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  • Doctor
    Bay 29
    • Sep 2003
    • 2757

    Nice analysis and list breakdown there Benevolent Ert. I reckon you're pretty close with all that.
    Today's a draft of your epitaph

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    • Scottee
      Senior Player
      • Aug 2003
      • 1585

      Originally posted by Benevolent Ert
      Here's what I've got for Round 1.

      Injured - unavailable
      McVeigh
      Rohan
      Johnson - gone for 2016, maybe for good

      Injured 50/50
      Richards - Should play
      Reid - Probably play
      McGlynn - Probably miss

      Certainties
      Hannebery
      Heeney
      Mitchell
      Tippett
      Laidler
      Kennedy
      K Jack
      Sinclair
      Towers
      Franklin
      Rampe
      Parker
      Grundy
      Smith
      Lloyd

      Fringe/New Faces
      Mills - Will play
      Cunningham - very likely
      Talia - very likely
      Jones - very likely
      Hewitt - Good chance
      Papley - Good chance
      Newman - maybe
      Rose - outside chance
      B Jack - outside chance
      Robinson - probably not
      Nankervis - probably not
      Hiscox - doubt it
      X Richards - doubt it

      Not in the mix right now
      Dawson - Not yet, but looks good
      Leonardis - Not yet
      Davis - What's his story?
      Naismith - still injured/recovering?
      Aliir - Shows some signs, but doesn't seem to be in the mix yet
      Melican - What's happening with him?
      O'Riordan
      Marsh
      Derickx
      Foote
      Murray
      Galloway

      So I've got 15 certainties. Three 50/50 injured - I think Richards will play, McGlynn probably not, and Reid should unless the club are hiding something.
      That leaves 5 spots for the fringe/youngsters. Mills is a certainty, so 4 spots to share between Cunningham, Talia, Jones, Hewitt, Papley, Rose, Newman, B. Jack, Robinson, Nankervis, and I'll throw McGlynn into this group as well.

      Cunningham, Talia and Jones are all likely, so one of Hewitt or Papley may miss out. Hewitt is ahead of Papley at this stage, but Papley does fill a hole as a small forward. An interesting decision. Maybe both of them get in and someone else is squeezed out. If so who? Perhaps McGlynn gets the nod and they both miss out? I'd have Hewitt in myself. I'd like to see Papley in as well, but just can't see who he displaces.
      From the look of Jones at the end of the Carlton game, he may have re-injured his knee. Its hard to see Talia playing if Ted is fit. Hewett is a lock! So is Papley.

      Assuming none of the injured players make an appearance, a best side like this might result:

      Smith Talia Laidler
      Rampe Grundy Mills
      Lloyd Parker Hanners
      Hewett Franklin Towers
      Papley Sinclair Heeney

      Tippett Kennedy
      K Jack

      Cunningham Rose Newman BJ

      Thats 4 first gamers and 7 with less than 50 games experience. I'm not expecting great things for round one but this is still the makings of a good side that will give a contest. The good thing about that team is that it has a strong midfield and a number of dual sided excellent kicks that can deliver to Buddy and Tippett or kick goals themselves. Lets hope they can do it often.
      We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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      • Mug Punter
        On the Rookie List
        • Nov 2009
        • 3325

        If Newman is anywhere near our best 22 this year we are in deep deep deepest poop...

        I'm not saying he won't come on further and maybe step up next year but for mine at this stage he is a long long way off being an AFL footballer - not big enough, not quick enough and not skilful enough.

        I'm not normally negative about our players but I find very little to get enthused about in this kid

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        • Mug Punter
          On the Rookie List
          • Nov 2009
          • 3325

          Originally posted by R-1
          We'll run the two close to 50:50. They're both genuine ruck-forwards and we could be pretty lucky with that. Tipp in particular kicked 2 goals a game last year while racking up major ruck time and stats. He's a unique threat in that regard and I think Sinclair could compliment him really well.
          I like the idea of both Sinclair and Tippett rotating through the forward line and sharing the ruck duties, I'd hope that it's more like 60:40 in Tippett's favour down forward but anything that can mix up our game-plan a bit would be welcome.

          One area of concern for me in the pre-season was the number of chest marks Sinclair drops, he looks very uncoordinated at times let's hope this doesn't carry over into the season proper

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          • Scottee
            Senior Player
            • Aug 2003
            • 1585

            Originally posted by Mug Punter
            If Newman is anywhere near our best 22 this year we are in deep deep deepest poop...

            I'm not saying he won't come on further and maybe step up next year but for mine at this stage he is a long long way off being an AFL footballer - not big enough, not quick enough and not skilful enough.

            I'm not normally negative about our players but I find very little to get enthused about in this kid
            I've watched a fair bit of him in the ressies and I think he may be a solution, Marsh is the only other option. His kicking is normally excellent and the fluffed kicks in the Carlton game were not good examples of his kicking. He was regularly getting similar possession numbers as Hewett in the ressies and making good use of them. Somewhat Malceskiesque. I think you have to cut him some slack for playing at this level for the first time in the last couple of weeks.He is still adjusting to the pace.
            We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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            • aguy
              Senior Player
              • Mar 2014
              • 1324

              So I would like to see papley and Newman upgraded.

