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  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8727

    #46
    Originally posted by Ludwig
    Happy to see both Newman and Dawson in the side, 2 players I've been looking forward to breaking into the seniors. I'm not too pleased about our injury situation, but at least we get to see the future. It would be nice to see Hayward and Dawson kicking a few monster goals (chip shots for Buddy).

    We had the 3rd youngest side playing last round and we're not getting any older. That list of players with 33 games or less that Liz posted is quite astounding.

    There's been some criticism of Jordan Foote, but he does go in hard, which is more than can be said for Harry C. It is only his 3rd game and I think he'll pick up the pace of the game soon enough.

    Collingwood are not a big threat with tall forwards, but they do have a number of smaller players and midfielders that they rely on for kicking goals, so I can understand dropping Laidler although I was surprised nonetheless.

    I'm still not clear on the Fox situation and the LTIL. It was announced that Papley came off the LTIL, the spot Fox was elevated for, so I wonder how that works, given that Edwards was elevated in place of Rohan. Is Fox taking the place of Edwards or AJ?
    Yes, it will be interesting to see if Foote plays a lock down role on one of Collingwood's small forwards. I think that this is a role that he'd be definitely suited to, with his pace, endurance and hard tackling. And I assume that he would have got some tips along the way, from Kirk, Shaw and/or Crouch.

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    • AB Swannie
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2017
      • 1579

      #47
      Originally posted by liz
      Collingwood doesn't have a tall forward line, which may be why Laidler has been deemed to be expendable. Not that he's that tall, but he tends to play on taller opponents.
      I too suspect this is the case. Collingwood pose (on paper at least) far less threat forward than the Power or Bulldogs did. Injecting Dawson may allow less minutes for Hayward and Florent too which is a good thing considering the ToG they endured last week. Don't want to burn them up too early.

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      • Auntie.Gerald
        Veterans List
        • Oct 2009
        • 6483

        #48
        Swampy had a lock down role hence hidden

        Newman was playing more open in attack role

        Right call as finding bud in his little special area out wide of the 50m arc is ten times easier for a left footer sending it in perfectly then a right footer

        But having another medium tall left footer over on the opposite side of the arc to bud is super smart. I would be sure Dawson would prefer that side

        Bud on left
        Dawson on right
        Reid in the middle

        They are great targets for our entries but also give us more variability getting out of our defensive 50

        I'm really liking our continual search for evolving our transitions via personnel and plays

        We certainly appear to be trying to Evolve the kicking ability out of the backline more then ever right now

        gWS and the Dogs leapfrogged in this area and now we are trying to be much more agile out of our defensive 50m

        serious kicking power sneaking into the team......Very long kicks also

        Bud
        Reid
        Dawson
        Rampe
        Lloyd
        Florent
        Hayward
        Newman
        Harry marsh
        Heeney

        These guys are all strong long kicks

        Yes we have others who can kick but these guys appear to be a step above with distance / penetration
        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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        • Joel Ridge
          Suspended by the MRP
          • Feb 2017
          • 82

          #49
          This is the sort of team that the Swans will have for the next couple of years. So much of the salary cap is concentrated on 6 top players and it does not leave much for experienced mid range players (Mitchell, Malceski, Bird, Mumford, Everitte, White,).

          We will be relying on rookies and inexperienced players to carry the load that other clubs mid range experienced players do.

          We have essentially the same set up as GWS had in 2012 although our top experienced players (Franklin, Kennedy, Parker, Hannas, Tippett, Grundy, Rampe and Reid) are far better than their experienced players in 2012.

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          • bloodbrother
            Warming the Bench
            • Sep 2012
            • 111

            #50
            we will win this and beat wet toast, giants are a 60/50

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            • Aaron
              Regular in the Side
              • Jan 2009
              • 805

              #51
              UMPIRES: Sam@Hay@(20),@Mathew@Nicholls@(15),@ Matt@Stevic@(9) . Nothing has changed!

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16786

                #52
                I notice that Edwards is named as an emergency, meaning they must have nominated Fox to take over AJ's spot on the list. He was originally promoted for Papley, but he was taken off the LTIL this week. I thought maybe they'd demoted Edwards but clearly not.

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                • mcs
                  Travelling Swannie!!
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 8177

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Aaron
                  UMPIRES: Sam@Hay@(20),@Mathew@Nicholls@(15),@ Matt@Stevic@(9) . Nothing has changed!
                  At least its not that #16 fool.
                  "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                  • Swanny40519
                    Regular in the side.
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 469

                    #54
                    Stevic is just as bad if not worse. He has crucified us in the games he has umpired.

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6483

                      #55
                      i dont agree JR

                      I see serious young talent coming thru at a rate of knots
                      I see experienced leaders who will not have 3 bad games in a row. Last week was an improvement and 3 weeks down on form would not be acceptable
                      I see a middle group of players stepping up and rising to the challenge
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • dejavoodoo44
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 8727

                        #56
                        Originally posted by mcs
                        At least its not that #16 fool.
                        I'm starting to think that whatever his name is, will always be known on these pages as that number 16 (insert your choice of disparaging term). I did look up his name, but it just doesn't seem right to use it.

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                        • dimelb
                          pr. dim-melb; m not f
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 6889

                          #57
                          And to put it into perspective, it has become clear that we can't blame him for Callum's error.
                          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                          • 707
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6204

                            #58
                            Damning article on the AFL website this morning saying stats show our forward line is a misfiring mess. Reid & Buddy's sparkling form covering up how bad it is. Forward efficiency just 44%, worst in the comp.

                            So much potential, so little efficiency and method.

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                            • magic.merkin
                              Senior Player
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1199

                              #59
                              Not really surprised, our mids are down and our backs are less experienced than ever. The ball coming in hasn't been clean. We are missing 4 of our top 5 goal kickers from last year.

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                              • mcs
                                Travelling Swannie!!
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 8177

                                #60
                                Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                                I'm starting to think that whatever his name is, will always be known on these pages as that number 16 (insert your choice of disparaging term). I did look up his name, but it just doesn't seem right to use it.
                                On what he showed over the first two weeks, he doesn't deserve to be referred to anything but that idiot #16....

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                                Originally posted by Swanny40519
                                Stevic is just as bad if not worse. He has crucified us in the games he has umpired.
                                True Swanny, but its usually been in games against the Wees and Poos or fairypuppies. Nicholls isn't much chop at times either, but at least they are senior umpires, not some unknown.
                                "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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