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  • GongSwan
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2009
    • 1362

    #16
    Originally posted by Matt80
    I can't disagree. I will have to improve.
    you might have to wear the vest, I'l show myself out...............
    You can't argue with a sick mind - Joe Walsh

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    • Ludwig
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 9359

      #17
      Another worry from the 1st 3 games is how useless Pyke has been around the ground. He's more than adequate as a tap ruckman, but after the ruck contest, he's become a real liability. He doesn't take the marks around the ground like he used to; his kicking and decision making are woeful.

      We also haven't used Tippett all that much in the forward line. Buddy has really become the dominant primary target. So here's a suggestion certain not to be considered seriously: Why don't we drop Pyke and have Tippett and Reid split the ruck and 2nd tall forward duties? We can use the extra spot for another midfielder. I think we play better with a more open forward line.

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      • mcs
        Travelling Swannie!!
        • Jul 2007
        • 8149

        #18
        Originally posted by Ludwig
        Another worry from the 1st 3 games is how useless Pyke has been around the ground. He's more than adequate as a tap ruckman, but after the ruck contest, he's become a real liability. He doesn't take the marks around the ground like he used to; his kicking and decision making are woeful.

        We also haven't used Tippett all that much in the forward line. Buddy has really become the dominant primary target. So here's a suggestion certain not to be considered seriously: Why don't we drop Pyke and have Tippett and Reid split the ruck and 2nd tall forward duties? We can use the extra spot for another midfielder. I think we play better with a more open forward line.
        The problem there is that Tippett has to be primary ruck - as Reid has little experience there (bar the odd pinch hitting). Its putting a huge risk on a fragile body to have him always in there as primary ruckman.

        Pyke isn't having the impact he once had, but until one of the younger rucks really kicks on - we are going to have to persevere.
        "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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        • lwjoyner
          Regular in the Side
          • Nov 2004
          • 942

          #19
          get off reids back, I think he played Ok against GWS

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          • aardvark
            Veterans List
            • Mar 2010
            • 5685

            #20
            Originally posted by Ludwig
            Another worry from the 1st 3 games is how useless Pyke has been around the ground. He's more than adequate as a tap ruckman, but after the ruck contest, he's become a real liability. He doesn't take the marks around the ground like he used to; his kicking and decision making are woeful.
            Stats show Mumford 13 possies and 28 H/O, Pyke 10 Possies and 25 H/O, Tippett 8 possies and 12 H/O. Seeing Tippett is usually our starting ruckman maybe he's a bigger problem than Pyke.

            Having said that I'd like to see Pyke throw his weight around a bit more.
            Last edited by aardvark; 19 April 2015, 03:14 PM.

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            • RogueSwan
              McVeigh for Brownlow
              • Apr 2003
              • 4602

              #21
              Originally posted by mcs
              The guy is just frustrating as he has always been 'nearly' there...
              He is suffering from "Saddingtonitis"

              Originally posted by frankee
              Sam Reid - 46 AF Points
              Ted Richards - 43 AF Points

              Just saying...
              The difference was that Reid drifted up the ground for one inside50.
              How about:
              Sam Reid - efficiency 54%
              Richards - efficiency 67%
              Just saying :-)
              Oh, and BTW those criticising Grundy's kicking his efficiency was fourth best with 86%
              Heeney was on top with 100%!
              Lloydy 91% (24 disposals)
              "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                #22
                Originally posted by aardvark
                Stats show Mumford 13 possies and 28 H/O, Pyke 10 Possies and 25 H/O, Tippett 8 possies and 12 H/O. Seeing Tippett is usually our starting ruckman maybe he's a bigger problem than Pyke.
                Pyke spent far more time in the ruck than Tippett. I am more than happy with Pyke's ruck work. It's his contribution after the ruck contest. As an opposition player, I would love to see the ball in Pyke's hands. The real stat that matters is the number of times the camera switches up to the coaches box to see Horse going off his face after a Pyke disposal.




                My feeling is that we are just waiting for Naismith to get more time under his belt for Pyke get's replaced. I think it's important that the ruckman needs to contribute around the grand. He has to take a mark and be able to kick the ball and hit a target.

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                • aguy
                  Senior Player
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 1324

                  #23
                  The defence was noticeably less organised without smith playing. Having said that Richards was his usual composed self and Grundy was less fumbly than usual. Rampe was a bit quiet but he was coming off a big game last week.

                  Smith definitely comes in if he's fit.

                  Who goes out is a little difficult. I don't think any of the young guys should be sub twice in a row as they need the match development. Towers needs either a full game in seniors or reserves. Cunningham was much improved and distributed well off half back and has played well against freo before so I would keep both Cunningham and towers in the starting 21. As long as Heeney is ok after tackling the post I would start him too because he is building so well with buddy.

                  I think I would actually give the subs vest to mcglynn this week. He is just making his way back into the team off his injury. By being sub he is managed a little. If Heeney starts but doesn't run the game out mcglynn is a like for like sub. Additionally mcglynn can come in place of a tall if needed if we find we need something extra at ground level.

                  Just my thoughts.
                  IN Smith
                  OUT Towers
                  SUB Mcglynn

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                  • barry
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 8499

                    #24
                    I think goodes and laidler are fighting for 1 spot in the team. Not half back flanker or anything like that, but "slowest player". We get exposed for pace if both are playing.

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                    • RogueSwan
                      McVeigh for Brownlow
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 4602

                      #25
                      Originally posted by barry
                      I think goodes and laidler are fighting for 1 spot in the team. Not half back flanker or anything like that, but "slowest player". We get exposed for pace if both are playing.
                      Laidler kept up with White in the Power match, he is not slow. But maybe if enough people say it often enough....
                      "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                      • tasmania60
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 276

                        #26
                        Watched towers has a few issues

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                        • Ludwig
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          #27
                          Originally posted by tasmania60
                          Watched towers has a few issues
                          A few too many issues for my liking

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                          • ernie koala
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2007
                            • 3251

                            #28
                            It's ironic reading posts wanting Reid dropped and saying he will never replace Teddy...

                            As a forward, Ted was not as effective as Reid and was put in defence as a last resort, he only got a reprieve due to injury....

                            So history would say, give Reid time to find his feet as a defender. He's already an excellent spoiler, has good skills and size.

                            His decision making, as a defender, is his weakness at present. Game time, as a defender, should solve this issue...

                            I think he's going OK, and don't think he'll be dropped anytime soon.

                            I like the way Laidler plays, he has a relatively limited skill set but he takes his opponent on, and takes the game on, when he gets the chance...He's a brave player in that respect.

                            Towers performance as sub was predictably ineffective. Hope not to see him and Cunningham on the same team.

                            OUT : Towers

                            IN : Smith

                            No idea about who should be sub.
                            Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                            • Mug Punter
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 3325

                              #29
                              I find Reid frustrating but I think he needs to be given every chance.

                              I'd be going Smith IN and Towers OUT - unlike some I rate Towers but suspect he may be trade bait at year end

                              And I'd have Harry as the Sub

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                              • DA_Swan
                                Warming the Bench
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 322

                                #30
                                Can't believe some want Reid out especially given that we are playing against Fremantle this week who would be the tallest team in the league - his good far outweighs his bad to us

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