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[Mug Punter]

Sheeds did an excellent job helping to lay the foundation for such an optimistic vision to bring the game into western Sydney .

Really? Do you really believe that?

He came up here and basically insulted everybody and thought that because he was Kevin Sheedy that would be enough.

Like, what if we parachuted Phil Gould down into Melbourne as the NRL Ambassador to win over the heathens.

Nothing typifies the arrogance of the AFL and their naivety more than that appointment. I don't remember the exact stats but barely anyone in the real West of Sydney (Cabarita doesn't qualify) even recognised a photo of his arrogant mug and few actually cared.

Yeah, they'll sell out this weekend because we'll be there but the silly talk now is that because they have a decent team they have succeeded. Blind Freddy could see they would get a decent team with all their draft picks, in fact if they don't win at LEAST four flags in the next 10 years then they will have under-achieved.

The arrogance and lack of engagement with the local community, and front square and centre in this is their total disregard for the local AFL Community in Western Sydney (cue sponsoring Manly) is something they had one shot at and with an egomaniac like Sheedy at the helm they never thought it was important, how could they when they had The Most Famous Man in Football as their Coach.

GWS will be AFL's Vietnam, mark my words. Their success will bring more problems than solutions. They will struggle to get more than 10,000 regularly in that little play pen of theirs (most either free of massively discounted) with its surreal and ignorant matchday experience where apparently you still need to offer a has been artist from the 80s or 90s for a day at the footy to be worthwhile.

The whole thing is a manufactured and fake experiment. Unlike the Gold Coast, who actually busted a gut for a team, nobody in Western Sydney ever asked for or wanted a team. We were told by the AFL we wanted one, the arrogance of it all is breathtaking. They'll never be close to profitable and their slow incline points to a 20 year acceptance test. I just cannot see the AFL, with Jellyback Gillon at the helm, having the stomach to pay the long game given the heat they'll attract. I expect them to be relocated to either Canberra or Tasmania within 10 years

[Ludwig]

Thanks ludwig
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I hear that the AFL has put the MCG statue of Kevin Bartlett on the back burner in order to fast track a statue of you at ANZ Stadium.

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A Jarrad McSomeone will be doing the commemoration. I believe they wanted a footballer with qualities that matched those of the venue.

[jono2707]

Mug Punter had absolutely nailed it there.

And I wonder by how much we'll pump up their average attendance this year? It'll be an overwhelmingly Swans crowd out there on Sunday yet the AFL will point to that as a sign of success for GWS.

[Faunac8]

Really? Do you really believe that?

He came up here and basically insulted everybody and thought that because he was Kevin Sheedy that would be enough.

Like, what if we parachuted Phil Gould down into Melbourne as the NRL Ambassador to win over the heathens.

Nothing typifies the arrogance of the AFL and their naivety more than that appointment. I don't remember the exact stats but barely anyone in the real West of Sydney (Cabarita doesn't qualify) even recognised a photo of his arrogant mug and few actually cared.

Yeah, they'll sell out this weekend because we'll be there but the silly talk now is that because they have a decent team they have succeeded. Blind Freddy could see they would get a decent team with all their draft picks, in fact if they don't win at LEAST four flags in the next 10 years then they will have under-achieved.

The arrogance and lack of engagement with the local community, and front square and centre in this is their total disregard for the local AFL Community in Western Sydney (cue sponsoring Manly) is something they had one shot at and with an egomaniac like Sheedy at the helm they never thought it was important, how could they when they had The Most Famous Man in Football as their Coach.

GWS will be AFL's Vietnam, mark my words. Their success will bring more problems than solutions. They will struggle to get more than 10,000 regularly in that little play pen of theirs (most either free of massively discounted) with its surreal and ignorant matchday experience where apparently you still need to offer a has been artist from the 80s or 90s for a day at the footy to be worthwhile.

The whole thing is a manufactured and fake experiment. Unlike the Gold Coast, who actually busted a gut for a team, nobody in Western Sydney ever asked for or wanted a team. We were told by the AFL we wanted one, the arrogance of it all is breathtaking. They'll never be close to profitable and their slow incline points to a 20 year acceptance test. I just cannot see the AFL, with Jellyback Gillon at the helm, having the stomach to pay the long game given the heat they'll attract. I expect them to be relocated to either Canberra or Tasmania within 10 years

Ouch but seriously MP what do you really think about GWS ?

[neilfws]

Does anyone else hate late Sunday arvo games or is it just me?

Hate is a strong word I don't mind them, especially before a public holiday. My favourite time was the old 1:10 slot, but success + TV schedules = not many of those any more.

