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  • aardvark
    Veterans List
    • Mar 2010
    • 5685

    Changes for Rnd 15 V Brisbane Lions

    Ins. Tippett, Franklin, McGlynn and Birdy or Robbo.
    Outs. Rohan, Nankervis, Towers, and hopefully Shaw.
  • Ampersand
    On the Rookie List
    • Apr 2014
    • 694

    #2
    McGlynn isn't even playing reserves this week, Bird is out with an AC and Robbo sprained his ankle. No way they'll get up for next week.

    In: Buddy, Tippett, Heeney, Hewett
    Out: Shaw, Pyke, Towers, Rohan

    If Teddy's no good then I guess Aliir or X. Richards will have to play.

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16772

      #3
      I can see Towers keeping his spot. He's the closest thing we have to Rohan in terms of speed and position. I also think 'Shaw out' is more wishful thinking than something the coaches are likely to have top of mind.

      If Heeney comes through tomorrow's reserves game OK (and looks ready to take up where he left off), he might come in for Rohan. He can play a similar mid-sized forward role.

      Ted will probably be fine. But if he isn't, I'd just move Reid back to defence for the game. Brisbane aren't exactly over-endowed with dangerous tall forwards anyway.

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      • Ampersand
        On the Rookie List
        • Apr 2014
        • 694

        #4
        Those are my wish fulfilment choices. I think in reality it will be:

        In: Buddy, Tippett
        Out: Nankervis, Rohan

        I think they'll go slow on Heeney.

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        • swansrob
          Senior Player
          • May 2009
          • 1265

          #5
          Originally posted by Ampersand
          Those are my wish fulfilment choices. I think in reality it will be:

          In: Buddy, Tippett
          Out: Nankervis, Rohan

          I think they'll go slow on Heeney.
          I think this is the most likely scenario. Cunningham may make way for McGlynn also.

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          • Dosser
            Just wild about Harry
            • Mar 2011
            • 1833

            #6
            Originally posted by liz
            I can see Towers keeping his spot. He's the closest thing we have to Rohan in terms of speed and position. I also think 'Shaw out' is more wishful thinking than something the coaches are likely to have top of mind.

            If Heeney comes through tomorrow's reserves game OK (and looks ready to take up where he left off), he might come in for Rohan. He can play a similar mid-sized forward role.

            Ted will probably be fine. But if he isn't, I'd just move Reid back to defence for the game. Brisbane aren't exactly over-endowed with dangerous tall forwards anyway.
            Sorry Liz, I still cant see what Towers offers. Maybe he can run fast but it sure isnt anywhere near the ball.

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            • WauchopeAnalyst
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2008
              • 834

              #7
              Comparing apples?

              Swans vs Port stats

              Stats.jpg

              SHAW 226 games, fumbles don't count - JONES 6 games.

              Pretty easy, keep JONES

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              • Mel_C
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 4470

                #8
                After seeing Pyke in the rooms after the game I think he will be in doubt. He was limping and he had a grimace on his face. Yes I know he normally looks unhappy but he looked in a lot of pain.

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                • Ampersand
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 694

                  #9
                  Definitely didn't look like a player that had a few weeks off. Looks like a chronic knee issue.

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                  • Conor_Dillon
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 1224

                    #10
                    I think we'd be better of taking the cautious approach with Ted...give him the week off then let him come back fit and fresh for the Hawks the round after.

                    So in saying that:

                    OUT - Rohan, Richards, Cunningham

                    IN - Buddy, Tip, Heeney.

                    This is providing that Isaac gets through 80-90% of gametine tomorrow, bring him in against Brisbane to get his touch back and find some form before the Hawks clash.

                    - - - Updated - - -

                    Originally posted by Ampersand
                    McGlynn isn't even playing reserves this week,.
                    Is this confirmed? It sounded like he was good to go!
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                    • RogueSwan
                      McVeigh for Brownlow
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 4602

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
                      I think we'd be better of taking the cautious approach with Ted...give him the week off then let him come back fit and fresh for the Hawks the round after.

                      So in saying that:

                      OUT - Rohan, Richards, Cunningham

                      IN - Buddy, Tip, Heeney.

                      This is providing that Isaac gets through 80-90% of gametine tomorrow, bring him in against Brisbane to get his touch back and find some form before the Hawks clash.

