Rnd 8 Match Day Thread. Richmond V Sydney. MCG 19.25 pm.

[crackedactor]

How could you say towers was ok????? I know you cannot criticise his decision making ,because there is none. Has the football brain the size of a pea. Needs contract to be torn up.


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[ASSASSIN]

Mcveigh maybe a nice guy, but did any of his kicks reach their mark.... Either every kick was short or over a players head. Been a fan of Jack for years, but so many poor decisions also coming from him now. Wat can ANYONE say about Tippet - good, the bad an the ugly in every game.

Over all game was intense - i'm sure the swannies will hit back hard.

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I counted 142 brain farts by our players but I might have missed a couple.

SPOT ON !!!!

[0918330512]

Good teams win the close games.

Great teams learn from their losses.

I just hope we are the latter.




And it's interesting that just a 3 weeks ago on RWO, Ted had turned back the clock, was back to his best, was again the lynchpin to our defence etc etc, now he's past it (again), too slow (again)

The veterans Papley & Mills are crucified for not contributing & poor kicking respectively.

Mitchell, well fair enough, if he isn't racking up 30 disposals he should either be dropped or traded to Carlton (come on Luke, where are you when I need your support on this topic?)

Towers? He's got to be dropped. Never to play again (again). After all, while his final play was certainly costly, very costly, just ignore every other missed goal, missed target, free kick that was executed poorly by a guy in red & white in the previous 120 minutes of the match.

Oh, and crucify that first gamer Hiscox. All our other debutants should be vying for the Rising Star Award, so Hiscox not slotting a bag full of goals or getting a forefoot stress fracture from all the kicks gathered must mean his selection probably cost us the match. (RWO excused Aliir x2 his lacklustre start, because he played in a win).

Losses hurt. They hurt the supporters. They hurt the club on the ladder. But they hurt the players too. It was disappointing & it has done some damage, but if Towers had held up play or passed to Buddy, or if Sam Lloyd had missed or if any other single incident in 120 minutes of football had gone our way, fair chance the Tigers board on BigFooty would have their miserable supporters devouring their own and people on RWO would likely only be grumbling a little.

I'm not saying we played well. We didn't. I'm saying that when a game is decided by the smallest of margins, after the siren, that game could easily have gone either way. It just didn't go our way tonight & we (Horse & the players) have some work to do (which they undoubtedly will do).

[bloodspirit]

+1

[Melbournehammer]

We played some of the worst football I have seen us play and over the past 20 years or so I've seen us play a lot of terrible games at the g.

From about half way through the first quarter to half time we must have turned the ball over four times in five attacks and since we were barely touching the ball as it was we were chasing black and yellow constantly.

They took at one point 19 marks inside fifty to 3 - just ponder that stat for a second and ask yourself how we were actually in the game with a stat like that.

We conceded five goals in nine minutes after three quarter time and three of those came in a little over four minutes and all from a destroyed centre square and back six.

Watching nick smith kick on his right and reg on his left made me feel soooooo much better about my skills.

This was a game where I think everything pointed to a loss all night. I'm much much calmer than a lot of others on social media because I didn't think we deserved to win. So I'm disappointed but not despondent with that performance. We are simply not in the top echelon of teams in a week to week basis and the deplorable nature of our skills can make us look so second rate.

The last three weeks against three of the most out of form teams in the afl show what I think most of us really already know deep down - the scg gives us a six goal head start and we really are terribly inconsistent away from home.

[707]

Lost at selection when they went the warm fuzzy selecting Hiscox rather than BJ who has been in ripping NEAFL form. No doubt he would have got more ball and applied more pressure than Hiscox did tonight.

Has to be more changes next week than just Kennedy for Hiscox after that performance.

[ugg]

Lost at selection when they went the warm fuzzy selecting Hiscox rather than BJ who has been in ripping NEAFL form. No doubt he would have got more ball and applied more pressure than Hiscox did tonight.

Has to be more changes next week than just Kennedy for Hiscox after that performance.

BJ didn't play ressies so we can only assume he wasn't available for selection this weekend whether due to injury or otherwise. So it looks like the choice came down to Hiscox or Rose and they plumped for Hiscox based on his running ability on a bigger ground.

[YvonneH]

I bet a lot of Richmond supporters are sorry they didn't turn up to watch their team last night (only 36,000 approx. did).

