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  • Matt80
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Sep 2013
    • 1802

    #16
    Originally posted by Mug Punter


    An excellent summation....

    I think he will be given a chance but equally I think we may well be quite active in the trading period this year and it wouldn't surprise me to see any or all of him, Jetta and Reid be up as trade-bait if they are not producing the goods
    With the bidding points system, I think we need a top 3 pick to have a chance at securing both Mills and Dunkley. In my opinion, Jetta is a 15-25 pick and Reid is a 20-30 pick, on their current output. Packaging them up would not be an option, due to them both originating from different States.

    The only Swans players with a top 3 pick value are Franklin, Kennedy, Parker and Hannas.

    It could be an interesting post season.

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    • mcs
      Travelling Swannie!!
      • Jul 2007
      • 8177

      #17
      Originally posted by Matt80
      With the bidding points system, I think we need a top 3 pick to have a chance at securing both Mills and Dunkley. In my opinion, Jetta is a 15-25 pick and Reid is a 20-30 pick, on their current output. Packaging them up would not be an option, due to them both originating from different States.

      The only Swans players with a top 3 pick value are Franklin, Kennedy, Parker and Hannas.

      It could be an interesting post season.
      How about we worry about the actual 'season' first....
      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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      • Jewels
        On the Rookie List
        • Oct 2006
        • 3258

        #18
        Originally posted by mcs
        How about we worry about the actual 'season' first....
        Excellent idea!

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        • Beerman
          Regular in the Side
          • Oct 2010
          • 823

          #19
          Originally posted by Matt80
          No need to keep harping on the point, but Mitchell, Kennedy, Parker and Bird were not selected in the same side this week.
          We get the point, Matt - I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you. It is the selection policy that has everyone frustrated.

          I think many here would be happy to sacrifice a bit of speed for Mitchell's ability to win the ball a bit more inside and deliver it better to the outside players. (cf. your post about Hawthorn's strengths).

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          • Beerman
            Regular in the Side
            • Oct 2010
            • 823

            #20
            Originally posted by Matt80
            With the bidding points system, I think we need a top 3 pick to have a chance at securing both Mills and Dunkley. In my opinion, Jetta is a 15-25 pick and Reid is a 20-30 pick, on their current output. Packaging them up would not be an option, due to them both originating from different States.

            The only Swans players with a top 3 pick value are Franklin, Kennedy, Parker and Hannas.

            It could be an interesting post season.
            I thought we could spend points from future drafts, and go negative. Kind of like....an overdraft (boom, tish! Thanks folks, I'm here all winter. Try the veal).

            But seriously, can't we? And if we could, would we be willing to blow two years worth of picks in one year if we think the players are good enough? Personally, I wouldn't mind us doing that. Not much difference between drafting a kid this year and drafting one next year, except that you get to start developing him a year earlier.

            Edit: This link seems to suggest I'm correct http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-01-2...g-system-close, particularly this quote

            Under the proposal, clubs who want to obtain more than one player eligible in a single year as an academy or father-son pick will be able to make up the points requirement the following season. To do this, the outstanding points will be taken from the club's first round pick the next season, forcing the club to slide down the draft table according to the points that remain.
            Last edited by Beerman; 10 April 2015, 01:17 PM. Reason: Because I'm right!

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            • gazza
              Warming the Bench
              • Mar 2005
              • 329

              #21
              i saw mitchell at startrack against gws.he did nothing to excite me or convince me that he is a senior.can't keep trading off one game in the ressies
              forgotten 1996
              2005 a much sweeter memory,2012 even better

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              • S.S. Bleeder
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2014
                • 2165

                #22
                Originally posted by Mug Punter


                An excellent summation....

                I think he will be given a chance but equally I think we may well be quite active in the trading period this year and it wouldn't surprise me to see any or all of him, Jetta and Reid be up as trade-bait if they are not producing the goods
                Hope you're right. Those later two need to go. Especially whilst we'll get a decent draft pick for them.

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                Originally posted by Matt80
                The only Swans players with a top 3 pick value are Franklin, Kennedy, Parker and Hannas.
                What about Mitchell?

