico
                I thought you "hailed a Taxi".
                I hailed a taxi once.
                The driver got upset at me for denting his cab.

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                • ScottH
                  It's Goodes to cheer!!
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 23665

                  #38
                  And from the glossary of all wisdom:

                  Kick-in
                  (or sometimes kick-out) the return of the ball back into play after a behind has been scored.


                  Glossary of Australian rules football - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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                  • magic.merkin
                    Senior Player
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 1199

                    #39
                    Originally posted by dimelb
                    The Laws:

                    13. KICKING THE FOOTBALL INTO PLAY AFTER A BEHIND
                    HAS BEEN SCORED
                    13.1 FOOTBALL MUST BE KICKED
                    Unless Law 12.4 applies, when a Behind has been recorded, the
                    following shall apply:
                    (a) the football must be Kicked back into play by any Player of the
                    defending Team within a reasonable time;
                    (b) the football must be Kicked from within the Goal Square. For
                    the avoidance of doubt, one foot of the Player must be behind
                    any of the lines which define the Goal Square at the time when
                    the Player Kicks the football;
                    (c) Other than the Player kicking the football into play, all
                    Players must immediately vacate the area within 5 metres
                    of the Goal Square.
                    (d) the Player Kicking the football into play may, provided they have
                    Kicked the football clear from their hands, regain possession
                    and play on from within the Goal Square.


                    Presumably the ball has been out of play and is going back in!
                    And that process starts from the goal square which the player kicks it out of

                    Really I'm only arguing the point as we all know what's occurring regardless, it's had a term since day dot, so why the need to change? Does it keep me up at night? Nope :d

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                    • magic.merkin
                      Senior Player
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1199

                      #40
                      Originally posted by DamY
                      So many rules and jargon! AFL is a niche sport, shouldn't we be doing all we can to increase participation and not turn our noses up at people that don't speak "our language"? If someone says ref, just kindly remind them that it's called an umpire in AFL. Don't need to make people feel bad for enjoying AFL. Or maybe we shouldn't even call it AFL, we should call it Australian Rules only and AFL only refers to the top-tier league of Australian Rules

                      But yes, to be fair commentators should know what they're talking about considering that's what they're paid to do (comment on the game)
                      yes it's a niche local sport, so we should be trying to keep it's unique identity in tact. That's what makes it special. I don't think anyone on here is targeting newcomers. It's more a commentary on the landscape of the game, and one that is butchered mostly (as well as encouraged) by commentary teams and personalities trying to make them selves stand out. Newcomers will most likely be watching live games to have it explained to them, and they get derwayne and his mates dribbling about paint and whatnot.

                      And yes it should be referred to Aussie Rules when being specific as that's what it is as a sport. I play basketball twice a week not NBA ;d

                      Call it footy i guess depending which state you are in and what the dominant football code is.

                      All fun and games.

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                      • magic.merkin
                        Senior Player
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1199

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Bloods05
                        I'll cop "first grade" but I draw the line at "Souths".
                        i don't use it personally, I'm too young. But that's the club many have supported from birth. If we share it's history then good on anyone for cheering on their souths.

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                        • JPK12
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 246

                          #42
                          I was thinking about this for just half a second..do we really want our commentary to sound like ch 9 cricket? Do we really want warneisms and all the other stuff that makes me reach for the mute button?

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                          • stellation
                            scott names the planets
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 9721

                            #43
                            Originally posted by magic.merkin
                            And that process starts from the goal square which the player kicks it out of

                            Really I'm only arguing the point as we all know what's occurring regardless, it's had a term since day dot, so why the need to change? Does it keep me up at night? Nope :d
                            I actually thought kick-in was the term since day dot!
                            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                            • magic.merkin
                              Senior Player
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1199

                              #44
                              Originally posted by stellation
                              I actually thought kick-in was the term since day dot!
                              Maybe it's a Tassie thing?

                              I dunno, lets just hug it out and put it with bannanas and checksides.

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                              • Conor_Dillon
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 1224

                                #45
                                Far out...this is a classic case of 'everyone is really bored because there's no proper footy on'. Round 1 cannot come quickly enough!
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