Rnd 10 Match Day Thread. Sydney V North Melb. SCG. 7.50 pm.

[barry]

Young Zak finally showing us what he can do. Is that his best game so far??
A great team effort with some brilliant handball releases fro DH, JPK and TM.

How does a player as slow as Tom end up on his own so often?? Is he the Cheshire Cat?? just appears where and when he wants on the ground??

Thoroughly enjoyed the game last night as much as the week before!!

Schrodingers cat. Hes everywhere at once until hes observed in space.

[wolftone57]

Is Parker injury?

Last few weeks his output has been really done.

Maybe they should give him a rest if that the case.

Interesting in the reserves. Towers played mids and had a blinder. They stuck Abe Davis back and X Richards at FF (4 goals). still doesn't put in 100% effort, too lackadaisical looking. But Abe was very good and between him and Aliir in the second half Uni couldn't win. BJ also had a blinder. Rose was great too. That backline in the reserves could beat some AFL forward-lines I think. They are bloody mean. With Davis going back wow. As to giving Lukie a rest. I agree if he has a few aches best to get rid of them now. We play Suns next week and that would be the perfect opportunity to blood another one.Any one of the players mentioned could come in. Swampy was pretty good. I'm happy to be wrong in this case as the first time I saw him he was really good and I was excited to see such a clean player who could kick a 50-60 metre pass. Glad he did well and I think we should retain him next week.

[Mug Punter]

dont think its that CTS. You're allowed an opinion but he has been subject to a sustained trolling with a complete lack of respect.

Most of the post game reactions from a lot of posters are over the top in relation to really any of the players you mentioned.

I am not a big fan of jones but he's shown some good form of late and I'm ok to give him time despite questions over his temperament.

To me it's a separate issue reviving the 'mchack' moniker and mentioning him seemingly in every post. Aside from anything else there is no one on the list who can perform better than he currently is.

Obviously now we don't need to talk about how crap anz was there needs to be a new troll target.

Spot on, the bloke in question is an out and out troll

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Only complaint with Zak is his kicking is all over the place - but he really does appear to be beginning to find his feet as a senior footballer, and the stupid agro is beginning to drop out of his game as well

Zak is coming along very nicely indeed and he must really be enjoying his footy at the moment.

[Mug Punter]

Interesting in the reserves. Towers played mids and had a blinder. They stuck Abe Davis back and X Richards at FF (4 goals). still doesn't put in 100% effort, too lackadaisical looking. But Abe was very good and between him and Aliir in the second half Uni couldn't win. BJ also had a blinder. Rose was great too. That backline in the reserves could beat some AFL forward-lines I think. They are bloody mean. With Davis going back wow. As to giving Lukie a rest. I agree if he has a few aches best to get rid of them now. We play Suns next week and that would be the perfect opportunity to blood another one.Any one of the players mentioned could come in. Swampy was pretty good. I'm happy to be wrong in this case as the first time I saw him he was really good and I was excited to see such a clean player who could kick a 50-60 metre pass. Glad he did well and I think we should retain him next week.

I still think Towers will be retained if his salary demands are modest but I think he has potential and could well look for greener pastures.

A club like Brisbane could benefit from a player like Deano or maybe even St Kilda. We are in a position where we may not wish to do much with our squad this off-season. There's at least three upgrades and I can only see four definite outs if Mitchell stays as I sincerely hope he does.

Our first round draft pick we'll take of course although I wouldn't rule out us trading both picks 1 and 2 this year for a decent KPD and take the three upgrades as our required picks. We've showed before we don't mind thinking outside the box when it comes to our drafting strategy. We clearly have some talent coming through in AA and Marsh as well as Talia but we need a main man to come in. Of course there is always the possibility Hurley has nominated us as his preferred destination

Is it allowed to just do rookie upgrades at the draft and not take an external player.

I'd expect a fukll clean out of the rookie list this year and start to really fill it with academy kids as the quality there will really start to improve in quality.

[Primmy]

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Zak is coming along very nicely indeed and he must really be enjoying his footy at the moment.

Its amazing what a bit of confidence can do. OK, his kicking needs work, that will take a bit of time, but reading of the play is good, and his agro is now tempered. He is showing us a bit of what he could be. Not a world beater perhaps, but a keeper. He definitely has more control and is not needing to "prove" himself. He's played nearly each game this year hasn't he? Longmire must have told him he was valued. That alone would boost my sense of getting it right,.

[Bloods05]

Gross hypocracy

Is that the name for government by hypocrites?

[Bloods05]

He was very good last night actually. I just don't get it, I don't get it at all, how McVeigh is so maligned on here. he's not lazy, he's not a lair, he's been a great servant of the club and overall his standards are very high, not to mention his leadership. For sure he is starting to battle father time but I think he still offers a lot

I don't think this is complicated. People throw around the word "troll" but I would reserve that word for people who are disingenuously trying to provoke a reaction by posting stuff they don't really believe.

In this case I prefer to believe the views are sincerely held, but they are held by people who, let's be honest, really don't have much of a clue about footy, and thus are easily ignored.

[Nico]

Trolls live under bridges.

[liz]

Is it allowed to just do rookie upgrades at the draft and not take an external player.

