Rnd 10 Match Day Thread. Sydney V North Melb. SCG. 7.50 pm.

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  • Hotpotato
    Senior Player
    • Jun 2014
    • 2272

    Auntie Gerald ?
    Love your Close analysis !
    Are you really .... Ummmm
    Paul Kelly...
    Maybe not .... A bit too cerebral !!

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    • 56-14
      Warming the Bench
      • Dec 2015
      • 260

      Originally posted by Industrial Fan
      the tigers game wasn't a case of no Mitchell, it was good coaching to make sure there weren't many stoppages. Tigers held the ball to stop us from organising. Aside from centre square work which is a fair bit different anyway they didn't give Mitchell a chance to influence the game.
      Your post makes me realise I was wrong with my assessment of Mitchell against Richmond. (Was hoping he'd step up with Kennedy being out.) Should have considered they're 2 different players with different roles to play.
      That said, still hope we don't overspend on this sort of player.

      re: Auntie.Gerald's post.

      Absolutely agree with the assessment on Lloyd on Friday night.

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      • Primmy
        Proud Tragic Swan
        • Apr 2008
        • 5970

        Good work AG. Giving ugg a run for his evaluating money. My observations as well, which means I must be faabuluous at this gig too, just not as lucid (ahem).

        Also, watch George. He is constantly head swivelling and assessing. Reminds me of Stuey and his darting eyes.

        The kids are learning good habits from the getgo. No passengers.
        If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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        • wolftone57
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2008
          • 5857

          Originally posted by barry
          Norf are a hard bodied team. They have great inside mids and their outside miss are matured bodies. They exposed, or maybe went after, our weaker framed players like lloyd and mcveigh.

          Lloyd is a good player that needs a preseason in the gym to improve his upper body strength to get to the next level.

          sorry but I don't agree that Lloydie needs a good preseason in the gym. Some players are not going to be 'Bam Bam' Parker. Thay are naturally slim and any more work on his frame and he could end up on the permanent injury list. He has enough development for the role the coaches want him to play

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            Originally posted by wolftone57
            sorry but I don't agree that Lloydie needs a good preseason in the gym. Some players are not going to be 'Bam Bam' Parker. Thay are naturally slim and any more work on his frame and he could end up on the permanent injury list. He has enough development for the role the coaches want him to play
            Well what do you think lloyd needs to go to the next level ?

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            • Auntie.Gerald
              Veterans List
              • Oct 2009
              • 6480

              Originally posted by Primmy
              Good work AG. Giving ugg a run for his evaluating money. My observations as well, which means I must be faabuluous at this gig too, just not as lucid (ahem).

              Also, watch George. He is constantly head swivelling and assessing. Reminds me of Stuey and his darting eyes.

              The kids are learning good habits from the getgo. No passengers.
              I agree George hewett has been fantastic to watch also

              his ability to post up at his height and youth is strong but his ability to peel off into the correct space as the other option has been very good for a newbie to Snrs......his pressure has been above average also in our forward line..........his decision making is like a young Del Santo........they appear to have so much time with the ball

              In particular on friday George kicked two from three cracking lace out passes from outside the arc and they were both on his non preferred left foot which surprised his defender........but it is generally in the area of Buds fav kick which is even better and I was surprised the Kangas didn't have that covered

              Look there is every possibility that the bloods young ones can not roll like they have so far...... deep into the season........but i think the strategy by the Swans of playing young guys who appear to be ready has paid off and hopefully we don't do a GWS or Port from last season

              Young one Locks for second half of season and finals:
              Heeney
              Hewett
              Jones > but will have pressure from Swampy
              Mills > "

              Not sure yet re best 22 but certainly can play a decent role if called upon again:

              Swampy
              AA
              Robo
              Paps
              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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              • giant
                Veterans List
                • Mar 2005
                • 4731

                Speaking of kicking on your non-preferred foot, Rampe would have one of the best right foot kicks I've seen from a left footer. Last couple of weeks there have been some outstanding examples.

                Another very good win on the back of tremendous midfield work rate, with most of the youngsters continuing to show the goods. Starting to get a wee bit excited.

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                • barry
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8499

                  Swans have a habit of snagging flags in between eras. 2005: just after the brisbane 3 peat. 2012: just before the hawthorn 3 peat.

