Jetta contract talks

[RogueSwan]

Surely you jest?

Maybe I haven't thought it through clearly but I wasn't jesting.

[DamY]

Buddy = massive influence on membership numbers. Not all, but a major contributor. Won a few games off his own boot too.

[Cheer_Cheer]

I love Jetts and hope he signs on with us for another 5.. However, I would suggest that Buddy could play Jettas role easily.. Maybe even better.. I don't think the opposite could be said. It would be an interesting thread trying to rank our players from 1-22 on there importance to the team..

[RogueSwan]

However, I would suggest that Buddy could play Jettas role easily.. Maybe even better..

What is Jetstars role? I can't see Buddy evasively sprinting out of a pack, but I s'pose he could just barge his way through.

...It would be an interesting thread trying to rank our players from 1-22 on there importance to the team..

I can hear Matt80 feverishly typing away.

[Mug Punter]

AFL writes today: "Premiership player Craig Bird's future at the Swans looks uncertain, with the veteran unseen at senior level since playing the first five games of the season. Bird made his name as a run-with player or defensive forward, but the emergence of youngsters Harry Cunningham, Jake Lloyd and Zak Jones has relegated the 26 year-old to the NEAFL. Bird has played 20+ games in each of the past four years, but he'll be lucky to break double figures in 2015. "

Personally I totally disagree with the assessment he has fallen behind Cunningham, Lloyd and Jones. I am a subscriber of the "only three inside extractors" theory or whatever you want to call it. Bird is a good player and probably in front of those guys at this stage of their development - it's just that he is not as versatile as some and we have Kennedy, Parker and now Mitchell who have jumped in front of Bird in the role he plays. It is really hard if he has to leave because he is a NSW boy through and through, from Nelson Bay. But he must be worth something to a team that needs a proven inside mid and he may need to be thinking about setting himself up for his future.

It is hard to see Bird not being traded as he would have a lot to offer a club and you'd think he has 4-5 good years left. A club like a Brisbane or Melbourne that need a god pro to complement their youth based rebuild would seem logical.

It's just part of the evolution of a list - if Bird was still playing we'd have Mitchell or Jones in the twos and we'd all be complaining about that. I can't help bit feel that we've got an eye placed on the trade table and that part of the reason Towers is getting a chance is to give him some currency, only problem is that his recent performances have probably reduced his value

[annew]

Didn't Bird sign a new contract earlier this year?

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Didn't Bird sign a new contract earlier this year?

No. Late last year to the end of 2016. I think around August.

[Mug Punter]

Didn't Bird sign a new contract earlier this year?

Doesn't mean he won't get traded but I guess it means the deal needs to work for him, which is how it should be of course.

[liz]

Lewis Jetta proving a measuring stick for Sydney Swans

Sounds like Jetta's manager might have been having a word in the ear of Andrew Wu.

I am not entirely sure about the analysis, though. For a predominantly outside player like Jetta, his influence is at least partly determined by how well the inside players are doing their job. If they are not winning the ball and feeding it out to him, his influence is bound to be diminished. So his lower impact when the team plays poorly is as likely to be effect as it is cause.

Further, you need variability in an input to determine how important that input is. For a long time I've viewed Hanners as the team's barometer. It is rare that the team really fires when he doesn't. His gut running is just so important to the team, especially late in games. He started last season poorly and so did the Swans. He found form around the same time as the team did, and was superb for a month or two, before getting injured. And, like Jetts, he was physically targeted by the Hawks at the start of the grand final, indicating they had identified him as a key to the Swans' performance.

However, Dan's been so ultra consistent this year that there's not much variability against which to compare the overall team's performance. Of course, that could suggest he's not a barometer this year, given the team has been anything but consistent (within matches - forget about between matches). The truth is likely to be that both he and Jetta generally fire when the team does. Which is what the Hawks knew full well last September. Now it's up to the rest of the team to protect those two, as far as possible, from undue (read close to unfair) physical attention this weekend and when/if we meet the Hawks in September (or October) this year.

[liz]

Lewis Jetta proving a measuring stick for Sydney Swans

Sounds like Jetta's manager might have been having a word in the ear of Andrew Wu.

I am not entirely sure about the analysis, though. For a predominantly outside player like Jetta, his influence is at least partly determined by how well the inside players are doing their job. If they are not winning the ball and feeding it out to him, his influence is bound to be diminished. So his lower impact when the team plays poorly is as likely to be effect as it is cause.

Further, you need variability in an input to determine how important that input is. For a long time I've viewed Hanners as the team's barometer. It is rare that the team really fires when he doesn't. His gut running is just so important to the team, especially late in games. He started last season poorly and so did the Swans. He found form around the same time as the team did, and was superb for a month or two, before getting injured. And, like Jetts, he was physically targeted by the Hawks at the start of the grand final, indicating they had identified him as a key to the Swans' performance.

However, Dan's been so ultra consistent this year that there's not much variability against which to compare the overall team's performance. Of course, that could suggest he's not a barometer this year, given the team has been anything but consistent (within matches - forget about between matches). The truth is likely to be that both he and Jetta generally fire when the team does. Which is what the Hawks knew full well last September. Now it's up to the rest of the team to protect those two, as far as possible, from undue (read close to unfair) physical attention this weekend and when/if we meet the Hawks in September (or October) this year.

[jono2707]

A number of our players could be seen as a barometer in that when they play well, we play well. But Lewis is important due to his role, his pace and his excellent vision and kicking.

But what I think is most pleasing about his continued growth is his ability to get the ball in a contested and congested situation, and use his pace and evasive skills to get out of trouble and into space that didn't appear to exist. He has really worked on that 'inside' part of his game and it's really added another string to his bow.

Lewis (and Hanners) had just better be on the lookout for 'accidental' knees from that unfortunately uncoordinated Sam Mitchell....

[Ludwig]

How are those contract talks going, son?

[dejavoodoo44]

Yes, Ludwig, maybe Kenny will make Jets an offer that he can't refuse. That is, if he doesn't sign soon, Kenny will come round to his place at night, stand in the middle of the front lawn, and perform his tuneful renditions of Cheer, Cheer The Red And The White until a contract is signed.

[Hotpotato]

Hope he's not singing
This could be the last time ....
Ooohhh nnooo ...

[dejavoodoo44]

...or Don't Go Breaking My Heart.