Match Day Rnd 8. North Melbourne V Sydney. 16.40 pm. Etihad Stadium.

[Danzar]

Mids are handling the effective disposals well enough. We're looking good, North clangers helped early in the second.

Who's doing the bulk of the niggling?? There's been a melee after both quarters.

[troyjones2525]

Some of the negative remarks on Newman are really dumb.

He was in 2 situations that resulted in goals:

1. He took a shoulder to the head and should have received a free kick. In any case, he should have rushed the ball for a behind.
2. He was simply outplayed by Hrovat who had the better position to mark the ball. Okay. He was outplayed, like that has never happened to any defender before.

He's not a dour 1 on 1 defender and tends to use a few tricks to win the ball, but he should be in the side as an offensive defender, something we really need.

Jake Lloyd, perhaps our best player this year and one of my favourites, deserves a lot more criticism. He made 2 errors that led to goals.

100% correct. Should we drop every defender who gets beaten 1 on 1 in a contest on an occasion. Wouldn't be many defenders left to choose from...

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[Cheer_Cheer]

Mids are handling the effective disposals well enough. We're looking good, North clangers helped early in the second.

Who's doing the bulk of the niggling?? There's been a melee after both quarters.

Jones :-)

[Danzar]

Jones :-)

He's a brawler, who's setting him off?

[Foreign Legion]

Wouldn't mind Buddy kicking a goal. 8 last week and a few chances this week. Might fire up in the last half.

[Mug Punter]

Maybe wing for Newman as link player.

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He's too slow IMO.

Rampe, Aliir, Rohan, Tippett and a fit Jack back into the 22 and we start to look a lot stronger but I like the fact we are getting so many games into the following players who with a bit of luck should get the following players over the 30 game mark by the end of this year - Alliir, Papley, Naismaith, Mills, Hewett and Marsh

[Billericay]

Stats say Heeney has only 2 tackles. Find that hard to believe. Also isn't holding a Swans players arm in a marking contest a free kick. They keep talking about how Heeney (and Reid) is going for a one hander - that's because a Norf player is holding onto the other arm

[Danzar]

Need to work on those set shots, across the board!


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[Heydon]

There have been fisticuffs, melees etc in every game Swans have played this year, except against Collingwood. The club psychologists/coaches etc think they have worked out that we are more easily beaten when monstered. That thinking began when we lost the Grand Final to Hawthorn, which was a very dirty game indeed. Yes, I am saying that it is a deliberate tactic.

We have demonstrated this year that we won,t put up with the bullying, the smacks in the head, punches in the guts, etc and are now retaliating. Not likely to be a Brownlow for any of us this year anyway.

Or maybe the AFL sent out an email saying more tough stuff for the television Ratings please.

[stevoswan]

Stats say Heeney has only 2 tackles. Find that hard to believe. Also isn't holding a Swans players arm in a marking contest a free kick. They keep talking about how Heeney (and Reid) is going for a one hander - that's because a Norf player is holding onto the other arm

Which is worse than the evil 'arm chop'!!

[Danzar]

Wouldn't mind Buddy kicking a goal. 8 last week and a few chances this week. Might fire up in the last half.

I hope Plugger isn't working with Buddy on his kicking too much. Don't fix what's not broken.


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[Billericay]

There have been fisticuffs, melees etc in every game Swans have played this year, except against Collingwood. The club psychologists/coaches etc think they have worked out that we are more easily beaten when monstered. That thinking began when we lost the Grand Final to Hawthorn, which was a very dirty game indeed. Yes, I am saying that it is a deliberate tactic.

We have demonstrated this year that we won,t put up with the bullying, the smacks in the head, punches in the guts, etc and are now retaliating. Not likely to be a Brownlow for any of us this year anyway.

Or maybe the AFL sent out an email saying more tough stuff for the television Ratings please.

I thought this changed noticeably after Carlton-gate and the undefended attacks on Mills

[Billericay]

This does look more like the Swans of old

[swansprincess]

All this Newman bashing is unfair. Yes he may not be the best defender one on one but what he offers us is good skills and a bit of creativity off of half back.

I hope Horse doesn't dent his confidence by berating him every time he makes a mistake! We need a player like him playing with confidence attacking from defense! We have enough dour defenders who struggle to make a 20 meter kick but it appears that many on here want his papers stamped already!

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Good skills and creativity do not make a quality AFL player. You need to be able to hold your own one on one anywhere on the ground and Newman doesn't seem to be able to do that. Granted, every player makes me mistakes, and I agree he would probably get better with consecutive games under his belt but as we have one win and are still mathematically a chance to make finals, I don't think we have the luxury to keep playing him in the 1's as a learning opportunity. And when Rampe and Rohan come back, he will be hard pressed to make a case for a spot then.

[Billericay]

Why are Swans playing 8 in defence including Sam Reid?