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                  • Industrial Fan
                    Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 3318

                    We also donated one to the hawks for their 3 peat.
                    He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                    • goswannies
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 3051

                      Originally posted by wolftone57
                      sorry but I don't agree that Lloydie needs a good preseason in the gym. Some players are not going to be 'Bam Bam' Parker. Thay are naturally slim and any more work on his frame and he could end up on the permanent injury list. He has enough development for the role the coaches want him to play
                      Robert Flower, Michael Tuck

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                      • barry
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8499

                        Ok, i watched the first half again and while mcveigh had some costly clangers that directly led to norf goals, he was also covering boomer who also was quiet. So lets call it a pass.

                        But according to RWO logic he needs resting.

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                        • 0918330512
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 1654

                          Originally posted by barry
                          Ok, i watched the first half again and while mcveigh had some costly clangers that directly led to norf goals, he was also covering boomer who also was quiet. So lets call it a pass.

                          But according to RWO logic he needs resting.
                          According to Barry logic, he could have had 37 disposals at 95% efficiency, 8 tackles, kicked 5.1, is named Jarad McVeigh so he needs dropping or delisting

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                          • dejavoodoo44
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 8658

                            Originally posted by giant
                            Speaking of kicking on your non-preferred foot, Rampe would have one of the best right foot kicks I've seen from a left footer. Last couple of weeks there have been some outstanding examples.

                            Another very good win on the back of tremendous midfield work rate, with most of the youngsters continuing to show the goods. Starting to get a wee bit excited.
                            Yes, for what it's worth, we're now the premiership favourites. We're at $4.50 and depending on which market you look at, Geelong and Hawthorn are next at around $5.50, $6.00, while the other two clubs under $10.00 are West Coast and GWS. Surprisingly. Adelaide are at around $16.00. To me, that's too long for the Crows and too short for the Cats.

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                            • RogueSwan
                              McVeigh for Brownlow
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 4602

                              I noticed a couple of times on Friday night that McGlynn lacked vision when kicking into the F50, kicking to contests instead of the open player. I don't think I have ever seen such obvious lack of awareness from him and I understand that it is easier to see from the couch but it really stuck with me.
                              Another thing that has been bugging me is the instant handballing. Every single time, well maybe not every time, we try to handball out of congestion our boys first action is to handball it straightaway, even if they aren't under immediate pressure. It leads to some hospital passes where, if they had held onto it one pass earlier they probably would have had a kick opportunity. Hey, it seems to work most of the time but I think it becomes predictable and opposition sides can plan for it. Just a bit too much handball for the sake of it. It is a "first-world-footy" problem though.

                              Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                              We also donated one to the hawks for their 3 peat.
                              shhhhhhhh, don't mention the war
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                              • Mug Punter
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 3325

                                Originally posted by liz
                                No



                                Why? Which academy kids in particular? I don't think a single one of our (eligible) academy players has been chosen in the combined Allies squad to compete in division one of the National U18 championships. Abe's brother, Ben, is in the squad as an over-aged player but, as reported a week or so ago, he's not eligible as a concession player in the main draft (but probably will be if available in the rookie draft). Jake Brown still looms as a likely option. But it's not evident that there is a large group to choose from.

                                On the other hand, players currently on our rookie list (including those temporarily promoted to the senior list) include Papley, Marsh, Newman, O'Riordan who all look like they have strong AFL potential (and O'Riordan is on a two year contract). Melican is still very young and Harley's been raving about him. If they think he's stands any kind of chance of developing sufficiently I think he'll get a 3rd year, given we're not overly blessed with taller developing backmen. Foote looks a little vanilla to me, but I thought that about Robinson too, and Dan has certainly proved he can be a decent contributor at senior level. And you can't really fault what Foote's been doing so far this year in the NEAFL. He's been a strong and consistent performer (and is a tackling machine, something the Swans coaching staff loves). They can't all be promoted and one may be squeezed out, but several have a very strong case for staying on the list in some shape or form.
                                Liz, that's not my reading and interpretation of the AFL rules, and I've posted a thread to hopefully have a more detailed answer to my question.

                                In terms of rookie options Brown is one that comes to mind and young Wilson seems to going well. Abe's brother if he is still available. And possibly Hebron, Behagg or Baron-Hay have shown enough in the NEAFL to be given a crack.

                                I'm not suggesting we give spots away on the rookie list but all other things being equal having kids that have come through the academy should be our preferred option I'd say. From the sounds of it the academy system is only a year or two away from starting to produce some really good numbers in terms of draftable kids so long term I'd see the academy as our natural selection pool for the rookie list

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