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                I see that Callum Mills said he is hoping to get a couple of senior games this year. The lad is so modest, I'm hoping he plays 23 more than that :-)

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                • troyjones2525
                  Swans Fanatic!
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 2908

                  Was having a think last night and after round 1 was thinking what i believe would be our strongest possible team for this year. A team that I would rate to go into battle for a premiership this season if we had no injuries. The only player not included who I believe would be in the 22 if injury free is AJ simply because he has missed too much to be included at this time.

                  Here we go...

                  B. Rampe, T. Richards, Laidler.
                  HB. Rohan, Grundy, Mills.
                  C. Cunningham, Parker, Hannebery.
                  HF. McVeigh, Franklin, Heeney.
                  F. Papley, Tippett, Reid.
                  Foll. Sinclair, Kennedy, K. Jack.

                  Int. Mitchell, Smith, Lloyd, Hewett.

                  Emerg. Talia, Jones, Towers.


                  Now this is my dream lineup that I think when all playing their best football could go all the way in 2016! Big call yes but it is a side with a great mix of experience and youth, matched with skill and toughness plus some versatility.

                  There are some tough omissions, most notably the 3 emergencies but with no injuries to speak of there is always hard luck stories. I went with Rohan over Jones because at this point i feel that an in form Rohan adds more to us with his speed, skill and X factor. Reid wins over Towers simply because of his versatility and when he's at his most confident he his easily our best marking forward. Talia misses out to Teddy but i think it'll be for only this year and he could no doubt be used if we needed a 3rd tall.

                  Then you have the next couple who just miss my 25 being McGlynn, Rose and Robinson. Not bad to have those blokes as depth with probably the stiffest one to most being McGlynn. I simply think that Papley has gone past him already and his best football is behind him. I have no doubt we'll probably see him in the senior team this year but as i said earlier this is MY team with no injuries to pick the best 22.

                  What do all the RWOers think of the lineup??? What changes, if any, would you make?

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                  • Mug Punter
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 3325

                    Originally posted by troyjones2525
                    Was having a think last night and after round 1 was thinking what i believe would be our strongest possible team for this year. A team that I would rate to go into battle for a premiership this season if we had no injuries. The only player not included who I believe would be in the 22 if injury free is AJ simply because he has missed too much to be included at this time.

                    Here we go...

                    B. Rampe, T. Richards, Laidler.
                    HB. Rohan, Grundy, Mills.
                    C. Cunningham, Parker, Hannebery.
                    HF. McVeigh, Franklin, Heeney.
                    F. Papley, Tippett, Reid.
                    Foll. Sinclair, Kennedy, K. Jack.

                    Int. Mitchell, Smith, Lloyd, Hewett.

                    Emerg. Talia, Jones, Towers.


                    Now this is my dream lineup that I think when all playing their best football could go all the way in 2016! Big call yes but it is a side with a great mix of experience and youth, matched with skill and toughness plus some versatility.

                    There are some tough omissions, most notably the 3 emergencies but with no injuries to speak of there is always hard luck stories. I went with Rohan over Jones because at this point i feel that an in form Rohan adds more to us with his speed, skill and X factor. Reid wins over Towers simply because of his versatility and when he's at his most confident he his easily our best marking forward. Talia misses out to Teddy but i think it'll be for only this year and he could no doubt be used if we needed a 3rd tall.

                    Then you have the next couple who just miss my 25 being McGlynn, Rose and Robinson. Not bad to have those blokes as depth with probably the stiffest one to most being McGlynn. I simply think that Papley has gone past him already and his best football is behind him. I have no doubt we'll probably see him in the senior team this year but as i said earlier this is MY team with no injuries to pick the best 22.

                    What do all the RWOers think of the lineup??? What changes, if any, would you make?
                    As the Pres of the Dean Towers Fan Club I'd have in him in the side, he just manages to find a way to contribute every week and he did a lot of 1% ers last week like going third man up a lot. I'd reluctantly leave Rohan out and have McVeigh on the HBF and Towers on the HFF. I'm also not quite sure if I'd have Harry in the best 22 so maybe he and Rohan would fight out that wing spot.

                    I think by the end of the season Jones will be very hard to leave out, Smith suddenly looks a bit vulnerable for his spot in the 22 which is a crazy thing to say. I guess the reality is that it is very rare to have your best 22 so it would be rare that all 25 of those guys won't get a run if available this year.

                    Our depth is really starting to increase with the three newbies doing so well, you'd hope that Sam and BJ will be added to that list by the end of the season but from all reports BJ is really struggling this season so far

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                    • troyjones2525
                      Swans Fanatic!
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 2908

                      Agree on Smith/Jones and the other scenarios with Rohan, Towers and Cunningham. They are all similar as in our quickest players but like you with Towers i am a Cunningham fan! While he probably doesn't get the ball enough for some, i think he is almost our most reliable user of the ball by foot whether be passing to a team mate or kicking at goal. And i think we all know that that's something we cant do without in our side! I've gone with Rohan as like a lot of us I'm still dreaming of him finally fulfilling his potential that we all think he has! And as for Smithy, well sadly i agree that he's starting to lose that title for most as almost the first picked each week! I just don't have the guts to write him off just yet as he's been such a reliable defender for us for so long! But agree, Jones is coming!!!

