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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    #16
    Originally posted by YvonneH
    I think the sleeveless jumper makes it easier to mark overhead.
    Quite possibly with 18th century fabrics, but with todays fabrics which stretch and are breathable, its no longer an issue.
    A few players still wear long sleeves, and galic and international rules players have short sleeves.
    Cricket players, especially bowlers have high arm extension, yet have never had tank-tops.

    I quite like the cut of the International rules style jumpers. But I'm by no means a traditionalist.

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    • The Big Cat
      On the veteran's list
      • Apr 2006
      • 2355

      #17
      Originally posted by royboy42
      Why is it BS to have names on jumpers? Seems a reasonable thing to me. Clubs may prefer to have the space used to produce revenue, but that's the only possible argument against the suggestion.
      And American BS?? Ever looked at 50 and 20 over cricket, internationally btw, and not an American team in sight.
      As far as tradition is concerned..home teams used to wear black shorts and away teams white..only two reserves and once used they stayed on etc etc ...every game used to be sat arvo...no night games..one captain per team...etc etc...
      Limited overs "cricket" just followed American trends. Why do you think Kerry Packer called his mangling of the game "World Series Cricket"? And why do we need pre game and half time entertainment at the Grand Final? - because the yanks have it! If anybody needs that at the GF then they shouldn't be there.

      Can't see why people need names when a number is fine. Seems part of the "must have it now, can't be bothered thinking" attitude which is destroying traditional sport. I dare say we will see forty minute AFL matches at some stage, since it appears anything beyond an an hour is a bridge too far for many people.
      Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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      • CureTheSane
        Carpe Noctem
        • Jan 2003
        • 5032

        #18
        The "we shouldn't do it because America does" argument is pretty silly to me.
        Who really cares?
        So far the only arguments that have been put forward are
        tradition - yep, you can pretty much dismiss that given all the changes that have been made to the comp. Compared to expansion, away jumpers, number of players on the bench, etc, a name on the back of the jumper just doesn't measure up.
        too hard to read - of course it is when you're at the game, but as I said before, for the last 10 years, the AFL is TV centric. They forced me to get Foxtel to be able to see the games, and as a Melbourne based fan, watch the majority of games on the screen.
        The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          #19
          Originally posted by The Big Cat
          Limited overs "cricket" just followed American trends. Why do you think Kerry Packer called his mangling of the game "World Series Cricket"? And why do we need pre game and half time entertainment at the Grand Final? - because the yanks have it! If anybody needs that at the GF then they shouldn't be there.

          Can't see why people need names when a number is fine. Seems part of the "must have it now, can't be bothered thinking" attitude which is destroying traditional sport. I dare say we will see forty minute AFL matches at some stage, since it appears anything beyond an an hour is a bridge too far for many people.
          I agree with everything you say, except that they are bad things. All these things are good things, and a reduction in time of the game wouldnt hurt in my opinion. We need to remove 20 minutes off the game duration somehow. I'd knock a couple of minutes off each quarter, and reduce quarter time breaks to a 3 minute time to change ends and very brief pep talk.

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          • dimelb
            pr. dim-melb; m not f
            • Jun 2003
            • 6889

            #20
            Originally posted by The Big Cat
            ... And why do we need pre game and half time entertainment at the Grand Final? - because the yanks have it! If anybody needs that at the GF then they shouldn't be there.
            Absobloodylutely!
            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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            • The Big Cat
              On the veteran's list
              • Apr 2006
              • 2355

              #21
              Originally posted by barry
              I agree with everything you say, except that they are bad things. All these things are good things, and a reduction in time of the game wouldnt hurt in my opinion. We need to remove 20 minutes off the game duration somehow. I'd knock a couple of minutes off each quarter, and reduce quarter time breaks to a 3 minute time to change ends and very brief pep talk.
              Why do we need to reduce it by 20 minutes?

              And today's test match thriller shows why it is really the only form of cricket that MATTERS,.
              Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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              • CureTheSane
                Carpe Noctem
                • Jan 2003
                • 5032

                #22
                A test match is made a point of being thrilling as these times are so few and far between.
                Then just last night it came down to the last ball in the Big Bash.
                Only 10 minutes ago we had a 6 over the roof and out of the ground.
                Test matches are finite IMO, let alone the opinions of the millennials...

                Having said that, I see no reason for a reduction in AFL match time.
                The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                • The Big Cat
                  On the veteran's list
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 2355

                  #23
                  Originally posted by CureTheSane
                  A test match is made a point of being thrilling as these times are so few and far between.
                  Then just last night it came down to the last ball in the Big Bash.
                  Only 10 minutes ago we had a 6 over the roof and out of the ground.
                  Test matches are finite IMO, let alone the opinions of the millennials...

                  Having said that, I see no reason for a reduction in AFL match time.
                  The Big Bash is meaningless titilation where the results are forgotten a week after the game. Comparing them to test matches is a bit like comparing a one night stand with a marriage or long term relationship.
                  Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                  • CureTheSane
                    Carpe Noctem
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 5032

                    #24
                    I liken my marriage to the Big Bash

                    One Dayers have already been reduced due to 20/20.
                    I'd say that they will die off first.
                    Tests will take a lot longer - probably generational.
                    The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                    • mcs
                      Travelling Swannie!!
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 8162

                      #25
                      Originally posted by barry
                      I agree with everything you say, except that they are bad things. All these things are good things, and a reduction in time of the game wouldnt hurt in my opinion. We need to remove 20 minutes off the game duration somehow. I'd knock a couple of minutes off each quarter, and reduce quarter time breaks to a 3 minute time to change ends and very brief pep talk.
                      Just why should the duration of a match be reduced?
                      I'm all for innovation in a sport, but I look forward to seeing some reasoned logic behind such a suggestion.

                      There are plenty of things that could be improved in the game before you need to start tinkering with the length of the game.
                      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                      • CureTheSane
                        Carpe Noctem
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 5032

                        #26
                        Yeah that's a big call.
                        I can't see why the length of the game should be changed.
                        Only gripe I have is when Channel 10 has the TV rights and uses the 5 minute clock. Hate that thing soooo much.
                        The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                        • ScottH
                          It's Goodes to cheer!!
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 23665

                          #27
                          The last time the trialled this the names were too small to be read anyway, so it was a waste of time.

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                          • Doctor
                            Bay 29
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 2757

                            #28
                            I'm all for trialling things but I think the large, clear numbers are fairly easy to read now.
                            Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                            • markynana
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 10

                              #29
                              One of the joys of the first few rounds is trying to remember all the numbers, and the new blokes. I only ever ask my 10yo sidekick in absolute emergencies

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                              • dejavoodoo44
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 8583

                                #30
                                Originally posted by markynana
                                One of the joys of the first few rounds is trying to remember all the numbers, and the new blokes. I only ever ask my 10yo sidekick in absolute emergencies
                                First post? Welcome to RWO.

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