Father/Son Vs Academy Choices

[Boddo]

The substance of the argument doesn't matter in the media. David King has managed to make himself the story. So he's succeeded in doing his job. Now other media outlets are writing stories about what King said, and other pundits are giving their opinions. It's not that much different to the Trump effect. Everyone is tuned in and waiting for his next idiotic remark. Ratings are shooting through the roof.

There are a lot of footy shows all pretty much talking about the same thing. They are all looking for a way to attract the most eyeballs.

Disagree. It's Put out there by King to get the ball rolling on Norf getting hold of Scott & Blakey. It's the start of a long long campaign that will stretch into next year and ramp up significantly at the beginning of next year. It's exactly the mo that Eddie used previously against the northern clubs. Start out with a few complaints then build it then the outrage. Everyone saw it with the Brisbane retention allowance, the northern academies, COLA n finally the changes to GWS academy earlier in the year.

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Disagree. It's Put out there by King to get the ball rolling on Norf getting hold of Scott & Blakey. It's the start of a long long campaign that will stretch into next year and ramp up significantly at the beginning of next year. It's exactly the mo that Eddie used previously against the northern clubs. Start out with a few complaints then build it then the outrage. Everyone saw it with the Brisbane retention allowance, the northern academies, COLA n finally the changes to GWS academy earlier in the year.

Yep. Your right. A few mummurs, a bit of a complaint, some howls, protests, demonstrations and finally revolution. We will be screwed some way as we are viewed as the "Bondi Billionaires" club.

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[Mark26]

It's a fascinating scenario that Blakey has found himself embroiled in: eligible as a f/s and an academy player. Surely common sense would prevail and the decision would be his. Surely? Let's hope all the grubs in the media keep allow Blakey this perogative. But we know they won't.

[Ludwig]

David King can say all he wants. If I hear Papa John saying he wants his son to go to Norf, then I'd be worried.

It's always been up to the player as to where he wants to go. Nick has 4 choices, the Academy, NM, BL and the open draft. I can't see that changing.

[Nico]

I honestly never once thought he was a visionary. He is a presenter now, never lasted in the coaching ranks. A true visionary would not survive in his type of environment as they would get identified early and weeded out. I honestly think it's a boys club with a few that sit on the edge but never go over. Brown did very well In this situation. He was very controlled and balanced it out but if he wanted to he could have totally embarrassed King.

I heard that King didn't last in the coaching ranks because he had poor interpersonal relationship skills.

[Boddo]

David King can say all he wants. If I hear Papa John saying he wants his son to go to Norf, then I'd be worried.

It's always been up to the player as to where he wants to go. Nick has 4 choices, the Academy, NM, BL and the open draft. I can't see that changing.

David King is setting the agenda on behalf of Norf n the others will start to chip in as the days n months go by. ATM he has four choices. It can change n change easily. Ask Brander & Spargo how nothing changes. And up until the GWS changes Spargo was this star in the making who'll go top 5. Then after the changes he's starting to slip down the draft. It's what the Melbourne clubs do well. They set the agenda in the media and then slowly build it up until you get "unless there is changes there's gona be dier consequences" "the fabric of the game will be destroyed" garbage n then the AFL take notice then the change happens. It happens and happens regularly like this. Sadly as much as we have a commission it's still run like the old VFL days of a committee of delegates n lobbying.

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I heard that King didn't last in the coaching ranks because he had poor interpersonal relationship skills.

Absolutely useless assistant. Gets portrayed as this guru but it's as laughable as Terry Wallace the list manager. Interpersonal relationships lmao

[Ludwig]

David King is setting the agenda on behalf of Norf n the others will start to chip in as the days n months go by. ATM he has four choices. It can change n change easily. Ask Brander & Spargo how nothing changes. And up until the GWS changes Spargo was this star in the making who'll go top 5. Then after the changes he's starting to slip down the draft.

I know we feel that a lot of things have not gone our way with AFL ruling, and I agree that especially with Mike Fitzpatrick and the influence of Eddie McGuire we got shafted on a few occasions in recent years. But to extrapolate this to a formal plot where ratings crazed commentators are setting the agenda for rule changes is getting a bit paranoid.

The GWS Riverina zone was taken from them with good cause. No one can argue that GWS were already strong enough and didn't need a zone that produced several top draft picks a year. I don't know how that effects how pundits rate Charlie Spargo. And how he is rated doesn't change where he will be picked in the draft. He hasn't slipped anywhere, only the perception of where he might go in the draft has changed.

