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  • Conor_Dillon
    On the Rookie List
    • Jun 2013
    • 1224

    Delistings

    List Changes - sydneyswans.com.au

    Marsh, Perris and McLaren delisted.

    Apparently we're going to re-rookie Marsh though.

    Seems harsh on Perris given his injuries, also harsh on McLaren given he was only at the club for 1 year.
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  • mcs
    Travelling Swannie!!
    • Jul 2007
    • 8177

    #2
    Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
    List Changes - sydneyswans.com.au

    Marsh, Perris and McLaren delisted.

    Apparently we're going to re-rookie Marsh though.

    Seems harsh on Perris given his injuries, also harsh on McLaren given he was only at the club for 1 year.
    Very harsh on Perris given he can't get a run with injuries - but sometimes that's the way it falls. Might have been different if he was not a midfielder, given that is where we have our greatest strength in depth.

    As for McLaren, I saw nothing in the few ressies games that I saw to suggest he had the potential to be an AFL player.

    As for Marsh, I wonder if this decision is as much about giving us some flexibility in the draft, if for instance Dunkley doesn't come our way.
    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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    • Conor_Dillon
      On the Rookie List
      • Jun 2013
      • 1224

      #3
      Originally posted by mcs
      As for Marsh, I wonder if this decision is as much about giving us some flexibility in the draft, if for instance Dunkley doesn't come our way.
      You'd have to think so!
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      • annew
        Senior Player
        • Mar 2006
        • 2164

        #4
        Wonder if Lloyd Perris was also delisted cos we can't afford to carry 2 injured players and we have resigned Johnson

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        • Ampersand
          On the Rookie List
          • Apr 2014
          • 694

          #5
          Sad news about Perris. If he can get his body right I still think he will have a good career in the AFL. Unfortunately seems susceptible to ACL injuries.

          I think it's slightly different from Johnson who has more than proved himself capable as a senior list defender and is therefore worth persisting with. Even if Perris were to get form and fitness sometime in the future, he'd be pretty low on the pecking order for senior selection.

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          • jono2707
            Goes up to 11
            • Oct 2007
            • 3326

            #6
            You'd hope Melbourne, or any other club, picks up Perris if we don't re-draft him. He's a handy player.

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            • Mug Punter
              On the Rookie List
              • Nov 2009
              • 3325

              #7
              Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
              List Changes - sydneyswans.com.au

              Marsh, Perris and McLaren delisted.

              Apparently we're going to re-rookie Marsh though.

              Seems harsh on Perris given his injuries, also harsh on McLaren given he was only at the club for 1 year.
              Gives us the extra pick and points at the draft table and also frees up a couple of rookie slots.

              From an academy perspective I'd like to see us at least rookie list two rookies on top of us recuiting Mills, Hebron and Baron-Hay perhaps?

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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                #8
                I'm not surprised about McClaren. He simply couldn't take a contested mark and didn't look to have much hope of making it to senior level. Perris must have been due to his knee issues, because he certainly had the talent.

                Originally posted by Mug Punter

                From an academy perspective I'd like to see us at least rookie list two rookies on top of us recuiting Mills, Hebron and Baron-Hay perhaps?
                As nice as it would be to draft academy kids, I can't see Hebron or Baron-Hay as AFL material. I would easily pick Tom Young before either. I hope we give Marsh another shot as a rookie. He made good progress last year. I think we just needed to create another senior spot for the draft. I really don't know why we didn't delist Tom Derickx and redraft him as a rookie. Maybe there's some technicality with his contract.

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                • ernie koala
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2007
                  • 3251

                  #9
                  I'll be surprised if Marsh isn't picked up by another club before we get a chance to redraft him, given his improvement and good form in the NEAFL last season...

                  Why risk loosing him if we rate him?

                  I think they should of cut AJ and picked him up in the rookie draft...He's highly unlikely to play any senior footy next year.