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                • Matt80
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 1802

                  #23
                  Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                  Hope you're right. Those later two need to go. Especially whilst we'll get a decent draft pick for them.

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                  What about Mitchell?
                  Not worth a top 3 pick. I think he is now worth between a 12 - 20 pick and his value is decreasing with each NEAFL game he has to play.

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                  • Mug Punter
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 3325

                    #24
                    Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                    Hope you're right. Those later two need to go. Especially whilst we'll get a decent draft pick for them.

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                    What about Mitchell?
                    At the extreme risk of generating a trade bait debate after only 1 game my excellent analysis (cough cough) in another thread would indicate that we really only need to trade a late first round or early second rounder (17 - 21) to take the edge of the penalties. Unless they have shocking seasons I think any of Reid, Jetta or Mitchell would be rated in that bracket.

                    I hate to say it but the more I see of the F/S and Academy proposal the more I think it may be fair. They should make the F/S 25% I think but that's just my opinion

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                    • tasmania60
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 276

                      #25
                      People if hes on the trade block .needs games, for added value ,simply cant give good players away like Mumford !

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                      • jono2707
                        Goes up to 11
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 3326

                        #26
                        How about we just keep him? He's young. Had a few injuries. He will be really good.
                        Please?

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                        • Matt80
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 1802

                          #27
                          Originally posted by jono2707
                          How about we just keep him? He's young. Had a few injuries. He will be really good.
                          Please?
                          I agree. I think he is a terrific young man.

                          I only worry about what is going to happen if Kennedy, Parker and Bird have really good starts to the season, and none of them get injured. It's conceivable that Tom could play the 1st 10 rounds in the reserves without a senior call up.

                          If that happens there are going to be a few noses out of joint. There is a Mitchell thread on BF that is exploding.

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                          • chalbilto
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 1139

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Matt80
                            I agree. I think he is a terrific young man.

                            I only worry about what is going to happen if Kennedy, Parker and Bird have really good starts to the season, and none of them get injured. It's conceivable that Tom could play the 1st 10 rounds in the reserves without a senior call up.

                            If that happens there are going to be a few noses out of joint. There is a Mitchell thread on BF that is exploding.
                            He is a gun. It would be utter lunacy to let him go. He can play a long side with Kennedy, Parker & Bird as they can rotate. Bird excels as a tagger. Mitchell excels as an extractor, hands balls superbly and finds space to receive the ball. I can see Goodes & Shaw retiring so he can fill a permanent spot. There is a lot of hype regarding Mills and I am sure he will be a gun, but he will need to be developed to cope with the difference of standards as compared to the under 18s. In the interim Mitchell is already "battle hardened" so why not keep him. With regards to BF why take heed of the drivel that posters espouse. Sure there are some sensible knowledgeable posters, but they are outnumbered by the biased ignorant feral supporters of all clubs.

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                            • wolftone57
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 5861

                              #29
                              Originally posted by gazza
                              i saw mitchell at startrack against gws.he did nothing to excite me or convince me that he is a senior.can't keep trading off one game in the ressies
                              Well he averages 19 disposals at senior level already and he has only played 15 games. Not too many new AFL players do that. The average is 9. So I don't know about you but I think that makes him an AFL player mate.

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                              Originally posted by Matt80
                              I agree. I think he is a terrific young man.

                              I only worry about what is going to happen if Kennedy, Parker and Bird have really good starts to the season, and none of them get injured. It's conceivable that Tom could play the 1st 10 rounds in the reserves without a senior call up.

                              If that happens there are going to be a few noses out of joint. There is a Mitchell thread on BF that is exploding.
                              If Macmuffin goes back to HB then they can all play in the same team. Parks goes to inside/outside as he can play that role.

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                              • wolftone57
                                Veterans List
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 5861

                                #30
                                Reserves game today at Ainsley; Mitchell 16, Benny 14, Hewett 14. There you go more possessions than Benny. Using it better too by the commentary from Arwon on Twitter.

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