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  • wolftone57
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2008
    • 5872

    #16
    Originally posted by dimelb
    Drives me nuts. Probably the only thing that still has me yelling at the TV.
    Drives me nuts too. Has me despairing at games because I can't swear for fear of being kicked out. At home I swear at the telly regularly. The other thing that really pisses me off is the stoppages set ups. bloody dreadful this year. Just a disaster waiting to happen. Josh Francou has to do something different as this is not working in a monumental way. If you look at clearance figures they show we are 17th I think. Terrible. I scream at Horse but to no avail.

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    • Aaron
      Regular in the Side
      • Jan 2009
      • 805

      #17
      I was disappointed and nervous of another defeat. However, after reading this article from Tony Armstrong ( Footy has a way of getting back into your heart - AFL Players ), I am excited again. Go Swans!

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      • RogueSwan
        McVeigh for Brownlow
        • Apr 2003
        • 4602

        #18
        Originally posted by Aaron
        I was disappointed and nervous of another defeat. However, after reading this article from Tony Armstrong ( Footy has a way of getting back into your heart - AFL Players ), I am excited again. Go Swans!
        Awesome find Aaron (probably deserves it own thread).
        Glad to see Tony is still a fan after his ups and (mainly) downs as a professional footballer.
        "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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        • bloodspirit
          Clubman
          • Apr 2015
          • 4448

          #19
          Originally posted by Aaron
          I was disappointed and nervous of another defeat. However, after reading this article from Tony Armstrong ( Footy has a way of getting back into your heart - AFL Players ), I am excited again. Go Swans!
          Thanks for sharing the link! That is a brave article by Tony. It takes guts to display your vulnerability. And he makes some good points. Leaves me feeling slightly guilty about the crap we pour on underperformers. You have to remember they are utterly devoted to the game, trying their best and far more skilled than most players will ever be. You have to be really elite and dedicated to make a decent career at AFL level. The players get to enjoy extraordinary salaries and the joy of playing the game they love with their mates but apart from that the costs are really high. Players are treated ruthlessly by clubs and other stakeholders in this professional era. While Tony didn't wind up being good enough at the highest level, seeing him play often brought a smile to my face. I hope he can rediscover his joy for the game - not just watching but also playing. And, naturally, I'm delighted he still barracks for the Bloods!
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          • dimelb
            pr. dim-melb; m not f
            • Jun 2003
            • 6889

            #20
            Originally posted by bloodspirit
            Thanks for sharing the link! That is a brave article by Tony. It takes guts to display your vulnerability. And he makes some good points. Leaves me feeling slightly guilty about the crap we pour on underperformers. You have to remember they are utterly devoted to the game, trying their best and far more skilled than most players will ever be. You have to be really elite and dedicated to make a decent career at AFL level. The players get to enjoy extraordinary salaries and the joy of playing the game they love with their mates but apart from that the costs are really high. Players are treated ruthlessly by clubs and other stakeholders in this professional era. While Tony didn't wind up being good enough at the highest level, seeing him play often brought a smile to my face. I hope he can rediscover his joy for the game - not just watching but also playing. And, naturally, I'm delighted he still barracks for the Bloods!
            I second the emotion!
            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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            • Industrial Fan
              Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
              • Aug 2006
              • 3320

              #21
              Expect us to get wiped badly tonight.

              Too many senior players out or out of form.

              Generally speaking I enjoy the game more with low expectations so winners either way.
              He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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              • aardvark
                Veterans List
                • Mar 2010
                • 5685

                #22
                Just to get the juices flowing before the game tonight, this is a must watch. Tissues required, enjoy!

                The gripping rivalry: Eagles v Swans - AFL.com.au
                Last edited by aardvark; 13 April 2017, 04:04 PM.

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                • annew
                  Senior Player
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 2164

                  #23
                  Originally posted by aardvark
                  Just to get the juices flowing before the game tonight, this is a must watch. Tissues required, enjoy!

                  The gripping rivalry: Eagles v Swans - AFL.com.au
                  Something more determined about the team during that era than what there is now.

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                  • Foreign Legion
                    Senior Player
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 3387

                    #24
                    Chick to Hunter in 2006 GF - was that the footy or contraband?

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                    • Hotpotato
                      Senior Player
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 2293

                      #25
                      Originally posted by wolftone57
                      We would pretty well be the youngest I would think. to say we are at the end of the road is just stupidity. We have a really talented and strong group of youngsters who will be far better next year than today. We have a core group of developing players who are soon will be hitting 50 games all at once. We still have a strong core group of experienced players, abate under-performing. This is the crux of the matter. The senior players not performing this year compared to the past.