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                      • Flying South
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 585

                        I mostly agree troy. My ideal squad would be

                        B. Smith, T. Richards, Laidler.
                        HB. Jones, Grundy, Mills.
                        C. K Jack, Parker, Hannebery.
                        HF. McVeigh, Franklin, Heeney.
                        F. Papley, Tippett, Towers.
                        Foll. Sinclair, Kennedy, Mitchell.

                        Int. Rampe, Cunningham, Lloyd, Hewett.

                        Emerg. Talia, Rohan, Reid, Naismith, McGlynn

                        We saw on Saturday what a well balanced forward line can do. The forward line is too tall with Reid up there. For me he sits outside the 22 as coverage.

                        IMO Rohan plays his best football in the forward half were he can use his speed to apply forward defensive pressure. He is a good mark and reasonable kick. He and Towers are fighting for the same spot and I'd be happy to rotate the two.

                        Jones takes that HB spot.

                        Assuming Papley can maintain his debut form he takes the small forward role. With a fit McGlynn ready to step in if his form slumps.

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                        • longmile
                          Crumber
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 3362

                          Originally posted by Flying South
                          I mostly agree troy. My ideal squad would be

                          B. Smith, T. Richards, Laidler.
                          HB. Jones, Grundy, Mills.
                          C. K Jack, Parker, Hannebery.
                          HF. McVeigh, Franklin, Heeney.
                          F. Papley, Tippett, Towers.
                          Foll. Sinclair, Kennedy, Mitchell.

                          Int. Rampe, Cunningham, Lloyd, Hewett.

                          Emerg. Talia, Rohan, Reid, Naismith, McGlynn

                          We saw on Saturday what a well balanced forward line can do. The forward line is too tall with Reid up there. For me he sits outside the 22 as coverage.

                          IMO Rohan plays his best football in the forward half were he can use his speed to apply forward defensive pressure. He is a good mark and reasonable kick. He and Towers are fighting for the same spot and I'd be happy to rotate the two.

                          Jones takes that HB spot.

                          Assuming Papley can maintain his debut form he takes the small forward role. With a fit McGlynn ready to step in if his form slumps.
                          Seconded, I agree with you completely here. Our forward structures have been compromised in the past with the talents of Goodes and Reid but I think this is a good balance now

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                          • longmile
                            Crumber
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 3362

                            However I could also see McGlynn taking Cunningham's or Hewett's role as well as Papley's.

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                            • bungwahl
                              Warming the Bench
                              • May 2009
                              • 173

                              Originally posted by Flying South
                              I mostly agree troy. My ideal squad would be

                              B. Smith, T. Richards, Laidler.
                              HB. Jones, Grundy, Mills.
                              C. K Jack, Parker, Hannebery.
                              HF. McVeigh, Franklin, Heeney.
                              F. Papley, Tippett, Towers.
                              Foll. Sinclair, Kennedy, Mitchell.

                              Int. Rampe, Cunningham, Lloyd, Hewett.

                              Emerg. Talia, Rohan, Reid, Naismith, McGlynn

                              We saw on Saturday what a well balanced forward line can do. The forward line is too tall with Reid up there. For me he sits outside the 22 as coverage.

                              IMO Rohan plays his best football in the forward half were he can use his speed to apply forward defensive pressure. He is a good mark and reasonable kick. He and Towers are fighting for the same spot and I'd be happy to rotate the two.

                              Jones takes that HB spot.

                              Assuming Papley can maintain his debut form he takes the small forward role. With a fit McGlynn ready to step in if his form slumps.
                              I think that's pretty close to the money. I'm very interested to see how Reid & Rohan go when they return from injury. Rohan in particular has suffered from being a Mr Fix It in every position from full forward to CHB, but I could see him taking Cunningham's spot on the outside. There are so few players of his size with extreme pace that he could prove to be a huge asset.

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                              • Nico
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 11329

                                Originally posted by bungwahl
                                I think that's pretty close to the money. I'm very interested to see how Reid & Rohan go when they return from injury. Rohan in particular has suffered from being a Mr Fix It in every position from full forward to CHB, but I could see him taking Cunningham's spot on the outside. There are so few players of his size with extreme pace that he could prove to be a huge asset.
                                Jones and Towers stay in. Towers seems to be improving all the time. Reid is a difficult one. Does he make the forward line a bit unbalanced. He and Rohan have not had much pre season so I would expect they are a fair way off. Simply, barring injuries, it is going to be a fight for spots as the season progresses. Like others I think Harry is the vulnerable one, but if he continues to kick 2 goals a game it will be hard to displace him.
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