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  • barracuda
    Regular in the Side
    • Jun 2016
    • 551

    Originally posted by bloodspirit
    It is important to remember that all clubs have access to our academy players and can draft them in the ND too if they like, just without the discount (because they haven't found them and paid for their development) and provided we don't match the bid. So it's not like we are sneakily locking them away from other clubs while simultaneously screwing over the players by paying them nothing. I don't really think there is anything for anyone to complain about.
    I agree, but I have a funny feeling people like Eddie McGuire will not agree! I just think that the academy system is enabling a second path for players to get to senior level in addition to the draft and the swans will take advantage of this opportunity. As a consequence I think the draft will be used for gun players like mills, heeney, blakely and to bring in interstate talent. The NDS will be used to move local talent through the system with a view to drafting when they are ready to play at senior level.

    It makes perfect sense to me, and the continuation of the discount provides the swans with the incentive to keep investing in the academy kids (and NSW footy) beyond 18.

    I don't think the swans try to hide the kids, rather the clubs are quite TAC centric, and the discount scares them away. The fact that the swans asked for the NSW RAMs under 18 side to be disbanded for next year to enable the swans to field a stand alone side in Div 2 under 18 comp proves that.

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    • 707
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2009
      • 6204

      Maibaum looks a good size and shape for an 18yo KP player. U18AA to boot, could prove a bargain at that pick.

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      • shaun..
        Stuck in Reserves
        • Jun 2007
        • 691

        I don''t believe this has been posted yet, Will Hayward's 9 Goal Final
        If he can produce something similar on a consistent basis, what a weapon in our F50.
        "In some ways we?re less predictable to ourselves and sometimes that can be detrimental because we don?t really know where we?re going" - P.Roos

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        • Meg
          Go Swannies!
          Site Admin
          • Aug 2011
          • 4828

          Just watched the video of Nat Edwards interviewing Oliver Florent with the Sydney Harbour Bridge in the background. Made me shed a few tears. But what a mature, intelligent young man is Florent. Both his mother and father have much to be proud of, I suspect.

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          • S.S. Bleeder
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2014
            • 2165

            Originally posted by shaun..
            I don''t believe this has been posted yet, Will Hayward's 9 Goal Final
            If he can produce something similar on a consistent basis, what a weapon in our F50.
            Thanks Shaun. Quite impressive albeit against a very ordinary opposition. He doesn't appear to have a left foot which will make it a tad more difficult at AFL level. I loved his defensive pressure and his ability to move through traffic. He reminds me of Rohan.

            Gee isn't the SANFL a sad state of affairs these days. It was a Prelim Final And there was no one at the game .

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            • dejavoodoo44
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2015
              • 8492

              Originally posted by shaun..
              I don''t believe this has been posted yet, Will Hayward's 9 Goal Final
              If he can produce something similar on a consistent basis, what a weapon in our F50.
              Thanks for that, it's a very impressive highlight reel. He's certainly got the range from outside 50, which should only improve. Also seems to be able to apply plenty of tackling pressure and was able to set up a few for his team mates.
              Looking forward to seeing him develop next season.

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              • MattW
                Veterans List
                • May 2011
                • 4195

                Originally posted by shaun..
                I don''t believe this has been posted yet, Will Hayward's 9 Goal Final
                If he can produce something similar on a consistent basis, what a weapon in our F50.
                Yep, very exciting.

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                • MattW
                  Veterans List
                  • May 2011
                  • 4195

                  Originally posted by Meg
                  Just watched the video of Nat Edwards interviewing Oliver Florent with the Sydney Harbour Bridge in the background. Made me shed a few tears. But what a mature, intelligent young man is Florent. Both his mother and father have much to be proud of, I suspect.
                  Yep, exactly. Picked for skills *and* character. An investment in a future leader. Love that smooth movement around the packs, too. Great pick, can't wait to watch him develop at our club.

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                  • 707
                    Veterans List
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 6204

                    Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                    ........ Gee isn't the SANFL a sad state of affairs these days. It was a Prelim Final And there was no one at the game .
                    Was an U18 game, the SANFL finals got very healthy numbers watching, I attended a couple myself, being a SOUTH Adelaide supporter. Also follow SOUTH Sydney Rabbitoh's and SOUTH Melbourne :-)

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                    • dimelb
                      pr. dim-melb; m not f
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 6889

                      Hayward's impressive. AND he's used to wearing red and white!
                      He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                      • rojo
                        Opti-pessi-misti
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1100

                        I agree Hayward looks impressive. I am not sure he is physically mature enough for the team next year though. Thinking of Heeney in his first year getting battered and bruised and he was much stronger. This year I winced every time Mills got flattened and knocked around but somehow he always bounced up like a rubber ball. Papley too proved to be tough enough to survive and it was rather amazing that he was able to play so many games after only having the one preseason under his belt. Heeney and Mills had the advantage of being in the Academy. It might be a very tough ask to expect the same of Hayward but he seems to have the potential to have a Heeney type impact in the forward half as he develops which is exciting!

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                        • Auntie.Gerald
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6474

                          WILL HAYWARD | 9 News Adelaide - YouTube
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • Nico
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 11328

                            I think it was Brett Anderson on SEN pre draft who said that the SA under 18 comp was pretty ordinary this year. Hayward looks like the pick of the bunch.
                            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                            • Auntie.Gerald
                              Veterans List
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6474

                              The fast mobile mid size but high marking HF are certainly creating a lot of flexibility in the transition part of the game as well as the forward entries ........ in comparison to who else was available at pick 21 and what we need I am stoked !
                              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                              • barracuda
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Jun 2016
                                • 551

                                Originally posted by 707
                                Was an U18 game, the SANFL finals got very healthy numbers watching, I attended a couple myself, being a SOUTH Adelaide supporter. Also follow SOUTH Sydney Rabbitoh's and SOUTH Melbourne :-)
                                It always intrigues me how the recruiters can pick talent when they only play at under 18 level. Further usually the talent comes from the dominant under 18 teams eg cannons, or north adelaide under 18s who played in the granny. I sometimes wonder what would happen if a Jake Brown played a full season in under 18s instead of NEAFL.

                                At the end of the day the recruiters study and analyse as a full time job, so they know what they doing, but it still intrigues me.

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