[KTigers]

The whole thing is a manufactured and fake experiment. Unlike the Gold Coast, who actually busted a gut for a team, nobody in Western Sydney ever asked for or wanted a team. We were told by the AFL we wanted one, the arrogance of it all is breathtaking. They'll never be close to profitable and their slow incline points to a 20 year acceptance test. I just cannot see the AFL, with Jellyback Gillon at the helm, having the stomach to pay the long game given the heat they'll attract. I expect them to be relocated to either Canberra or Tasmania within 10 years

It was such a long time ago now that I don't really remember, but I wonder were the people of Sydney clamouring madly for a VFL team to be moved up here back in 1982, or did the VFL just decide Sydney should want a team?

[Pmcc2911]

At the time that South were moved to Sydney the Vic government didn't allow broadcast of VFL on Sundays. The Vics were so desperate to watch Sunday footy on TV, Channel 2 used to broadcast the old VFA.
The solution, move South to Sydney play their games on Sunday and bingo you have VFL on TV on Sunday.
Even back then TV requirements were determining the footy schedule.

[AnnieH]

Annie, yes you have the right to attend any game you wish and for whatever reasons.

I personally think your reason about not wanting to support GWS is narrow sighted for the good of the game and AFL in Sydney.

That's fabulous.
I'm still not going.

[AnnieH]

Yes, they'll sell out this week (I can see them rubbing their hands together).
Next game, they'll be back to a crowd of 2,000.

Anyone who has a mild interest in the AFL in Sydney, is a Swans supporter - whether they go to the game or whether they watch it on TV.

I can't wait until they piss GWS off to Canberra or Tasmania.

There's only one team in Sydney.

[Swansongster]

At the time that South were moved to Sydney the Vic government didn't allow broadcast of VFL on Sundays. The Vics were so desperate to watch Sunday footy on TV, Channel 2 used to broadcast the old VFA.
The solution, move South to Sydney play their games on Sunday and bingo you have VFL on TV on Sunday.
Even back then TV requirements were determining the footy schedule.

And they all lived (somewhat) happily ever after. Despite great resistance at the time from the establishment this was a stroke of genius and a quantum leap for the game.

On GWS, I'm still keeping an open mind. I don't think anybody really knows how this is going to pan out. 10 years is a long time these days and it is impossible to speculate accurately on what will happen after sustained on-field success for the Giants.

Definitely a gamble by the AFL but I'm sure they have done the risk analysis. Canberra and Tassie are just as risky in terms of long-term success (taking in all criteria) but would well and truly be folded into the fall-back position.

I am OK with declaring that GWS are now my second team. I look forward to a day when I despise them but for the moment I wish them well (except against the Swans).

Meanwhile, I won't be surprised if they are a roaring success off the field in 10 years time. The world has been turned up-side down in the last decade and will probably take on a whirling dervish sequence in the next one. Stuff changes very quickly now. In the digital era, it only takes one good meme to create a phenomenon.

Futurism is a minefield.

It will be good TV to see a packed stadium at a GWS home game on Sunday (regardless of where they come from) and that is good news for the AFL experiment.

[KTigers]

Hence why some of us are going to Spotless at 4:40PM on a Sunday afternoon. So people in Melbourne have a game to watch.
Not that I'm complaining but it seems to me that there are some parallels between the Swans arriving here in 1982, and the Giants being set up here thirty years later. As I remember there were a lot of dire predictions about the fate of the Swans in the early 90s, and the AFL sent in game legend / spruiker Ron Barassi to save the day. How different is that really from Sheedy's stint at GWS? I agree it's a slightly weird environment at GWS games at Spotless (and I go to lots of them because I have too much spare time) compared to games at the SCG or in Melbourne, but many Melbourne folks think the SCG footy environment is weird.

At the time that South were moved to Sydney the Vic government didn't allow broadcast of VFL on Sundays. The Vics were so desperate to watch Sunday footy on TV, Channel 2 used to broadcast the old VFA.
The solution, move South to Sydney play their games on Sunday and bingo you have VFL on TV on Sunday.
Even back then TV requirements were determining the footy schedule.

[Doctor J.]

It will be good TV to see a packed stadium at a GWS home game on Sunday (regardless of where they come from) and that is good news for the AFL experiment.

A packed GWS home game on Sunday says more about the success of Sydney than it says about GWS. To me it says that The Swans now have a large volume group of "hard core" supporters who will turn up no matter where to see their team.

[707]

A packed GWS home game on Sunday says more about the success of Sydney than it says about GWS. To me it says that The Swans now have a large volume group of "hard core" supporters who will turn up no matter where to see their team.

Good point, Annie's not in that "hard core" group :-) Don't worry Annie, itsa sellout so in effect you freed up your ticket for another Swans fan.

[Industrial Fan]

A packed GWS home game on Sunday says more about the success of Sydney than it says about GWS. To me it says that The Swans now have a large volume group of "hard core" supporters who will turn up no matter where to see their team.

even prepared to brave the outskirts of the inner west! ????

[barry]

Kevin "sheeds" Sheedy ran over Mug "angry man" Punters dog.

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