                  He said, when quizzed about his contract extension, that he would of been more than happy with a rookie spot.
                  Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ernie koala
                    I think they should of cut AJ and picked him up in the rookie draft...He's highly unlikely to play any senior footy next year.
                    I suspect he's on an absolute minimum salary and we needed his low salary to help with the salary cap.

                    It seems that a lot of teams intend to redraft delisted players as rookies this year, so I think everyone will be concentrating on keeping their own rather than chase someone else's.
                    Last edited by Ludwig; 30 October 2015, 02:54 PM.

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                    • Markus26
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 147

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ernie koala
                      I'll be surprised if Marsh isn't picked up by another club before we get a chance to redraft him, given his improvement and good form in the NEAFL last season...

                      Why risk loosing him if we rate him?

                      I think they should of cut AJ and picked him up in the rookie draft...He's highly unlikely to play any senior footy next year.

                      He said, when quizzed about his contract extension, that he would of been more than happy with a rookie spot.
                      Have to agree with this. Marsh is ready to play (given an opportunity) and AJ is not. Maybe I'm missing something though.

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                      • mcs
                        Travelling Swannie!!
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 8177

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Markus26
                        Have to agree with this. Marsh is ready to play (given an opportunity) and AJ is not. Maybe I'm missing something though.
                        That is true for 2016 - but if you assume (I know its a big assumption) that AJ will be right to go from 2017, then it would be arguably a far greater risk to delist him than Marsh at this stage, who has yet to play an AFL game and is completely unproven at AFL level.
                        Last edited by mcs; 30 October 2015, 03:25 PM.
                        "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                        • ernie koala
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2007
                          • 3251

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mcs
                          That is true for 2016 - but if you assume (I know its a big assumption) that AJ will be right to go from 2017, then it would be arguably a far greater risk to delist him than Marsh at this stage, who has yet to play an AFL game and is completely unproven at AFL level.
                          I realise that different clubs have differing situations and objectives but....

                          It's interesting that Fremantle, who are in the same boat with Morabito, have chosen to delist him with the view to re draft him.

                          I think it would be less likely that another club would jump in on an AJ or Morabito, given the loyalty of their clubs, over many years, and the appreciation the players have shown....

                          Not to mention the high risk of re-injury they both possess.
                          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                          • bloodspirit
                            Clubman
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 4448

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
                            List Changes - sydneyswans.com.au

                            Marsh, Perris and McLaren delisted.

                            Apparently we're going to re-rookie Marsh though.

                            Seems harsh on Perris given his injuries, also harsh on McLaren given he was only at the club for 1 year.
                            Wow! Admirable ruthlessness. I feel for Lloyd - he has a lot to offer. I hope we do rookie Marsh and give him a bit more of a chance as a reward for his development and evident responsiveness to the coaches although I can't claim that based on what I have personally witnessed I think he is being hard done by - I'm more going on his winning NEAFL MVP for the Swans (he did eventually come out on top didn't he?)

                            As for McLaren I just never saw him show enough spirit - I found him quite disappointing the 2 games I got a look at him live. But that is a small sample and who knows what might have been going on for him.
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                            • Primmy
                              Proud Tragic Swan
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 5970

                              #15
                              I do hope they pick up Marsh again. Saw him marshalling (sorry) the troops in a late ressies game and thought that he was showing natural leadership qualities. I hope his ability to play at AFL level lifts as I rather think its there.....just not quite yet.

                              Hells bells, we delisted and redrafted Amon Buchanan and he ended up kicking us the winning goal in the 2005 Granny (THEN Leo took the saving mark, but Monty got us ahead first) so there is always hope for the kid. And how many times was Luffy delisted and picked up again - three wasn't it?

                              All clubs HAVE to lose certain number of players at the end of the season, that's the stupid rules.

                              However One thing I have learned about Swans and Drafting. Never jump to conclusions when trying to read the play. they are cunning buggers......
                              If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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