AFL?s review of Grand Final finds umpiring was not up to the standard expected

[crackedactor]

Had to check the Calender to make sure it was not April Fools Day. Just the Giant AFL propaganda machine rolling along. If they had a replay of the GF next weekend, we would have the same umpires and the same bias. Longmire cannot complain, because its pointless. He will get fined for his criticism and he will have a discussion with the Umpiring boss, who will admit we got that wrong and that wrong etc etc. Yes its was poor umpiring!!

Then behold the following week the exact same umpiring will occur.

[Crusty]

I watched the North Melbourne GF Breakfast, and the "celebrities" were introduced to music. So, Julie Bishop, a Dogs supporter, comes in to "Sons of the West". Fair enough.
Gordon and Swans Vice Chairman come in, to a bit of both teams songs. Again, fair enough.
Then Gill and Fitzpatrick enter to, yep, "Sons of the West".
I knew we were toast then.

[barry]

The only proof of anything tangable being done is if stevic and co are demoted from finals duty in 2017.

Otherwise its AFL PR bull@@@@.

[Meg]

Has the AFL actually said anything publicly? I read this story to be just a leak not officially confirmed. And certainly not a 'culpa nostra'.

[Mel_C]

I watched the North Melbourne GF Breakfast, and the "celebrities" were introduced to music. So, Julie Bishop, a Dogs supporter, comes in to "Sons of the West". Fair enough.
Gordon and Swans Vice Chairman come in, to a bit of both teams songs. Again, fair enough.
Then Gill and Fitzpatrick enter to, yep, "Sons of the West".
I knew we were toast then.

No Julie Bishop is an Eagles supporter. And for Gil and Fitzblatter they played the GWS team song when they entered. They were taking the piss out of them [emoji4] .

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[stellation]

Notwithstanding all the impacts from a little bug going ka-choo that means nothing is as simple as all this (Parker goaled a few minutes after the Jack miss, for example, and I can't remember if it was because we were able to build pressure after the miss), but;

1. the AFL acknowledge the Rampe HTB was wrong, which allowed them to keep the ball in there and ended up in a goal from a head high free (can't blame Clay too much, anyone would go weak at the knees with Dashing Dane nearby!). 22-6 = 16.
2. they don't mention the Jack non-50 after being cleaned up early by Wood, but I genuinely don't understand why it wasn't given*. Kicked a behind, 50 would have meant a guaranteed goal. I'd love to see if this was assessed and the ruling. 16-5 = 11.

2 goals the difference, and I honestly think their last 2 goals, and it might stretch to their last 3, came because we left ourselves open defensively when trying to score quickly (I think we tried to go long down the middle from a kick-in twice to no avail, which I can't recall seeing all season and can't recall seeing work late in a game since 2005).

*This one kills me the most. If they pay the 50 he goals and the brave act is rewarded and the team lifts around their captain, they don't pay it and the Bulldogs get to have the tone set by their captain.

[Industrial Fan]

I don't think that Jack mark was 50, but was more of a 50 than was paid against Laidler.

[stellation]

I didn't think there was anything particularly malicious in it beyond just a regular "make him earn it", but I did think it was there. I'm pretty sure he'd completed the mark before he was cleaned up- if a guy is going back with the flight and someone bashes into him coming the other way even a split second after the marking contest it's usually paid.

[ernie koala]

The umpiring was terrible and bias against us..But I think it's a stretch to say it cost us the game.

Buddy injuring his ankle in the first 5 mins was a mortal blow.

Most of our other forwards, most notably, Tippett, Rohan, Richards, went missing.

Loosing Hanners early in the 4th (a correct umpires decision doesn't change his injured knee), another mortal blow.

Dogs finishing the 4th quarter stronger than us.

To me, these are the main reasons we lost, not the umpiring

[Go Swannies]

The umpiring was terrible and bias against us..But I think it's a stretch to say it cost us the game.

Buddy injuring his ankle in the first 5 mins was a mortal blow.

Most of our other forwards, most notably, Tippett, Rohan, Richards, went missing.

Loosing Hanners early in the 4th (a correct umpires decision doesn't change his injured knee), another mortal blow.

Dogs finishing the 4th quarter stronger than us.

To me, these are the main reasons we lost, not the umpiring

If the umpiring had been equal we would have been holding a lead of 15+ for most of the game (and they wouldn't have scored off Reg's "no mark". The umps helped the Dogs stop our fast start.

Yes they finished stronger but I wonder how it would have gone if we'd been defending our lead.

[Blue Sun]

If the umpiring had been equal we would have been holding a lead of 15+ for most of the game (and they wouldn't have scored off Reg's "no mark". The umps helped the Dogs stop our fast start.

Yes they finished stronger but I wonder how it would have gone if we'd been defending our lead.

Not only that, consider the mindset of the two opposing teams. One team is rewarded for going hard at the footy, the other is penalised. What does that do to the manner the game is played in? I'm sure our boys were questioning themselves at each contest, which no doubt affected their usual "hard, take no prisoners" approach to contested footy.

[dejavoodoo44]

If the umpiring had been equal we would have been holding a lead of 15+ for most of the game (and they wouldn't have scored off Reg's "no mark". The umps helped the Dogs stop our fast start.

Yes they finished stronger but I wonder how it would have gone if we'd been defending our lead.

Yes, and I would argue, that if the earlier sliding infringements had have been paid, then Wood probably would've exercised more caution and not crunched Hannebery's knee. Therefore, our best gut runner would still had been on the field, to help counteract the Dogs late run.

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Not only that, consider the mindset of the two opposing teams. One team is rewarded for going hard at the footy, the other is penalised. What does that do to the manner the game is played in? I'm sure our boys were questioning themselves at each contest, which no doubt affected their usual "hard, take no prisoners" approach to contested footy.

Yes, exactly.

[ScottH]

Just did some stats on Frees. (Hope I got it correct)

We had 28 different umpires over the 26 games.
Total Frees for the Year.
467 For
519 Against

4 times we had a positive free kick differential.
3 times we had the same free kick count.
19 times we had a negative free kick differential.

Simon Meredith 5 games for 3 wins, free kick for 51, against 59
Scott Jeffery 6 games for 3 wins, free kick for 64, against 65
Matt Stevic 3 games for 1 win, free kick for 38, against 41

the 3 umps had positive free kick differential for us before the GF, but not after.

So not the best umpires we had for the year, but not the worst.
Schmitt, Nicholls and Donlon were the worst. Until the last game.

[ugg]

Where did you get the individual umpire frees for/against stats from?

[AnnieH]

Just did some stats on Frees. (Hope I got it correct)

Where did you get the individual umpire frees for/against stats from?

ScottH... you've awoken the stat monster!!