[barracuda]

I know we feel that a lot of things have not gone our way with AFL ruling, and I agree that especially with Mike Fitzpatrick and the influence of Eddie McGuire we got shafted on a few occasions in recent years. But to extrapolate this to a formal plot where ratings crazed commentators are setting the agenda for rule changes is getting a bit paranoid.

The GWS Riverina zone was taken from them with good cause. No one can argue that GWS were already strong enough and didn't need a zone that produced several top draft picks a year. I don't know how that effects how pundits rate Charlie Spargo. And how he is rated doesn't change where he will be picked in the draft. He hasn't slipped anywhere, only the perception of where he might go in the draft has changed.

I also think the current Div 2 championships may have a bearing. Spargo has been very good, but is small, and has not quite dominated to warrant such a high draft position.

[aardvark]

Its also very possible Charlie is trying to position himself somewhere around the Bulldogs first pick.

[crackedactor]

David King can say all he wants. If I hear Papa John saying he wants his son to go to Norf, then I'd be worried.

It's always been up to the player as to where he wants to go. Nick has 4 choices, the Academy, NM, BL and the open draft. I can't see that changing.

Gee I am hoping Papa John said stay where you are and don't head down to Norf. Spoke to someone who is a good judge and told me that Nick is a real serious talent!!

[Boddo]

I know we feel that a lot of things have not gone our way with AFL ruling, and I agree that especially with Mike Fitzpatrick and the influence of Eddie McGuire we got shafted on a few occasions in recent years. But to extrapolate this to a formal plot where ratings crazed commentators are setting the agenda for rule changes is getting a bit paranoid.

The GWS Riverina zone was taken from them with good cause. No one can argue that GWS were already strong enough and didn't need a zone that produced several top draft picks a year. I don't know how that effects how pundits rate Charlie Spargo. And how he is rated doesn't change where he will be picked in the draft. He hasn't slipped anywhere, only the perception of where he might go in the draft has changed.

In regards to Spargo most phantom drafts have moved him from a top pick to down the order. Before GWS had started their academy there it had produced nowhere near what it produced now. Those players weren't there until GWS started putting in a constructive pathway for the area. Now it's gone watch it go back to what it used to be apart from an indigenous or multicultural players as they have access now like the NGA academies. In regards to the AFL it's not just us in regards to agendas it's a lot of things. Dismantling of Brisbanes retention allowance, the equalisation committee which consisted of the 2 richest clubs from Melbourne n the token poor club, the setting up of NGA's in regards to who is eligible, the rediculous situation of the northern clubs not being able to take 2 players from their academy in the top 20 if finishing top four but not In regards to NGA's, just coincidentally no changes in regards to points bidding until after Collingwood got their F/S. All these things n more start through the media. Seriously you can't see that clubs set their campaigns through the media? You only have to listen to crap that spews from the Melbourne media to realise this. I lived there for a while n it's exactly what Melbourne clubs do.

[Boddo]

I'll also add Norf have a massive amount to gain if changes happen. They could possibly gain Kelly through the trade then top end talent in next years draft in Nick Blakey, Joel Crocker, Tarryn Thomas & Baily Scott. The first 3 atm are rated possible top 10, it's hard to judge with Scott as I've not seen a lot of him. Of course they will push their agenda to the end they have a massive amount to gain. There's your rebuild in 2 years.

[barracuda]

In regards to Spargo most phantom drafts have moved him from a top pick to down the order. Before GWS had started their academy there it had produced nowhere near what it produced now. Those players weren't there until GWS started putting in a constructive pathway for the area. Now it's gone watch it go back to what it used to be apart from an indigenous or multicultural players as they have access now like the NGA academies. In regards to the AFL it's not just us in regards to agendas it's a lot of things. Dismantling of Brisbanes retention allowance, the equalisation committee which consisted of the 2 richest clubs from Melbourne n the token poor club, the setting up of NGA's in regards to who is eligible, the rediculous situation of the northern clubs not being able to take 2 players from their academy in the top 20 if finishing top four but not In regards to NGA's, just coincidentally no changes in regards to points bidding until after Collingwood got their F/S. All these things n more start through the media. Seriously you can't see that clubs set their campaigns through the media? You only have to listen to crap that spews from the Melbourne media to realise this. I lived there for a while n it's exactly what Melbourne clubs do.

Where are the phantom drafts?

[Boddo]

Where are the phantom drafts?

ESPN, afl draft hub, BigFooty etc there are plenty around if you look.

[Ludwig]

I really like Charlie Spargo. I see him as a very quick and agile small defender that can stay with those dangerous small forwards like Betts and Rioli. On the rebound, he can really break the lines. I still think he's in top 10 consideration.