Match Day Round 10 Swans vs. Suns

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  • CureTheSane
    Carpe Noctem
    • Jan 2003
    • 5032

    If you feel that the performance was 100% and all players played to their peak, then fair enough.

    I don't consider being critical of various aspects of any game as being negative.
    It's kinda what passionate supporters do, strive for their team to be the best it can be, and they will be critical when they see fit.

    Don't understand all of the "why the negativity" comments...
    The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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    • Doctor
      Bay 29
      • Sep 2003
      • 2757

      Originally posted by mariachi
      Doesn't JPK have a newborn in the house? Could that help explain a drop in intensity?
      Well and truly. Not saying that's why, but it wouldn't be surprising if it was.
      Today's a draft of your epitaph

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      • wolftone57
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2008
        • 5835

        Originally posted by Meg
        Cheer up you lot. Essendon just played about the worst first half of footy I've ever watched. And it was under the closed roof at Etihad so no rain, dew or wind.
        Yes and Cats punished them for it. mind you this round, other than Wretchmond, has been forgettable. I watched GWS and listened to the Hawks game after. GWS have caught ennui from us and Hawks are about on par with us apparently according to the commentators. apparently until the last they were way behind on most stats but well up on the scoreboard. they doubled that in the last but according to commentators were not convincing at all. Interesting. I don't know if it is because the break is coming up and our opposition has been very weak but we are playing as though we just expect it to happen without bothering to put in a huge effort. Horse was really unhappy with the intensity last week and he was angry this week. His face was so red I thought he was going to explode.

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        • Industrial Fan
          Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
          • Aug 2006
          • 3317

          Originally posted by CureTheSane
          If you feel that the performance was 100% and all players played to their peak, then fair enough.

          I don't consider being critical of various aspects of any game as being negative.
          It's kinda what passionate supporters do, strive for their team to be the best it can be, and they will be critical when they see fit.

          Don't understand all of the "why the negativity" comments...
          thats not really representative of what I'm saying. Granted there is room for a lot of improvement, but my point is the players did what they had to do to get 4 points and as such it is not a yard stick as to whether we'll be competitive when it counts.

          My issue is that people are saying skills are deplorable or player x or y isn't up to it based on that game.

          Of course you are allowed to say you thought someone played crap or the centre clearance work was rubbish etc. but for the bigger picture look at some of the other games we've played.
          He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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          • Sandridge
            Outer wing, Lake Oval
            • Apr 2010
            • 2049

            Originally posted by CureTheSane
            If you feel that the performance was 100% and all players played to their peak, then fair enough.

            I don't consider being critical of various aspects of any game as being negative.
            It's kinda what passionate supporters do, strive for their team to be the best it can be, and they will be critical when they see fit.

            Don't understand all of the "why the negativity" comments...
            So if you look for positives and don't criticise, you're not a passionate supporter?

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            • Gary
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2005
              • 608

              Originally posted by Sandridge
              So if you look for positives and don't criticise, you're not a passionate supporter?
              The only positive was that we did win ... but we are a side that needs to look deeper than that ... the Coach seems more attuned to the reality of that performance than the "positive" gang on here ... perhaps you can be positive and passionate ... but if you want to be a realist you acknowledge the awfulness of the performance.

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              • SA Swan
                On the Rookie List
                • Jun 2014
                • 32

                I think Horse's point was that we put the cue in the rack and coasted for a period of time. We did not go in for the kill. We played just well enough to win.

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                • Wardy
                  The old Boiler!
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 6676

                  Look from this "positive persons point of view " a wins a win (and I'm not sorry for saying it!) we are outright 2nd on the ladder !!! Surely that's good enough??? (There are far more important things in the world to get your knickers in a twist about!)
                  I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
                  Chickens drink - but they don't pee!
                  AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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                  • Sandridge
                    Outer wing, Lake Oval
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 2049

                    Originally posted by Gary
                    The only positive was that we did win ... but we are a side that needs to look deeper than that ... the Coach seems more attuned to the reality of that performance than the "positive" gang on here ... perhaps you can be positive and passionate ... but if you want to be a realist you acknowledge the awfulness of the performance.
                    But that's the coaches job, isn't I? That's why he gets paid the big bucks. I don't think he needs me to emphasize that we could've done better. He knows it and is much better equipped than me to fix it.
                    In the meantime, I'll stay positive and passionate. Yes, we could have played much better last Saturday. But there's only one other club that wouldn't want to swap ladder positions with us at the moment. Glass half full!
                    Go the mighty Bloods!

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                    • Hotpotato
                      Senior Player
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 2261

                      Well, I'm very happy with one Swans stat , points against: 644 , 11 less than Freo and the least of any other team.
                      That will do me.
                      Hope we can beat North .

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                      • Wardy
                        The old Boiler!
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 6676

                        And Longmire has spoken - (I can't attach the link from Facebook ) but it's saying to those outside the club who criticize Tippett need to be Careful with what they say. They don't know the ins & outs of their strategy or goings on. That's a bit of a "stick it in your pipe and smoke it!" Kind of statement. (It will be on the swans website)
                        I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
                        Chickens drink - but they don't pee!
                        AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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                        • Bloodthirsty
                          On the Rookie List
                          • May 2013
                          • 607

                          I think I can sum up the discontent here:

                          The telecast listed all the Suns players out and their Swans equivalents, which I thought were reasonable comparisons. Imagine those 13-15 players out (the best Swans players) and Sydney playing Hawthorn. What would the scoreline be?

                          The answer is obvious: Much greater than 50 points. Why? Talent is on par (if not more of it in the Swans), so it must be hunger. I think that is what concerns some people, rightly or wrongly.
                          "Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the Swans win pretty."

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                          • R-1
                            Senior Player
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 1042

                            One good thing is we seem to be managing injuries pretty well

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                            • Nico
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 11329

                              Originally posted by Wardy
                              Look from this "positive persons point of view " a wins a win (and I'm not sorry for saying it!) we are outright 2nd on the ladder !!! Surely that's good enough??? (There are far more important things in the world to get your knickers in a twist about!)
                              I wear jocks.
                              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                Originally posted by Bloodthirsty
                                I think I can sum up the discontent here:

                                The telecast listed all the Suns players out and their Swans equivalents, which I thought were reasonable comparisons. Imagine those 13-15 players out (the best Swans players) and Sydney playing Hawthorn. What would the scoreline be?

                                The answer is obvious: Much greater than 50 points. Why? Talent is on par (if not more of it in the Swans), so it must be hunger. I think that is what concerns some people, rightly or wrongly.

                                Whats the point of being flat-track bullies?. North would have beaten GC by more than 50 points, but get thrashed in finals.

                                It was slippery, so a thrashing could only be acheived by hard body on body desperation. That leads to tiredness and injury. I'm sure in a dry day we would have beat them by more. Isnt 50 points in the wet, equivalent to 80 in the dry ?

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