[dimelb]

BJ didn't play ressies so we can only assume he wasn't available for selection this weekend whether due to injury or otherwise. So it looks like the choice came down to Hiscox or Rose and they plumped for Hiscox based on his running ability on a bigger ground.

May well be true about BJ, but why pick Hiscox? There are ressies who could be relied on to do a better job, especially when we were already missing Joey. Did our selectors underestimate Richmond?

[barry]

Normally you wouldn't blame a first gamer for a loss even if he played a shocker. But i think some may have watched the giants game earlier and seen they first gamer they had. Straight to midfield 5 kicks in 5 minutes.

Giants now ahead of swans on ladder

[Luke Shannon]

People are getting too emotionally involved in the loss.

Watching Rance V Buddy was something special that you rarley see on a football field.

Rance in my opinion is the AFL's greatest ever key defender. He is better than Silvani, Roos, Lanford and Bruce Doull. Seeing him leave Buddy to help out another defender was amazing.

Buddy blasting three goals from outside 50m in a five goal performance was equally impressive. He is the greatest ever pure athlete to play AFL and certainly its greatest ever half forward flanker.

What a duel. Both players at the peak of their careers. I'm rejoicing in having watched that.

[robamiee]

honestly we ahve been down on form the last few weeks and have been able to win. ALA Hawks and the loss was coming IMO and i think that will serve us better with 2 big games coming up for both coaches and players...
with our team out there i think we alot yngr in games playted than the tigers...

Some brain fades tonight and our backline got caught out at times when you knew they are generally more solid and composed to allow 2 over the back goals...
lessons learned we bounce back next week against the hawks

[Faunac8]

Histrionics aside a couple of facts to consider
We are currently fourth on the ladder having lost two games on the road by a combined 11 points
9 players selected with less than 50 games and it showed
First game for the year , and possibly also the first game ever for a few of our team at Richmonds home ground
Richmond for some reason match up well on us and have beaten us at least once a season recently

We were simply out possessed outplayed and out coached on the night and it still took a kick after the siren to beat us.
With next weeks big game looming now is not the time to attack but rather the time to rally around and show our support

[liz]

I think this loss reflects the reality of where the team is. At the start of the year, I thought we'd be doing OK to finish in the bottom half of the top eight, such was our lack of depth. The fine form of our better players - Buddy especially - I think has caused the media to overreact to the wins the team has put together.

I think the manner of the way the game was lost - ie with a kick after the siren to overtake a lead the Swans should absolutely have been able to defend - masks the fact that it was only the extravagant brilliance of Buddy and the Tigers' woeful set shot conversion that had us in that position to start with. The fact we lost is, I think, a good team. Psychologically, winning that game may have caused the team to gloss over the things that went poorly, rather than focus on what they need to do better.

Tactically, the Tigers played an excellent game, frustrating the Swans by denying them the ball. They've been gradually playing better footy as the season has progressed, and certainly last week they were very good for three quarters against Hawthorn. Deledio is a very important player for them and, while it's taken him some time to find match fitness after his late start to the season, yesterday showed how good a player he can be.

We were missing Kennedy, McGlynn, Reid, Rohan as senior bodies yesterday. We had four players with under 10 games experience, and another handful with under 30 games. That's not meant to be an excuse, just a statement of where the team is at. Sure, other teams have far worse injury lists, but most of them are sitting on the bottom of the ladder. Things aren't going to change in a hurry for the Swans this year because Reid and Rohan won't be back in the near future (and are not going to be match changers even when they are - though at the start of the year, I thought that improvement from those two was key to our team's chances this year, so the fact they've not been able to even get onto the park has been a blow). Heeney, Mills and (IMO) Jones are already part of our best 22, regardless of their relative inexperience. I suspect that Papley and Hewett are too, though their contributions are those of talented youngsters rather than seasoned players. It's going to take another pre-season or two for that group to be able to contribute at the level - en mass - that a true contender needs from its troops.

[ugg]

May well be true about BJ, but why pick Hiscox? There are ressies who could be relied on to do a better job, especially when we were already missing Joey. Did our selectors underestimate Richmond?

Besides Rose I don't think we had another small-medium type available I.e. Wasn't on the rookie list. The other two emergencies were Nankervis and Xavier and the other senior listed players were also talls in Aliir Davis and the not ready Rohan

I guess possibly they could have brought in another tall defender but having brought Teddy back in they possibly didn't want to go in too tall on the G.