Changes for R8 v North

[swansrob]

Our backline still leaked a lot of goals for the relatively small number of inside 50's our midfield gave up. Expect some changes back there.
I dont know how long we can carry McVeigh's "leadership" which doesnt translate into stats.

He's played one game so far and it was our first win. I'm not sure we can say we're "carrying" him at this stage

[Mark26]

Our backline still leaked a lot of goals for the relatively small number of inside 50's our midfield gave up. Expect some changes back there.
I dont know how long we can carry McVeigh's "leadership" which doesnt translate into stats.

Our backline has been leaking a lot of goals in the first six weeks without McVeigh. I actually think he played well. He played up in the mids too at different times. Maybe we are watching different games?

[RogueSwan]

Our backline has been leaking a lot of goals in the first six weeks without McVeigh. I actually think he played well. He played up in the mids too at different times. Maybe we are watching different games?

Having Macca back in the side seemed to coincide with the backs looking less frantic and more balanced. Sure Macca is getting old, for a footballer, but his still seems to have a quick footy brain and more time than the average footballer to make a decision around a contest. Kinda like Heeney seems to able just move in and around a contest with a lot more ease than most, like the game is moving slower for him.

[Ludwig]

The ball spent way too much time in our defensive 50 last year. We had a difficult time getting the ball out of there, but these problems were painted over by great defensive play by the likes of Reg, Smooch and Rampe, including their ability to rush a behind and restart the process again with another kick in. We were able to absorb a lot of pressure without leaking that many goals.

The change of rules involving rushed behinds and deliberate OOB has reduced our ability to kill the ball when under high pressure. The loss of Rampe and targeting Mills as a defensive weakness is also hurting.

I think there has been a recognition of this problem evidenced by some changes in the backline. Marsh has replaced Laidler, offering more speed and rebound. Melican was introduced, again to add speed as well as kicking prowess. Zak Jones is providing more run and carry. Macca doesn't offer much in the way of pace, but if he can hit the kick in accurately and consistently, it helps to get us out of the danger zone.

I think we will need to bring back Newman and Aliir to complete this stage of the transition to a more versatile and dynamic defence. Reg will sadly need to drop out, despite being a very solid defender. He can't cover the increasing mobility of forwards and slows down the transition from defense to offense.

A lot also will depend on how well the rest of the side contribute to first getting the ball out of our defensive zone by offering more options from both our tall marking players and runners, and second by providing the next passage of play moving the ball to our scoring half of the ground. This is what the good teams are doing now and why they are winning. We just can't be kicking to a contest near the boundary over and over again. We saw better movement against Brisbane, but they're a young inexperienced team. It will be a much greater test against a much more experienced defence this week.

[barry]

Having Macca back in the side seemed to coincide with the backs looking less frantic and more balanced. Sure Macca is getting old, for a footballer, but his still seems to have a quick footy brain and more time than the average footballer to make a decision around a contest. Kinda like Heeney seems to able just move in and around a contest with a lot more ease than most, like the game is moving slower for him.

Lets not be silly about this. He was Sydney's 17th best player by stats, and I recall at least one clanger that led to a Brisbane goal.

I would saying Brisbane seemed to coincide with the backs looking less frantic and more balanced. Really, Brisbane put in a very poor display of pressure, and that Eric Skipwood (sp?) bloke shoudnt be getting games in teh NEAFL, let alone the AFL if last Sunday was a guide.

No doubt Horse has a higher opinion of McVeigh than I do, so if he's prepared to play him straight in the seniors after injury, then I'm sure he will keep his spot for the next few weeks regardless of his stats. He'll cost us a game or two like he did last year, but probably doesnt matter to much this year.

[RogueSwan]

Lets not be silly about this. He was Sydney's 17th best player by stats, ...

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Sorry, couldn't help myself.

[ugg]

Which stat is that barry? I hope you're not using disposals.

Both SuperCoach and AFLPlayerRating had him 13th best Swan, which isn't bad for first game back and limited game time.

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[0918330512]

No doubt Horse has a higher opinion of McVeigh than I do, so if he's prepared to play him straight in the seniors after injury, then I'm sure he will keep his spot for the next few weeks regardless of his stats. He'll cost us a game or two like he did last year, but probably doesnt matter to much this year.

EVERYONE has a higher opinion of McVeigh than you do!!!!

[sprite]

Our backline still leaked a lot of goals for the relatively small number of inside 50's our midfield gave up. Expect some changes back there.
I dont know how long we can carry McVeigh's "leadership" which doesnt translate into stats.

Macca's stats from last week:
9 kicks
6 Handballs
15 disposals - effectiveness 93.3% ( best on the ground)
3 Contested possessions
0 clangers
4 marks
1 Tackle
Time On Ground 68%

Leadership - provides guidance to younger players that has been missing.

Why don't you give it a rest. It is rather boring

[Markwebbos]

Let's see how Macca goes against North

[swansrob]

Our backline still leaked a lot of goals for the relatively small number of inside 50's our midfield gave up. Expect some changes back there.
I dont know how long we can carry McVeigh's "leadership" which doesnt translate into stats.

25% of Brisbane's inside 50's resulted in a goal. Only Rd 4 v WCE (24%) and Rd 3 v Coll (19%) are lower.

[Plugger1300]

Lets not be silly about this. He was Sydney's 17th best player by stats, and I recall at least one clanger that led to a Brisbane goal.

I would saying Brisbane seemed to coincide with the backs looking less frantic and more balanced. Really, Brisbane put in a very poor display of pressure, and that Eric Skipwood (sp?) bloke shoudnt be getting games in teh NEAFL, let alone the AFL if last Sunday was a guide.

Poor old Barry is having a Barry
McVeigh was more than satisfactory in his comeback game
If your judgement of Eric Hipwood is any guide than maybe you should leave team selection to the professionals

[barry]

Macca's stats from last week:
9 kicks
6 Handballs
15 disposals - effectiveness 93.3% ( best on the ground)
3 Contested possessions
0 clangers
4 marks
1 Tackle
Time On Ground 68%

Leadership - provides guidance to younger players that has been missing.

Why don't you give it a rest. It is rather boring

I stand corrected, he was actually 18th ranked swan for the game, just pipping Will Haywood, and equal number of AF points as well known Brisbane gun Jarrod Berry. However, on the positive side, if he played for Brisbane he would have been equal 16th ranked player for them!
Which, hard as this is to believe, there were 15 brisbane players more effective than him!

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/7/syd-v-bl

Let see how he goes against some "real" opposition.

[CureTheSane]

I'm happy to lay in to McVeigh when he isn't performing.
Not personal at all, I'd do the same for any Swan.
In the past I've been a critic, and may well be again, but i saw good reason for bringing him back, and I thought that he did what was required.
As others have said, not too bad for a first game back.
He made less stupid errors than usual, and brought some much needed leadership and kicking skills.

[ugg]

I stand corrected, he was actually 18th ranked swan for the game, just pipping Will Haywood, and equal number of AF points as well known Brisbane gun Jarrod Berry. However, on the positive side, if he played for Brisbane he would have been equal 16th ranked player for them!
Which, hard as this is to believe, there were 15 brisbane players more effective than him!

Sydney Swans Vs Brisbane Lions - Match Centre - AFL.com.au

Let see how he goes against some "real" opposition.

Fantasy Points aka Dream Team points do not equate to effectiveness.