                      For us to win several things must fall into place;

                      1. We must play as a cohesive unit. This so far has been seeming impossible to do. We have had periods where this has happened but not a consistently long period.

                      2. We have to stop the drifting in and out of games and tapering off. This could be due to our youth but I am not convinced this is the only factor. Last year we had some games where we played a lot of youth and we weren't inconsistent. The other factor is that it isn't just the likes of Ollie who fade out of the game it is also the senior players. That tells me there is something wrong with the leadership group and their will to the contest.

                      3. We have to win the clearances and stoppages. Winning the stoppages is going to be almost impossible with Sinclair and Reid as our ruckmen. But the clearances can be won off their ruck. But our mids actually have to turn up first. The coaches have to design better set ups as they have been dreadful so far. The players positioning at centre bounces has been terrible and just allows the opposition to get easy clearances. Add to that the terrible form of our mids and we have disaster.

                      4. Our forward set up has to be more cohesive. Players must work together, spread and lead. The mids must stop just kicking to Bud and Reidy. Reid going into the ruck is a huge problem and robs our forward line of any tall structure. it also gives the opposition lots of room to move defensively. Bad move Longmire, Reid in the ruck has always been a disaster. We would have been better off bringing in Talia or Melican and putting Aliir in the ruck.

                      5. Our defense has to hold up. The defense has been a very weak area this year. They have been exposed due to a weak, under-performing midfield and have been badly exposed. Add to that the poor form of Reg and Smithy and the erratic form of Marsh and Mills and you have a disaster waiting to happen. They are also not playing as a unit and the movement out of defense is random, not cohesive at all. It is as though the senior players are playing together and the youth is a bit excluded or not trusted. Even then the players look at times disinterested, slow and unready to do the hard yards. If the defense is marshalled and there is a general directing them it will work. But so far the usual general, Reg, has failed to direct. both Reg and Smithy seem to be more worried about their own form, which is understandable. But that doesn't help the younger players. Reg cam back into a bit of form last week but Smithy is a worry. he needs to play well this week as the Eagles smalls do kick goals if their opponent is not tight enough. Last week smithy was 5 to 10 metres off Fassolo on many occasions in the first half. He can't allow the Eagles smalls this amount of space.

                      6. the coaching has to be more innovative with the new talent we have. They need to design tactics that suit the new guys and use them this week or we will be in trouble. always play to your strengths and use the abilities and skills sets of your workers. This is the challenge our coaches are going to have this weekend and into the future. If you base your game on past concepts and don't change that game plan you are going to get caught out and that is exactly what is happening. we could blame having too many young players etc etc. But I think that each time we have looked like getting a run the opposition coaches change tactics to negate our game plan. They play a style we don't particularly like, the short kicking game. that is because we always set up about 10 metres off our opponents, a part of our game plan, this is far too far if their delivery, like Collingwood last week, is very good. The opposition are less pressured and they get easy kicks. This is what Hawks did to us every time and it seems every team is doing it now and Longmire seems to have no answer. he needs to develop one very soon otherwise we won't be 0-5, we will be 0-9.
                      It's all good, Dunno if the coaching staff have time to read it all ....
                      it nearly put me to sleep.

                      Just play with the old Kelly mongrel , get the pill and deliver to someone !

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                      • WauchopeAnalyst
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 834

                        #26
                        Just want to see some fast ( ball or foot) speed and more then 55 I50s for the game.

                        Dont mind losing but need to play modern football.

                        The rules are different, most of the breaks go to the attacking teams.

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                        • rb4x
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 971

                          #27
                          I see Darling is out for WC and Schofield now in.

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                          • Aaron
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 805

                            #28
                            LATE CHANGES
                            West Coast: Jack Darling (ankle) replaced in selected side by Will Schofield
                            Sydney: Nil

                            FINAL INTERCHANGES
                            West Coast: Brad Sheppard, Chris Masten, Josh Hill, Jack Redden
                            Sydney: Harry Cunningham, Oliver Florent, Nic Newman, George Hewett

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                            • ugg
                              Can you feel it?
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15978

                              #29
                              Originally posted by rb4x
                              I see Darling is out for WC and Schofield now in.
                              McGovern to go forward then
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                              • Wazza
                                Regular in the Side
                                • May 2004
                                • 805

                                #30
                                Ive never done this before WC by 40+
                                There done it.

                                Cheers

                                waz

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