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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    Other Teams and Games

    I often want to make a comment about a non-Swans game or team, but don't want to start a new thread. Perhaps we could just have this one rolling along from week to week.


    For those who didn't get a chance to see the WB v Hawthorn game and have access to a replay, I would definitely watch it. It was a game more than worthy of a grand final.

    Hawthorn won the game in the end, but the Bulldogs were probably the better side on the day. They are such an exciting side to watch. They are just fanatical at moving the ball as quickly as possible. They're not afraid to kick backwards and transfer play to the other side. Everything is done at a relentless tempo. I wonder how they're able to play a whole game without killing themselves with exhaustion. They're not afraid to knock the ball into space and back themselves to win the ground ball, and beat Hawthorn 161-132 in contested possessions, usually a margin sufficient for a significant victory.

    If I were a coach I would be very concerned how to play against the Bulldogs. Hawthorn managed to get by with their precise kicking and excellent organisation across the ground, and some critical marks and goal kicking from James Sicily. Sadly, it seems that Bob Murphy has done his ACL. You'd think he would give LARS a go given his age.

    I wonder how we will handle the pace of play when we come up against them later in the season.
  • aardvark
    Veterans List
    • Mar 2010
    • 5685

    #2
    I'm really sad for Bob Murphy. He's a class act and it would be a sad way for him to finish his career.

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    • snajik
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 1115

      #3
      And it happened in the final minute of the game. Bruest was playing the man not the ball but the umpire seemed ok with it. A real shame. Great player. Fine man.
      It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
      The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16786

        #4
        We have a whole forum dedicated to other clubs / games. This thread is now in it.

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        • dimelb
          pr. dim-melb; m not f
          • Jun 2003
          • 6889

          #5
          Regret and respect for Bob Murphy. We will long remember his support for Adam, and I hope we see him back on the field before he retires.

          The Bulldogs look like a seriously good outfit.
          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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          • Danzar
            I'm doing ok right now, thanks
            • Jun 2006
            • 2027

            #6
            While not team nor game related, this shift in the AFL's online content is beyond acceptable: Why the Pies lose again - AFL.com.au. It speaks for itself.

            What the @@@@ is this and how do we stop it, like, right now?!
            Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector

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            • dimelb
              pr. dim-melb; m not f
              • Jun 2003
              • 6889

              #7
              Originally posted by Danzar
              While not team nor game related, this shift in the AFL's online content is beyond acceptable: Why the Pies lose again - AFL.com.au. It speaks for itself.

              What the @@@@ is this and how do we stop it, like, right now?!
              Danzar, I watched the Carey/Brown discussion, the former picking Melbourne, the latter Collingwood, and it seemed that (1) the headline was biased, unlike the discussion, and (2) some of us might be offended if it was said about the Swans. Is this what you were picking up or have I missed something?
              He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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              • Meg
                Go Swannies!
                Site Admin
                • Aug 2011
                • 4828

                #8
                Other Teams and Games

                I assumed Dan was referring to the wall-to-wall spruiking of betting (sponsored by Centrebet). I found the video offensive and unappealing to watch for that reason.

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                • dimelb
                  pr. dim-melb; m not f
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 6889

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Meg
                  I assumed Dan was referring to the wall-to-wall spruiking of betting (sponsored by Centrebet). I found the video offensive and unappealing to watch for that reason.
                  Now that makes sense. I tend to mentally block it out. When I do become aware of it I am annoyed - a complete mug's game - and while some punters make money from it (and more power to your arm) for too many it is an utter disaster, and I think the AFL shouldn't have climbed into bed with the betting bosses in the first place.
                  He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                  • Meg
                    Go Swannies!
                    Site Admin
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 4828

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dimelb
                    I think the AFL shouldn't have climbed into bed with the betting bosses in the first place.
                    +1

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                    • Danzar
                      I'm doing ok right now, thanks
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 2027

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Meg
                      I assumed Dan was referring to the wall-to-wall spruiking of betting (sponsored by Centrebet). I found the video offensive and unappealing to watch for that reason.
                      Spot on. Incredibly stupid and dangerous move by the AFL.
                      Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector

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                      • Maltopia
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 1556

                        #12
                        On the other hand, I have been able to watch the Swans play for free using the app from the betting sponsor without having to sign up for either pay $25 a month for a Foxtel upgrade (not possible anyway as I am on a basic bundle provided by Telstra) nor pay for AFL membership at $5 a week, $15 a month or $90 a season. Would not have been possible without the sponsorship by the betting company.

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                        • Danzar
                          I'm doing ok right now, thanks
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 2027

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Maltopia
                          On the other hand, I have been able to watch the Swans play for free using the app from the betting sponsor without having to sign up for either pay $25 a month for a Foxtel upgrade (not possible anyway as I am on a basic bundle provided by Telstra) nor pay for AFL membership at $5 a week, $15 a month or $90 a season. Would not have been possible without the sponsorship by the betting company.
                          True, but is your benefit worth it to the rest who don't derive the same value; or to the 10, 11, 12+ year old kid who clicks on that video and sees it as normal? Your saving is no justification for what is plainly wrong.
                          Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector

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                          • Maltopia
                            Senior Player
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 1556

                            #14
                            I'm just saying I got a benefit out of it. I am not claiming it is right or wrong. I don't want to get into an argument about what is right or wrong, but in my view, I think it is up to parents to tell their kids about gambling. They will see ads about alcohol, violence in movies, scantily clad persons when doing innocent web searches etc.

                            The AFL of today, is first and foremost a business. They will talk about corporate responsibilities, sustainability, etc., but the first and foremost objective is profit.

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                            • dimelb
                              pr. dim-melb; m not f
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 6889

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Maltopia
                              ... The AFL of today, is first and foremost a business. They will talk about corporate responsibilities, sustainability, etc., but the first and foremost objective is profit.
                              And insofar as that's true, that's exactly the problem. Their priority should be the quality of the game: if that's right, any other considerations should fall into place.
                              He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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