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  • tasmania60
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    • Jul 2013
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    Horses coaching

    Watching game live and it seems coaching is a bit pro active ,creative different swans ?
  • Conor_Dillon
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    • Jun 2013
    • 1224

    #2
    Originally posted by tasmania60
    Watching game live and it seems coaching is a bit pro active ,creative different swans ?
    Agree 100%. Everything they tried we had answers for tonight. Ken Hinkley looked bordering on helpless in the coaches box at times.
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    • stevoswan
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      • Sep 2014
      • 8560

      #3
      Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
      Agree 100%. Everything they tried we had answers for tonight. Ken Hinkley looked bordering on helpless in the coaches box at times.
      They went in with a great game plan, were up and going, then reacted well to Port's moves. So Horse is good when we're going well, it's his 'reactivity' when we're down and going badly that I still worry about. A bit of boldness at the selection table might be good too, but so far this year, he seems to be making the right calls. I'd like to see Mitchell in soon, maybe a bit of midfield rotation resting players(ie; Heeney and the older guns for a break when needed) against lower sides later in the season could be good, giving Mitchell and others like Hewitt a taste. It's hard though with the midfield depth, we've still got to fit McGlynn in there somewhere!! Horse must be smiling at the moment.....

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      • Hotpotato
        Senior Player
        • Jun 2014
        • 2271

        #4
        They (all the 'Horses') must detest being on camera, especially after a 'coach killer' .
        Hinkley looked like he was watching

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        • dimelb
          pr. dim-melb; m not f
          • Jun 2003
          • 6889

          #5
          Originally posted by stevoswan
          They went in with a great game plan, were up and going, then reacted well to Port's moves. So Horse is good when we're going well, it's his 'reactivity' when we're down and going badly that I still worry about. A bit of boldness at the selection table might be good too, but so far this year, he seems to be making the right calls. I'd like to see Mitchell in soon, maybe a bit of midfield rotation resting players(ie; Heeney and the older guns for a break when needed) against lower sides later in the season could be good, giving Mitchell and others like Hewitt a taste. It's hard though with the midfield depth, we've still got to fit McGlynn in there somewhere!! Horse must be smiling at the moment.....
          I think Goodes in the green vest showed a bit of boldness on Horse's part.

          And in today's Age Jude is quoted as saying Adam's game against Essendon was "shocking". I think we may well see other changes when they're needed, or provide an advantage.
          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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          • Auntie.Gerald
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            • Oct 2009
            • 6480

            #6
            agree dimelb

            it was the right call by the snr players group and the coaches re Goodes and given McGlynn is back very soon ready for Snrs it will make Adams plight even more challenging

            if Towers evolves and shows continual evolvement he will keep Goodes from starting as the small forward role. Other selections such as Gary Rohan also push Adam down the list ...........I just have that feeling we are about to see Gazza start to shine.......the players and coaches have given him a stack of game time with fairly sub par performances and he has started to show glimpses of what he can do.

            Towers and Rohan after a whole season thru 2015 will add alot more to the teams capacity and flexibility than Goodes as a small forward

            If Gary took a couple more of those marks it could have been his best game for a while against Port

            so back to the main point Goodes to Sub was critically important coaching against Port equally Jake Lloyd playing long minutes was the right call
            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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            • Matt80
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Sep 2013
              • 1802

              #7
              I just can't get my head around the concept of Goodes being dropped.

              Come on Adam. At training tell the rehab and physio guys to sit down. Throw away your modified grid. Get involved in full contact training. Knock some guys to the ground, get in a scuffle if you have to.

              Get angry. Don't let anyone think that you are going to the NEAFL without some blokes feeling some pain.

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              • mcs
                Travelling Swannie!!
                • Jul 2007
                • 8168

                #8
                Originally posted by Matt80
                I just can't get my head around the concept of Goodes being dropped.

                Come on Adam. At training tell the rehab and physio guys to sit down. Throw away your modified grid. Get involved in full contact training. Knock some guys to the ground, get in a scuffle if you have to.

