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  • mcs
    Travelling Swannie!!
    • Jul 2007
    • 8177

    #61
    Originally posted by barry
    Teds BOG a few weeks back has been hos own worse enermy. Hes in the twilight getting a game due to injuries.
    Ted has played one game since that BOG, which was Saturday night for goodness sake. It took him a couple of games to get going before he got injured in that match, so he deserves the benefit of the doubt. When the midfield was giving no protection at all on Saturday night, you could have had anybody down there the All Australian Team of the Century Defence and even they would have struggled, given the nature of modern footy.
    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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    • stevoswan
      Veterans List
      • Sep 2014
      • 8573

      #62
      Originally posted by mcs
      Ted has played one game since that BOG, which was Saturday night for goodness sake. It took him a couple of games to get going before he got injured in that match, so he deserves the benefit of the doubt. When the midfield was giving no protection at all on Saturday night, you could have had anybody down there the All Australian Team of the Century Defence and even they would have struggled, given the nature of modern footy.
      I think that's a more accurate appraisal of the Ted situation.....that said, it's his last year. Talia two to three weeks away.

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      • Maltopia
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2016
        • 1556

        #63
        Reid is not on the latest AFL injury list, so it looks like we will start seeing him in the 2s soon and hopefully pressing for senior selection along with Rohan.

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        • Scottee
          Senior Player
          • Aug 2003
          • 1585

          #64
          Originally posted by Ludwig
          It's looking more likely that Rohan will play this week with positive stories leaking out and no reserves game. The Hawks will have a young side with plenty of good matchups for him. With Reg taking the resting ruckman, there really isn't a good matchup for Ted. Their 2 'tall' forwards, Gunston and O'Brien are better defended by quicker players. I think we struggle with Reg, Ted and Laidler all in the side when playing against quicker forwards, especially at the MCG. I doubt that we will drop Ted, although I think it would be the right option.

          I would also be inclined to bring in another player in from Rose, Marsh or Newman and give Papley a rest this week. I don't think Hiscox or Towers warrant another game and we should start looking for players that have something more to offer than those two.
          You stole my thunder Ludwig. We match up very poorly for speed, especially straight line speed. I can't see a good match up for Ted and Reg won't have one when the resting Hawks ruckman is on the bench.

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          • Melbourne_Blood
            Senior Player
            • May 2010
            • 3312

            #65
            Originally posted by Scottee
            You stole my thunder Ludwig. We match up very poorly for speed, especially straight line speed. I can't see a good match up for Ted and Reg won't have one when the resting Hawks ruckman is on the bench.

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            Reg is more than good enough to play the loose defender role when he doesn't have a match up. Reads the play well, goes for his marks and kicks well enough.

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            • YvonneH
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2011
              • 1141

              #66
              Originally posted by chalbilto
              On the AFL website under the Hawthorn injury update Cyril Rioli is listed a "personal" with the estimated return as "TBC". Has anyone heard about this? Maybe he wont play this Friday night which would be really handy for us.
              I think I heard somewhere that Cyril will be back and Daniel Rioli (Richmond) will miss to be with a sick relative. Maybe they are swapping.

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              • ScottH
                It's Goodes to cheer!!
                • Sep 2003
                • 23665

                #67
                We need to change our game plan.
                Over the last 3 weeks, I've seen 2 games live, and one on TV (Essendon).
                Each game has shown the same thing.
                We are killed in turnovers for leg speed and skill.
                Even the bombers tore through us for at least one half of the game.
                The tigers were a little slow to get things moving, but when they did we had no answer.
                They all chipped around and found targets with ease. Too many loose players. Where were our loose players??
                We seem to bang it forward and hope that buddy or Heeney can weave some magic, which they have been doing, but they have had to work hard for it.

                And hear I'll put my Nico hat on. Win it out of the centre FFS, we got smashed at this on Saturday.
                Even when we did win one it was a scrappy rush it forward under pressure, where as the tigers were able to clear it 5 times in 8 minutes for 5 goals in Q4.
                We were abysmal.
                We have only won the 2 out of those 3 because the Bombers were crap after half time, and extremely lucky against the lions.
                I know Kennedy was missing on Sat, but we just didn't look like getting a clear possession in the centre all too often.