                      - - - Updated - - -



                      Is this confirmed? It sounded like he was good to go!
                      A bit tall? Pyke, Nanka, Typo and Buddy along with Goodesy.
                      Maybe rest Pyke and bring in Jack the younger?
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                      • Ludwig
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9359

                        #12
                        We don't really have an easy solution to our ruck situation. Pyke is still the same and not giving us enough from that position. Although Nankervis did okay for a first gamer, he still has a long way to go to be a ruckman for a side going for a premiership. There is still a chance that Naismith can give it a shot once he overcomes his groin injury. Otherwise, our best chance is to use the combination of Tippett and Reid.

                        I don't think we should critique Shaw and Towers the same way. Shaw has been a good player for a long time, but is clearly on his way out and is barely hanging on to a senior position. He's probably better suited to a forward defensive role for now and likely to be dropped in due course. Towers, on the other hand, is still improving, albeit more slowly than most of us would have hoped. He wasn't that bad against PA. It would be a fair call to say he didn't contribute enough. He may not make it, but given the number of senior games he's had, I wouldn't write him off just yet. We may have to keep in in the team given the number of injuries we have atm. We should also remember that 2009 draftees Rohan and Jetta had much of the same criticism leveled against them before this year, not getting involved enough and for Jetta, too soft. Towers is a 2012 draftee, so he still should be given time to correct his deficiencies.

                        It's too soon to say whether either McGlynn or Heeney will be ready for the Brisbane game. It looks as if we should have a lot of players coming good the following week but for now I can see:

                        Out: Rohan, Pyke, Nankervis
                        In: Tippett, Buddy, Hewett or KJ

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8166

                          #13
                          Originally posted by swansrob
                          I think this is the most likely scenario. Cunningham may make way for McGlynn also.
                          I think Cunningham will be in the starting 21, on the basis of the pace he brings to the team. I thought he did well last night when he came on, and kicked the important goal at the end as well.
                          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                          • mcs
                            Travelling Swannie!!
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 8166

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ludwig
                            We don't really have an easy solution to our ruck situation. Pyke is still the same and not giving us enough from that position. Although Nankervis did okay for a first gamer, he still has a long way to go to be a ruckman for a side going for a premiership. There is still a chance that Naismith can give it a shot once he overcomes his groin injury. Otherwise, our best chance is to use the combination of Tippett and Reid.
                            To me, the ruck situation for the rest of 2015 is simple. Whilst Pyke clearly is not at the levels of other years, he is still clearly our best ruckman, and will play when fit (although one might argue Tippett's ruck work is pretty decent as well).

                            I think Pyke will not play next weekend given how sore he was last night , on the basis that the Lions are missing Stefan Martin, and hence we can probably manage with a combo of Nankervis/Tippett (With Tippett taking more of the ruck load) - on the hope Pyke can be a bit fitter for what is a critical 5 weeks after that where we need Pyke in the team and doing well in the ruck. If that goes well, I expect he will miss a couple of the last three games (depending on where we are on the ladder and top 2/4 permutations.

                            2016 may be a different story. A good pre-season from Nankervis and/or Naismith might push them to a point where they are close enough in the ruck area to give them an edge over Pyke, given his issues around the ground.

                            For the Lions, I think we will see:
                            Out: Pyke, Rohan
                            In: Buddy, Tippett.

                            Maybe a fringe change (Towers or Cunningham most likely) to get BJ or Hewett in, but I think its more likely that they'll move Cunningham back to starting and Towers perhaps back to sub.
                            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                            • ernie koala
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2007
                              • 3251

                              #15
                              Towers papers should be stamped...

                              He's been given plenty of chances, and has proved to be a soft and ineffectual footballer at senior AFL level.

                              If Bird, McGlynn and Heeney are still out, then I'd prefer we brought in B Jack.

                              So for me :

                              OUT : Rohan, Nankervis, Towers

                              IN : Jack, Tippett, Franklin

                              As a foot note, Shaw needs to finish his career mentoring in the 2's...He was really poor last night..again.
                              But I get the feeling he's got a few more stinkers in him before he gets dropped.
                              Last edited by ernie koala; 3 July 2015, 03:18 PM.
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