                Get angry. Don't let anyone think that you are going to the NEAFL without some blokes feeling some pain.
                I can. If he isn't in the best 22 for a match, then he will be dropped - as sad as that is for a champion like Goodes.

                Your suggestion however is bizarre - basically telling him to get antsy and try to injure his team mates in order to keep his spot in the team? Sounds like the last thing that Goodes would do, being the outstanding ambassador for our club that he is.

                You never cease to amaze with some of your more 'out there' posts.....
                "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                • Matt80
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 1802

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mcs
                  I can. If he isn't in the best 22 for a match, then he will be dropped - as sad as that is for a champion like Goodes.

                  Your suggestion however is bizarre - basically telling him to get antsy and try to injure his team mates in order to keep his spot in the team? Sounds like the last thing that Goodes would do, being the outstanding ambassador for our club that he is.

                  You never cease to amaze with some of your more 'out there' posts.....
                  I did not say injure his team mates. I said that he needs to make a physical statement at training this week. It's a contact sport. When you are under pressure for your spot, you need to let everyone at training know that you mean business and that you will fight hard.

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                  • 0918330512
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1654

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Matt80
                    Come on Adam. At training tell the rehab and physio guys to sit down. Throw away your modified grid. Get involved in full contact training. Knock some guys to the ground, get in a scuffle if you have to.

                    Get angry. Don't let anyone think that you are going to the NEAFL without some blokes feeling some pain.
                    Originally posted by mcs
                    Your suggestion however is bizarre - basically telling him to get antsy and try to injure his team mates in order to keep his spot in the team? Sounds like the last thing that Goodes would do, being the outstanding ambassador for our club that he is.

                    You never cease to amaze with some of your more 'out there' posts.....
                    Originally posted by Matt80
                    I did not say injure his team mates. I said that he needs to make a physical statement at training this week. It's a contact sport. When you are under pressure for your spot, you need to let everyone at training know that you mean business and that you will fight hard.
                    actually, it kinda sounds like you did
                    Last edited by 0918330512; 13 April 2015, 10:52 AM.

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                    • penga
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2601

                      #11
                      Towers is softer than Trent Dennis-Lane, if that is possible. Some of his tackling efforts, and strength in the contest, were absolutely deplorable on Sat night. I don't care if Mitchell is slower, I would much rather a bloke in a red and white guernsey showing that he is willing to put his body on the line, than a fast bloke not willing to damage his fingernails.

                      Towers to be dropped, and de-listed at the end of the season, for mine.
                      C'mon Chels!

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                      • Matt80
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 1802

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 09183305
                        actually, it kinda sounds like you did
                        No I did not. Anyone who has been on "dropped row" (on the verge of being dropped) as Adam is now, knows the importance of having a high intensity week on the track. He needs to show the coaches that he is highly motivated to give the pressure and physical acts that the Swans are famous for.

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8168

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Matt80
                          "dropped row" .
                          Not everything needs its own term for goodness sake!

                          A high intensive week on the training track is a lot different to 'knock some guys to the ground' and make them 'feel the pain!
                          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                          • Zlatorog
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 1748

                            #14
                            Whether we like it or not writing is on the wall for Adam. After round 3 we'll know where he is in the pecking order. Longmire will renegade him into NEAFL like he did with ROK.

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                            • Ludwig
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                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              #15
                              Originally posted by penga
                              Towers is softer than Trent Dennis-Lane, if that is possible. Some of his tackling efforts, and strength in the contest, were absolutely deplorable on Sat night. I don't care if Mitchell is slower, I would much rather a bloke in a red and white guernsey showing that he is willing to put his body on the line, than a fast bloke not willing to damage his fingernails.

                              Towers to be dropped, and de-listed at the end of the season, for mine.
                              You're on the right track about Towers, but perhaps a bit extreme. He doesn't have a good tackling technique and needs to improve his approach to the contest. He was was battered about by Alipate Carlisle, who is a big bloke, and I think Towers got a bit gun shy. I think this will be pointed out to him in the game review. We have to see how he adjusts. I think Cunningham was the one chosen to make way for Macca for similar reasons.

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