                It's a new game on Sat, but if we play like the last 3 weeks, we are in for a hiding.

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                • ernie koala
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2007
                  • 3251

                  #68
                  I get the feeling, from what I've read this week, Rohan will be back in ,

                  McGlynn may be another week away with a cork on a cork...ouch.

                  Which would probably mean....

                  OUT : Towers, Hiscox
                  IN : Kennedy, Rohan

                  Agree with others we should "rest" either Grundy or Richards this week, probably Grundy. We don't need both against Hawthorn. Doubt it will happen though.
                  Another possibility would be Rose or BJ in for Papley, who hasn't had much impact lately.
                  Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                  • Plugger46
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 3674

                    #69
                    Rohan's terrific record against Hawthorn should assist us

                    I'd say we'd all be a bit more confident if Towers had kicked it to Buddy the other night. It's amazing what losing does. If we play the way we have over the last three weeks, we'll get flogged but footy's not as simple as that.
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                    • aardvark
                      Veterans List
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 5685

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Plugger46
                      I'd say we'd all be a bit more confident if Towers had kicked it to Buddy the other night. It's amazing what losing does. If we play the way we have over the last three weeks, we'll get flogged but footy's not as simple as that.
                      It will be interesting to see what effect Roughie's news will have on the Hawks. It's a very hard game to pick a winner. Swans $2.50 Hawks $1.35 on SB.

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                      • Plugger46
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 3674

                        #71
                        Originally posted by aardvark
                        It will be interesting to see what effect Roughie's news will have on the Hawks. It's a very hard game to pick a winner. Swans $2.50 Hawks $1.35 on SB.
                        Yeah, I don't think we'll ever know. If they win it'll be that they got up for Roughie. If we win, it'll be that the Hawks couldn't cope with the news. It certainly puts footy into perspective.

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                        Last edited by Plugger46; 18 May 2016, 12:11 PM.
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                        • RogueSwan
                          McVeigh for Brownlow
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 4602

                          #72
                          Grundy out? I bet the Hawks would love to see that. Who, out of our regular defenders is a better kick? Mills maybe? Macca? not regular down back.
                          If Ted doesn't have direct opponent that would be an almost perfect set up for him. Playing loose and taking intercept marks is some of his best traits. I would be very happy with him having no direct match up.
                          As much as it annoys me, I think Towers needs a run of games, knowing that he is not guaranteed a game each week can't be doing his confidence any good when Papley, Hewitt and Robinson (before injury) all get continuous games. Then if he still doesn't show anything move him on.
                          I may be wrong, but wasn't Andrejs given simlar treatment when playing for us? With the Blues he has been given a lot of games and I, for one, would love to have him back.
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                          • Plugger46
                            Senior Player
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 3674

                            #73
                            Yeah, dropping Reg is crazy talk.
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                            • bloodbrother
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 111

                              #74
                              Have read a lot of stuff here about how slow we are and the hawks will blow us away, well I seem to recall a few weeks ago when the hawks got towelled by 70 plus by GWS a team who is quick we managed to put away by 4 goals plus .I agree we missed Joey last week and our midfield was down apart from Hanners so to put most of the blame on Ted and Reg is unfair ...we have lost two games this season ,one by a kick and a bit ,the other by a point from a team playing their grand final , I am very confident we will bounce back on Friday night INS Kennedy, Rohan, Mcglynn. Outs Towers ,Hiscox,Papley[rest]

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                              • DA_Swan
                                Warming the Bench
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 322

                                #75
                                We are slow when the ball hits the ground especially Reg and Ted - we will be OK this week if everybody works to together - if one part breaks down then we are in trouble - when we are good we cover and support well - don't need heroics from Rampe and Mills with some of their marking attempts - they have not stuck too many yet !! That's Heeney's domain and Buddy well if he took all his marking attempts he would even better lol

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