No

I'd expect a fukll clean out of the rookie list this year and start to really fill it with academy kids as the quality there will really start to improve in quality.

Why? Which academy kids in particular? I don't think a single one of our (eligible) academy players has been chosen in the combined Allies squad to compete in division one of the National U18 championships. Abe's brother, Ben, is in the squad as an over-aged player but, as reported a week or so ago, he's not eligible as a concession player in the main draft (but probably will be if available in the rookie draft). Jake Brown still looms as a likely option. But it's not evident that there is a large group to choose from.

On the other hand, players currently on our rookie list (including those temporarily promoted to the senior list) include Papley, Marsh, Newman, O'Riordan who all look like they have strong AFL potential (and O'Riordan is on a two year contract). Melican is still very young and Harley's been raving about him. If they think he's stands any kind of chance of developing sufficiently I think he'll get a 3rd year, given we're not overly blessed with taller developing backmen. Foote looks a little vanilla to me, but I thought that about Robinson too, and Dan has certainly proved he can be a decent contributor at senior level. And you can't really fault what Foote's been doing so far this year in the NEAFL. He's been a strong and consistent performer (and is a tackling machine, something the Swans coaching staff loves). They can't all be promoted and one may be squeezed out, but several have a very strong case for staying on the list in some shape or form.

[Ludwig]

Why? Which academy kids in particular? I don't think a single one of our (eligible) academy players has been chosen in the combined Allies squad to compete in division one of the National U18 championships. Abe's brother, Ben, is in the squad as an over-aged player but, as reported a week or so ago, he's not eligible as a concession player in the main draft (but probably will be if available in the rookie draft). Jake Brown still looms as a likely option. But it's not evident that there is a large group to choose from.

On the other hand, players currently on our rookie list (including those temporarily promoted to the senior list) include Papley, Marsh, Newman, O'Riordan who all look like they have strong AFL potential (and O'Riordan is on a two year contract). Melican is still very young and Harley's been raving about him. If they think he's stands any kind of chance of developing sufficiently I think he'll get a 3rd year, given we're not overly blessed with taller developing backmen. Foote looks a little vanilla to me, but I thought that about Robinson too, and Dan has certainly proved he can be a decent contributor at senior level. And you can't really fault what Foote's been doing so far this year in the NEAFL. He's been a strong and consistent performer (and is a tackling machine, something the Swans coaching staff loves). They can't all be promoted and one may be squeezed out, but several have a very strong case for staying on the list in some shape or form.

I agree with you on this. I have very much the same feelings about our rookies.

I think there might be an Academy player Angus Baker named for the Allies. I don't know anything about him except that he's not a KPP.

It's still early days, but as of now I would guess that both Cat B rookies, Murray and Galloway, would be cut. We may just reduce our list back to 44 if there's no one around worth a go. Agree that Melican is most likely to get the 3rd year rookie slot. Foote will probably have to be delisted, but he's doing okay, His skills may be a bit too ordinary to make the grade, but he might be worth re-rookieing. It will be tough for rookie midfielder to get a go for some time. Newman, Marsh, Papley and O'Riordan all look senior material. Newman would be the one that would have to be upgraded or delisted. And Papley would be next in line for upgrading. I've already said that I think O'Riordan is a sure thing, but they may leave him on the rookie list another year to develop, especially since there really isn't a spot for him in the seniors now anyway.

[Wardy]

Big crowd for a North game too.38,498.

we seem to get a bigger crowd to Thursday & Friday nights - I'm thinking when we play Hawks on Thursday night 14th July the crowd size will be similar.

[Simo]

A great win, but shoul and could have been bigger, we were sloppy with disposal. So many handballs to the feet of players. Yes pressure was high but some of these were when in the open. Lloyd was very ordinary on Friday, his disposal was awful. I'd almost say he was scared. I'm not one th usually pot players but the way he responded to the perceived pressure showed a weakness that will be looked at by other sides.
George on the other hand is calm and geautifully skilled, if MITCHELL goes, George to slot straight in.

Reid will need to be quick to survive in today's footy. North were to big and slow.
Is Harry tagging? Because he seems to ha e stopped being a link man?

We are going ok. If teds out , bring in Newman a gun kick.

[Auntie.Gerald]

ha lloyd scared

lol

how many afl players are scared ?

mitchell is integral to our style of football

[stellation]

Perhaps scared isn't the right term, but I was thinking along similar lines as Simo, during the first half of the game the game at least- to me Lloyd seemed abnormally timid going for contested balls or taking possession when contact was coming.

[Auntie.Gerald]

I completely disagree re lloyd

he is not timid in my opinion

at a professional level each player has a very specific role

lloyds role is not to play as an inside player

he is to play outside of the contest and 110% he would be dropped from seniors if he let his outside player who he is running with get away from a contest

when u watch harryC and lloyd they continually assessing to be part of the exit from our contest or to stay close to their opposite outside player to nullify the opposition advantage if the opposition obtain the bll...........that is a huge part of their role........that is what is expected of them

when i played as an inside midfielder i never wanted my wing / outside players diving in at the contest as that was my job to farm it out to them and i expected them to be moving into space > that was their job